Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

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Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Sorry but the fact that Tobi knows Madara is the biggest wrench in your theory. The nore you try to look like a fool before the explanation is even out, the higher chance you actually are one.

And calling others in denial when you blatantly call the interview (with Kishi confirming Tobi and Madara's knowledge of each other) is quite funny.

Here's a tip for ya: It wasn't fake.
 

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Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Ok :

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Also I have a quote for you by Itachi:

"People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". But what does it mean to be "correct" or "true"? Merely vague concepts ... their "reality" may all be a mirage. Can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shaped by their beliefs?"
this quote goes for all of us.let`s just wait and see kishi`s explanations instead of arguing over our own versions and conceptions of reality.we are all in a mirage IMO :flaw:U_U
 

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Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

Kakashi's Kamui Is A Time/Space Technique, And, Who Has The Other Eye, And, Can Use It More Efficiently?? Obito, Which Means, He May Have Time/Space AbilitiesWeHaveNo Idea About, What If He Was Rescued, And, Restored, And, Trained For A Long Time, And Then, He Went Back In Time??
 

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Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

You're right. How can Obito be alive when he wasn't alive when Kakashi became the "Hero with the Sharingan" at Kannabi bridge. It just doesn't make sense.
I was confused with this at first too but Kannabi bridge was the mission where Obito gave his sharingan to Kakashi. The bridge is introduced in the Kakashi sidestory and manga Chapter 244 is called "Hero of the Sharingan."
 

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Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

This, Kishimoto even hints that, by hinting that Obito also wanted to become Hokage or anything of such high level throughout the chapter. Obito is a failed Naruto who becomes evil.
Agreed. People just see wha they want to see. The timeline doesnt fit, but then again kishi helps us out by showing that its sth he never pays attention to. For instance, madara calls nagato a brat but he shouldve been an infant when he got his rinnegan. Danzo was shown with a covered eye(shisuis) when oro was still with the village years before the uchiha massacre eve.
 

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Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Agreed. People just see wha they want to see. The timeline doesnt fit, but then again kishi helps us out by showing that its sth he never pays attention to. For instance, madara calls nagato a brat but he shouldve been an infant when he got his rinnegan. Danzo was shown with a covered eye(shisuis) when oro was still with the village years before the uchiha massacre eve.
So you're blaming us for Kishi's terrible writing? Should we dumb down ourselves to the level of all these 13 year old kids spamming "Tobi's hair looks like Obitoz and his name is Obito backwardz!!!" and stop being sensible and reasonable?

Our only mistake is that we gave Kishi a benefit of doubt. We should have treated him like an untalented, kindergarten level writer from the start and expected the worst from him.
 
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Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

How this, how that, how, how... Geez, there is too many theories, and all we can do right now is to fight among ourselves about who's right and who's not. Is it really so hard to just wait it to be revealed.
 

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Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

So you're blaming us for Kishi's terrible writing? Should we dumb down ourselves to the level of all these 13 year old kids spamming "Tobi's hair looks like Obitoz and his name is Obito backwardz!!!" and stop being sensible and reasonable?
No, you should recognize that this is a manga not a mystery novel. I admit that Obito being tobi is simplistic but about 70% of the target audience are kids. It had to be someone they would figure out.
 

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my guess

but @ Memoria your sig...
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what if Madara is Nagatos dad? wont this make everthin omgosh thats where he got the rinnegan... a mixture of Uchiha and uzumaki...Tobi as Madara said i gave him this eyes...maybe because madara is something like his father? This would be a great solution how to explain the timeline....
No lol he's not his father. I think he was shown during a flashback when Nagato awakened the Rinnegan. If I remember correctly, he had red hair, so he should be an Uzumaki.

Something I made for Obito haters:
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Good work on that and the one on the sig, really made me happy! (+rep)
 

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Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Read the first post again : Zetsu. They don't directly know each other.

The guy Madara has been referring to all this time, is Zetsu.
Dude Kabuto said to Madara "The fake Madara". Zetsu looks nothing like Madara he doesn't even look human. Also this chapter shows Minato's face on the mountain which says he is currently the 4th Hokage. We know for a fact he doesn't become the 4th until AFTER the 3rd Ninja war. Obito died during the war. Also the Tobi who fought Minato was the same Tobi that we see now.
 
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Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

That's what you morons said last week about Tobi being Obito and look who ended up being "false". You fail to understand this manga.
Lol, anyone could have guessed he was Obito. Do you think you know the manga better than those who didn't believe it's Obito? We were simply thinking outside the box, where you who believed it was Obito can't think further than what the manga throws in your face. It was simply much simpler than we thought, aka we overanalyzed something extremely simple.
Not being able to figure out Obito was 14 at the time of kyuubi invasion speaks for itself ^^
 
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Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

No, you should recognize that this is a manga not a mystery novel. I admit that Obito being tobi is simplistic but about 70% of the target audience are kids. It had to be someone they would figure out.
You consider that to be a valid excuse for all the plotholes and inconsistencies in the manga? Just because it's shounen manga doesn't mean he can shit on timeline and plot.
 
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