[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

[AnimeFan002]

Let me start off by saying just because the chap is named ‘Uchiha Obito’ and Kakashi asks at the end if it’s Obito, doesn’t mean it’s him. Kakashi is asking if it’s him, and the whole chap are flashbacks about Obito, therefore that’s why the chap is named Obito.

The only reason I can see Kishi trying to bullshit us in making it Obito (although there are way too many plotholes) is to add more significance to Sasuke and Naruto’s upcoming battle. Naruto will see what Madara or Oro did to a Uchiha (Obito), and think of Sasuke. Naruto will also see Kakashi’s will to kill his bestfriend, Obito, to protect his comrades. This will play an important role in the series, because Naruto will soon have to do the same. Kakashi will probably die in this heroic attempt enraging Naruto to come to a realization that his handful of current friends are worth more than an emo, egotisitical, bastard, bestfriend, Sasuke.


Since it is completely illogical for it to actually be Obito, I’m going to wait for Kishi’s explanation. I pray that the Izuna + Zetsu + Obito all in one vessel theory is true, because we all know Madara’s brother has to be a badass. On a another note, I wonder what Izuna’s Susano’o looked like. *scratches head* Probably cooler than Sasuke’s

To sum it all up, if it is Obito, whatever (his debut was awesome). If it’s Kagami, Izuna, Madara’s son, or the elder son of the So6p, even better. I just want my explanation.

It's not completely impossible for it to be obito, while I do agree with a lot of what you said though. This is the world of Naruto, anything is possible at this point.

For all we know Hidan is going to show back up unscratched.

 

[Kyno]

We can't jump to the conclusion still that just because his right eye is the normal Sharingan and the left eye is the Rinnegan makes him Obito. Last time I checked Tobi had both his eyes Sharingans when he fought Konan. And the only reason that makes sense for him having the Rinnegan is because it states that he used Izangi to avoid Konan's massive explosion.

I still don't get why a lot of you are jumping on the 'its Obito' wagon when we haven't gotten complete proof it's really him.

He has like hundreds sharingans, and knows how to do the surgery to place one in. He can always have a supply of them.

 

[B00m]

What the hell is wrong with this chapter? No dialog, and just a whole bunch of pointless Obito references. Now we need to put up with childish remarks like "TOLD YOU SO!$#@" and people make pointless post saying just that. Nothing has been said or explained, only his whole face had been shown. I really hope Kishi is clowning us.

Yes, I doubted it was Obito but never counted him out completely. I still do doubt it's Obito though because it doesn't add up. If Kishi makes it add up it will be a miracle if it isn't even a little BS. I mean I thought the way Orochimaru came back was bull shit but this is on another level.

Is this the climax of how crappy this manga/anime can get? I think so, unless he starts bringing back the Hokages, the sage, and even then that wouldn't be as bad, be more exciting than the main antagonist of Shippuden being a child.

Anyways, I give this chapter a 1/5 for the reason already stated.

My questions now:
Does Oro even know Tobi's identity? (Still calling him Tobi until further explained)
When is Zetsu going to come into play?
Was Tobi around when Madara died?
How long till Madara shows up to possibly explain everything?

Pointless questions:
Why did Kurama say "You!" when being controlled by Tobi? If it actually was Tobi?
Why would Madara leave his mission/legacy to a child?
How wouldn't the 4th not recognize his own F'ing student?

 

[Buzz Beamer4]

We can't jump to the conclusion still that just because his right eye is the normal Sharingan and the left eye is the Rinnegan makes him Obito. Last time I checked Tobi had both his eyes Sharingans when he fought Konan. And the only reason that makes sense for him having the Rinnegan is because it states that he used Izangi to avoid Konan's massive explosion.

I still don't get why a lot of you are jumping on the 'its Obito' wagon when we haven't gotten complete proof it's really him.

Same could have happened with the other sharingan... Or if the complete sharingan wasn't abstracted and the remaints reformed with the healing and training processes... Just saying; it waddles, it quacks, swims, flys, has a bill, webbed feet, it's a bird, and has beady eyes; It's a Duck! In same instance; it's Obito!:flaw:

 

[MapleStoryHero]

We know one thing for sure. We either have to say sorry for Tobi/Obito fans or Kishimoto is finally going to tell us the background of Tobi or both, really.:shrug:

 

[Atomsk]

Ive always wondered what happened to Rin and now hopefully some answers will arise as to what went on with her! im just as excited about that as anything else really.

 

[Nooby Kyuubi]

Ive always wondered what happened to Rin and now hopefully some answers will arise as to what went on with her! im just as excited about that as anything else really.

The man who's been the antagonist for years now is finally unmasked and you care about rin? :sy: maybe if rin has a significance in "obito's" change of heart.

 

[Balkimus]

makes more sense now to think why when sasuke first met Tobi/Obito his face looked like that of an old man. it also makes sense why when he fought with the fourth his arm seemed made from the white zetsu substance. everything falls into place now, somehow Obito was found by Madara and was regiven his smashed arm and face using the white zetsu. we also understand why he wants his moon eye plan to succeed, because he couldnt be with Rin and from what we know she died too.

best i have hear in an arguement for obito so far, makes perfect sense

 

[Ly1e]

My theory as to how Obito became Tobi

The way I see it is like this:

After giving Kakshi his Sharingan, Obito's grief awakened his Mangekyo seconds before being completely crushed by the ensuing landslide. He then unconsciously transported himself to the other dimension, no doubt as a defense mechanism. He then transported himself back out of the dimension somewhere near konoha, where Orochimaru found him.

Orochimaru noticed that Obito had the Mangekyo Sharingan, so he decided to save him. He brought him to one of his secret hideouts, where he unveiled one of his experiments: Zetsu. Orochimaru used zetsu to save Obito, afterwards helping Obito become accustomed to his new limbs, and learn how to further control his Mangekyo. Using Zetsu not only saved his life, but also increased his power exponentially due to the Senju DNA. I believe this caused his normal MS to act more like an EMS, allowing him to use (and abuse) his new optical ability to his hearts content.
(This would explain how in the span of a few short years Obito went from being a normal Genin, to being able to go toe to toe with the 4th Hokage.)

Orochimaru's initial motive to help Obito was the same as with Sasuke, to take his body after training him a bit. He did not foresee, however, that Obito's MS tech would make him almost completely untouchable. Orochimaru saw this, and decided to just have Zetsu keep an eye on Obito, and manipulate him from the shadows.
Then, after hearing of Rin's death: Obito lost it, and began devising his "Moon's Eye Plan", and how he would gather all of the tailed beasts.

I found this extremely interesting. Would explain the white goo that comes from his lost limbs, and the growth. I'm gonna' have to go with could be a chance it's actually Obito, more of a chance there are different Tobi's, and good chance it's Izuna using Obito's body.

I gave Obito the least, because during the fight w/ Minato, Tobi should have known that when Minato threw the kunai, he would teleport behind it. Obito would have known about Minato's FTGJ and thus would have been better prepared to go against it (If Obito is Tobi). Also there are many plot holes (which I guess could be filled, but would seem like a lot of trouble). The hypothesis above me does a good job of arguing for it to be Obito though.

Different Tobi's would explain the knowledge plot hole/age/ability to fight on par with Minato (Although the fight wasn't spectacular in any way, anyone with S/T nin of the calibur could fght on par w/ Minato) ability to control the fox, etc...

Izuna would cover ALMOST everything. Hypothesis: He's been swapping Uchiha bodies. The Uchiha from Hiruzens team that went missing or whatever could have been the body used to fight Minato/attack Konoha. Then he could have switched to Obito's body and re-transplanted his eyes. Izuna needed a new Sharingan and the Mangekyou is hard to come across. Thus he took Obito's eyes when Obito died, with the unknown Uchiha's body. Then swapped to Obitos body.

I got lazy whilst typing, so it seems a bit sloppy but whatever.

 

[MapleStoryHero]

He has like hundreds sharingans, and knows how to do the surgery to place one in. He can always have a supply of them.

You are right, but nobody seems to have remember that fact...U_U

 

[Raigah]

wtf ppl? why ur losing ur mind?? cool it, this is just too simple, nobody knows for sure what is Obito's body doing there. You can be very sure that's obito's body, but you can also be sure obito's not controlling that body, because tobi is too good to be the real obito himself. I say Obito's body is being controlled by somebody else or it is possesed by another soul. Because with all that knowledge, power and abilities Tobi has, there's no way that he could be the very Obito himself. So people, just wait 7 more days and we will know the truth behind this blasphemy!!!!

 

[S1N3RST4 N1NJ4]

Obito must be like Yahiko, just a puppet.

 

[Buzz Beamer4]

You all do realized that the birt of Naruto happend almost 10 years after the fact? Enough time @ least 4 Iruka 2 grow up and be about a teenager from a baby @ the time of Obito's supposed death... Kakashi is about 35-40 y.o. and that would make him @least 19 and up 2 25 years old @ the time of the battle between masked man nd Minato... Obito bieng about the same age and probably more, (from a previous Kamui moves faster time wise theory) wouldn't that make more sense? Also what if Obito thought of Minato being his best-friend? He certianly did try 2 effe him up good didn't he? Point is... Let's just wait 4 Obito's backstory... Wish it came out friday instead of next week...

 

[Uzumaki Siby]

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I knew it I knew it I knew it I knew it!

what

 

[cryhwks]

There are a lot of ways this can still go Obito could be just Tobi & there's nothing else to it but there could still be more to it then that. I still think a Zetsu will play a major role in this.

I think that Madara was the one who fought with the 4th & he had Obito's Sharingan & after Madara died Obito got it back that would explain we he can't turn it off. & also this Obito/Tobi has never shown that he can control a Bijuu with his Sharingan he had to use those chains to control them.

& the people complaining saying Obito was buried underneath all those rocks but maybe that was Madara making Rin & Kakashi see that with a Genjutsu & Obito was really only hit with the rocks that crushed his right side.

& all the people saying this don't make sense there's plot holes. How about let Kishi explain Obito/Tobi story you all know what explaining is right? It's something that happens after things are revealed so how about give Kishi a few chapters to explain this before you say it don't make sense.

 

[Kyno]

You all do realized that the birt of Naruto happend almost 10 years after the fact? Enough time @ least 4 Iruka 2 grow up and be about a teenager from a baby @ the time of Obito's supposed death... Kakashi is about 35-40 y.o. and that would make him @least 19 and up 2 25 years old @ the time of the battle between masked man nd Minato... Obito bieng about the same age and probably more, (from a previous Kamui moves faster time wise theory) wouldn't that make more sense? Also what if Obito thought of Minato being his best-friend? He certianly did try 2 effe him up good didn't he? Point is... Let's just wait 4 Obito's backstory... Wish it came out friday instead of next week...

Your ages are wrong. At the time of the fight the natural age of obito and kakashi is 16

 

[Uzumaki Siby]

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heh no one can really confirm yet without the reasons he is Tobi

:ice:That right

 

[Camanthra]

Alright, I have been on this sight for about 100 chapters as a guest and finally decided it was time...I have a theory that no one has posted yet.
The "Old man" that Obito ran into on the way to the mission was 1 of 2 people(who I can't figure out which yet.) Either Madara or...Izuna.
Both of whom could have given the Rinnegon to Pain. It would be easy enough for Izuna to take someone else's eyes-Possibly Madaras old ones. Maybe they just Swapped eys.(sorry about off topic but this is important for my theory.) Obviously Madara achieved Rinnegon after his fight with 1st hokage, so it is possible he learned how to achieve it and got Izuna Rinnegon. 1 of the two gives them to Pain, the that one comes across Obito. Using the powers of Zetsu, who it shows in the manga that Tobi obviously has them as well, manipulates his body to look like an older versian of Obito(Dead) and takes his last eye, which miracurasly survived the rocks. This could explain the EMS that Tobi has and the Rinnegon he "took back". this all points to my theory that Tobi is Izuna with a Zetsu manipulated body of Tobi.
With Senju DNA, he could live alot longer than others explaining how he is still alive. A previous theory on this forum stated that he wore the mask so he could change his face when needed and i agree with that. the chapter where Tobi takes off his mask to Kisame is good proof because kisame calls him Madara, not Obito(Plus i dont think Obitos face looks much like Madaras), but he cant be madara because Madara is dead. And It could also be stated that being Madaras brother, Izuna also has the ability to control Kyubii. Oh and don't you think that Kabuto would also try to take control of Izuna as well as Madara, so where is he? My theory is Izuna with Zetsu ability

And before I start getting Bashed, this is just a theory and i would love it either being Obito or Izuna. Alot of the people waiting for kakashis struggle with fighting Obito, even if it isn't fighting a look-a-like will be just as difficult. Please remember that with the Naruto Series, just about anything is possible. Oh and I don't believe it said in the manga that Izuna died, or how, but if it did could someone please refer me to chapter and page?

 

[PUNK]

ummmm i m still in after shock ......cant figure out what my brains waves are trying to tell me to write or say

 

[Uzumaki Siby]

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Cetainly seems to be Obito. I'm anxious to find out why he turned to the dark side.....I'm just happy to finally see behind the mask regardless of who it is!

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Well i do believe that people make people change.
Just like how Susuke changed