kyubikiran
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that is something i want kishi to tell us or may be gaara can use the sand just like third kazakage
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that is something i want kishi to tell us or may be gaara can use the sand just like third kazakage
Yes he can (remember his handshake with Naruto), but he's not coming to Konoha because he's the Kazekage. He has a duty to protect his village above all other matters. This makes me wonder how the Kage meeting works. Do they all promise not to attack each other while meeting? Madara will stick to that I'm sure.
From what we know about Bijuu and Jinkuri I see no reasn why Garaa cannot use sand anymore. The Bijuu only gives you an extra chakra pool to draw upon, not certain techniques.
With that being said I do doubt that Garaa will be able to command as much sand as he once did, but Im sure he can still command at least the gourd full he always carries.
Speaking of Garaa, anyone care to guess his secondary element? Obviously his primary is earth. Id be willing to bet that his secondary is probarbly Kaze or Katon. ( Wind or Fire )
Im only guessing he has a secondary because hs surpassed Jonin level by becoming Kazekage and Kakashi himself told us even a Jonin is usually proficient with two elements.
Which brings me to another point, to those saying Naruto is at least Jonin level, I don't think so. He needs another element. If he comes across a Katon user he's screwed, Yamato himself said Katon would beat wind.
Don't get me wrong, his jutsu right now is probarbly S-Jonin or Kage level, probarbly even considered forbidden, however, he needs another element.
That being said, Im sorry to say this, but logic points out that Sauske is AT LEAST Jonin level.
With that being said I do doubt that Garaa will be able to command as much sand as he once did, but Im sure he can still command at least the gourd full he always carries.
Speaking of Garaa, anyone care to guess his secondary element? Obviously his primary is earth. Id be willing to bet that his secondary is probarbly Kaze or Katon. ( Wind or Fire )
Im only guessing he has a secondary because hs surpassed Jonin level by becoming Kazekage and Kakashi himself told us even a Jonin is usually proficient with two elements.
Which brings me to another point, to those saying Naruto is at least Jonin level, I don't think so. He needs another element. If he comes across a Katon user he's screwed, Yamato himself said Katon would beat wind.
Don't get me wrong, his jutsu right now is probarbly S-Jonin or Kage level, probarbly even considered forbidden, however, he needs another element.
That being said, Im sorry to say this, but logic points out that Sauske is AT LEAST Jonin level.
Yes Gara can use sands, however Naruto could probobly be considered a Jounin. Two elements aren't nessicary to become one, it's just that most can use two by this time. And I agree Naruto could use another element. Fire+Naruto= XO
Isnt wind element called Futon and not kaze? please correct me if im wrong...
Jonin level doest require you to have 2 elements, who the hell knows which elements neji has and he is jonin by now, besides of that fact, naruto might have a fight with some1 with katon but even with that he can overcome that fact, in kakashi's words, a ninja is able to see trough the deception which means he's able to se trough the enemy's jutsu and overcome it. another thing i want to make note is that naruto's wind rasenshuriken is a BEYOND S-RANK technique, and even with that kind of technique we all know that he can be defeated with anything unexpected at any time, even a guy like gai sensei could come and beat naruto's ass depending on the circunstances, besides the technique naruto has doesnt imply that is kage level, kage is just a title not a level, just like the jonin thingy, they might be jonin with techniques that are basically B-ranked techniques, just take for example shikamaru. The title resides on your proficiency to think in batle and use your abilities to overcome the hardships you encounter or face again the kakashi thingy. Sasuke beated orochimaru (yea i kno he was sick and all the bullshit you want to say but orochimaro did survived the batle against the third and that puts him on the third's level or around there) sasgay is above jonin level just like naruto or the third was so...
In the end it all depends on how you use your techniques, not the kind of them, if you are a true ninja then no mater what you can win in any case even if you are only a genin
Bingo. That a ninja is judged by the number of their jutsu is Orochimaru's argument, while Jiraiya felt that a ninja's guts and determination were the judge of a true ninja. Naruto has that in spades (Jiraiya's words?).
How do you measure having sage mode versus an element? Sage mode is far superior to having a second element. How do you measure having a kekkei genkei against an element? Kimimaro was awesome despite that he was dying, but I didn't see him use a single element.
There are no strict rules as to what makes a ninja a certain level other than their wisdom, wits, care, and fighting ability.
The only jounin I can think of that could fight him from Konoha is Kakashi, but even he would lose. Naruto among a few other shinobi transcends rank (Sasuke, Madara, Pein, Killerbee, ...).
I know some try to spur discussion, but always speak what you feel is logical or your truth, not something just to make people argue. There is plenty of intrinsic material for that. Katsu!
I agree with everything you say except that Sasuke was at third's level. That is something we simply do not know. Not to forget according to Naruto verse Sasuke is lacking the most important thing for now- Will of fire.
The third crippled Orochimaru. Orochimaru was quite healthy and could use his full strength against The third. Sasuke couldn't beat him fully, despite his worsenned health. If Itachi hadn't stepped in with trapping Oro in that sword, Sasuke just managed to survive for the time being and was always in danger of being overtaken sooner or later.
Other than that I agree that Sasuke is above Jounin level. but as we have seen in chunin or jounin titles, strength and stamina are not everything. Shikamaru is the best example for that. Naruto can become a Hokage and still be unable to clear for a Jounin. Who knows.
The next manga is in color, so what is it that's going to demand visual effects?
I still think Naruto could put out a defensive jutsu. He has to be able to do something against Pein's attacks besides shadow clones since he's out there himself. So far he's defended himself from only Animal realm along with the toads. God realm is going to bring the pain. We've only seen offense from Naruto ever, except for substitution and tricks. Tricks/deception is fine to a certain extent, but at some point I believe it's insufficient.
I think one has to look at the last to major battles between Jiraiya and Pein, and Sasuke versus Itachi. All these ninja had some form of defense.
What I think is most likely is a combination jutsu with the toads. Wind, oil, and fire were used by Jiraiya against Pein, and these are available to Naruto. Gamabunta has used water. I definitely think this is what we'll see. One thing at least.
I still think Naruto could put out a defensive jutsu. He has to be able to do something against Pein's attacks besides shadow clones since he's out there himself. So far he's defended himself from only Animal realm along with the toads. God realm is going to bring the pain. We've only seen offense from Naruto ever, except for substitution and tricks. Tricks/deception is fine to a certain extent, but at some point I believe it's insufficient.
I think one has to look at the last to major battles between Jiraiya and Pein, and Sasuke versus Itachi. All these ninja had some form of defense.
What I think is most likely is a combination jutsu with the toads. Wind, oil, and fire were used by Jiraiya against Pein, and these are available to Naruto. Gamabunta has used water. I definitely think this is what we'll see. One thing at least.
9tailsSage
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maybe kisame and itachi were actually friends not just partners to capture jinchuriki. and he knew of itachi's plan and maybe the bid role kishi said kisame will have will be him joining naruto or sasuke against madara. maybe kisame was asked by itachi to keep track or care of sasuke.
also about naruto only leaving 2 clones it was probably because leaving more would cut his sage chakra more the by 3 or he did not have enough time to prepare more.
Yes. Even Orochimary had a defensive technique. He used in his battle with four talied Naruto.
Jiraiya could use oil effectively because he could produce some fire , I think. In his battle against Gara , Gamabunta had to give him his cigar for introducing fire to his oil... but I may not remember it correctly.
Anyway. I hope Naruto learns Yellow flash. i think it was called yellow flash because the fourth reached enemies in a nano seconf and suddenly his mop of yellow hair flashed in their eyes. So If he had pink hair it would be pink flash...
Ok. in I'm rambling and making no sense.... eagerly waiting for the next issue.
Yes, having more clones would cut his chakra and he would have needed that for fighting pain.
And yes, Itachi and Kisame looked much more at ease with each other than the rest of Akatsuki partners we have seen. They were a strong team and acted in sync.
If Kisame is to take care of Sasuke, that means he'll need to turn on Madara at some point. I assume that Sasuke won't just murder Madara like he did Orochimaru.
When Naruto makes two shadow clones, his chakra is divided by 3. This means balance wise that the amount of nature chakra carried by one body is reduced as well. There is likely an optimum number of clones to make in order to max out sage mode. At the extremes are 1 shadow clone, which Naruto has already used. That's no good. If he made 100, then he would have to constantly reverse summon the shadow clone, which Pein wouldn't allow. Thus, two may be optimal.
Damn it's hard to make predictions this week.
Narut0h0lic
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im looking foward to see the end of this invasion, cause im really hoping that kishi will turn his eyes into minato's past and tells more about him and the ones close to him
kyubikiran
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i would agree with everyone who is thinking this fight is taking too long, even though its really a good fight and i wanna see more of naruto's growth the intresting manga would be when everyone in konoha talks about naruto especially the one who think he is a demon fox
Itachi and Kizame are friends. I can't wait to see the next manga ^^ it will be naruto using some kind of 4th jutsu's , because it's colored then it's important 
is what i think it is isn't colored to see naruto get his ass kicked but to see he kick pain ass, and he runs away to recover... a guess ^^
is what i think it is isn't colored to see naruto get his ass kicked but to see he kick pain ass, and he runs away to recover... a guess ^^- Status