iMicLykTyson
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Lmao some who has a speed of 3 can keep up with A ?
Genjutsu is not shinra tensei
Yet you listed nothing that could harm itachi
Tsunade>3 tomoe itachi correct?
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Genjutsu is not shinra tensei
Yet you listed nothing that could harm itachi
iMicLykTyson
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I think there is the crux. If she would be able to destroy his first Gen-Jutsu (which would probably not be a super strong one (beginning a fight with full power is boring^^)) she could have time. Maybe Tsunade wouldn't be alone or able to destroy the gen-jutsu (maybe she is able to open some of the gates?)
Tsunade isn't given enough credit at all. She'd win mid to high difficultly no doubt but then again you're placing a fight between an adult and a teenager isn't exactly fair. She's a Sannin, the reason they have a lot of respect is because of there clobaration with there summonings. And most idiots on the base thinks itachi defeated Oro in that one fight probably thinks naruto defeated pain, Oro wasn't trying to kill him retards he was after his body. I'm sure if Oro wanted him dead Edo Tensi and Manda summons could have handled him alone Oro could have sit back and watched the whole thing.
you are forgetting something tsunade has a speed of 3 yes but she is a lightning user in other words she can use the lightning element to amplify her speed and that can cause trouble to itachi. she has a huge chackra reserves so their is no doubt she cant create few byakugou clones to distract and defeat itachi with a punch. she is too much for a 3 tomoe itachi and you know it. LIKE NARUTO WHO IS AN UZUMAKI AND CAN CREATE HUNDREDS OF CLONES TSUNADE CAN DO THE SAME THING TOO SHE'S BOTH SENJU AND UZUMAKI. whether if its shadow clones or byakugou clones yes can do it; because of her high energy. furthermore for those who are saying itachi can simply put her slug in a genjutsu, your wrong again that slug can split up a thousand times relay information spit acid and like how katsuyu was able to absorb tsunade's chackra their is absolutely no doubt, that tsunade cant use her to absorb people chackra. you all need to think before you write. as i said before in my opinion either their equal or she's stronger because as a itachi fanboy this woman was capable of destroying susanoo that was suppose to be classified as the uchiha strongest defense. give her credits a 3t itachi definitely doesn't stand a chance
Wrong. Creation Rebirth came before Byakugou. If she used Byakugou every since the beginning, what makes you think that she wouldn't use Creation rebirth?
A head-cut, no, but I already explained previously about this far-fetched hypothesis. Katsuyu can surround her and there, no cut. How will you cut a 2 tons (maybe) slug about God knows how many meters high?
I already explained about the speed feats, genjutsu comparison with Orochimaru and so. You're all forgetting that Orochimaru praised her medic-nin abilities. I never made her immune to genjutsu, I stated how she could possibly get out.
he didn't studied only the Uchihas, he studied other things as well. How will you explain me that she healed Tsukyomi in no instance?
Once again I explained the whole head-stuff and you're making it sound like it's so easy to cut her head.
Why is it a different thing? The damage done is the same. Brain functions the same way for everyone.
How does Itachi look in the eyes a 30 feet animal? How will he manage to look at 100 katsuyus at once?
Her skin resistance is shown in the heavenly transfer technique done by Mabui. Even though Raikage worried about her resisting the tecnique, she got out of it with almost no damage while she sould've been shred to pieces.
Well, Susanoo hasn't beheaded her. That's the scenario.
You read only that you wanted. It's wirtten there mid TO DIFFICULT. Medium without genjutsu, difficult granted by genjutsu. Fanboys can be called those who bring un-fonded arguments in a lenght of no signe phrase.
True, Tsunade stated that, but that's like comparing a 20 something Tsunade with a non-even born Itachi.
As I see now he focused more on the same type of techniques as Orochimaru rather than concentrating into the healing stuff. I mean I find i more beneficial to concentrate on healing beacuse damage you're going to take it, wanted or not.
As they say, it doesn't matter how you fall, it matters how you rise.
And another thing on Kabuto and Tsunade's thing. At the time that Tsunade was his age, not so many techniques were known concerning medical nins, we should not forget that she was a prodigy when it came to that, the informations were not so well known at the time she was learning while Kabuto had them.
Is like the Higgs boson stuff. What did we knew about it few years ago? Nothing, few stuff. But as they started researching and stuff, the people nowadays have a lot more information then the previous generation at early age thanks to that previous generation. Still Kabuto (and Orochimaru indirectly as he's the one who taught him all the things) praised her as being the only one able to heal him after the 3rd Hokage fight.
And about the genjutsu stuff, I am not sure, that why I will ask: you're talking about the one now, in Sage Mode?
A medical ninja praised by Tsunade to be better than her at given age. Do not take it to present time as we've seen Kabuto conentrating more on another field of medical nin rather than healing.
Yes he had to close his eyes but he was able to fight them for quite some time.
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Itachi is an cool character and sort of demi-god like because of being a descendant of so6p. I'm not going to tell you you're wrong that he's stronger or not because mostly I'm just making an educated guess of what could happen. In my opinion though since Itachi doesn't have any summonings he can be overwhelmed and exhausted, and probably defeated unless he gets a quick KO from all his 1-shot techs. He doesn't have the stamina to fight against opponents like that.
Wparker6804
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Dude, what's up with your avatar? I recognise Lulu, but that top one is way too..... revealing
well his summon would be susano'o
no..well I think your point with stamina is totally true he is an enemy who wants to make it fast and when he goes serious is fast exhausted so the persistent Orochimaru could...well they would have a nice fight but if Orochimaru can't dodge Tsukuyomi/Susano'o/Amaterasu and all his one-shot techniques it is going really bad for Oro since Oro has no strong enough techniques to do it fast -> more time for Itachi to get him
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It seems Madara is not using genjutsu as often as Itachi so you can't really say she can counter it because she can handle Madara. Even if she has knowledge about his genjutsus she can't counter them. He can even put you under genjutsu with his finger.
And how do we know that that Gen-jutsu wasn't a weak one? Naruto is totally unable to counter Genjutsus so it could be a lower Jutsu. And as I posted maybe she has control of the gates (pretty sure she has) that would be enough to destroy the Jutsu and Katsuyu could be there. There are many ways to counter Gen-jutsu (to not make them OP) so why can't Tsunadedo that?
i mention earlier about itachi using izanagi with MS well I'm sorry i forgot that IZANAGI can only be used if the uchiha and senju DNA mixed together. so even with MS its very hard for him to defeat the slug princess. HE ONLY HAS TO EXHAUST HER OR USE IZANAMI
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b1azeph0en1x
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Itachi wins, with difficulty. Tsunade is only good at Med Ninjutsu, and a bit of Taijutsu. Itachi may be near death after the fight because he is only strong due to his MS.
O.O You say Itachi would be near death while saying Tsunade is just a bit good in Tai-jutsu...Now imagine she is a very good tai-jutsu user than Itachi would lose? (btw she IS a very good Tai-jutsu user...!) Oh and she can use different Nin-jutsu types, Gen-Jutsu, has Katsuyu and on and on...she is not that simple.
would izanami work? I didn't understood it so well so... it works with accepting fate!? Tsunade would accept her fate I think.
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b1azeph0en1x
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But if Itachi uses Izanami, the she's gonna get raped. And Itachi likes raping women.
Sexy Steel
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1st bold: I keep saying Katsuya can be genjutsu'd when summoned itachi is known to use genjutsu at beginning of fights. If she splits Phoenix sage tech elinmimate most of then seeing as slugs (even Katsuya ) are slow. I don't see how Katsuya splitting gives her any offensive capabilities.
2nd bold: no one said she can't get out, she can but the time taken to do leaves her wide open. Been a Healer doesn't mean you are immune to genjutsu
3rd bold: explain how madara and tobi put the kyubi in genjutsu explain how sasuke put manda in genjutsu.
4th bold: skin resistance yet madara was about to pierce her with his sword (no pun intended)
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Tazzilla88
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It occurs to me, Blaze that your bias gets the better of you in this argument. And haven't you yourself argued that Databook stats are not always valid and statements in the databook are at times contradictory and thus implied that the manga is the supreme cannon source, whereas the databooks while allowable are unreliable. Take for instance the entries on Kamui and Yata Mirror as a prime example. Though I will agree Sharingan genjutsus are harder to break.
Tell me what is the difference in mental capabilities between Orochimaru and Tsunade? Tell me of the difference in strength. Praytell that I may no longer be ignorant of the difference in their chakra control.
Your claim that Orochimaru is a chakra control expert because of his databook stat for genjutsu is faulty as you've already established that Tsunade has some of the best chakra control in the Narutoverse yet her genjutsu stat is lower than Kurenai and Tayuya. The fact is that Orochimaru and Itachi are supposedly genjutsu specialist.
Your argument relies too heavily on the databook because when we speak in terms of Tsunade's feats, she has several speed feats which show that her speed is underrated. I would like to point out I've responded to your next point twice already in how she has not looked Madara in the eye despite her fighting style.
Please so that I may see the wisdom in your words explain what Ninjutsu Itachi would use and why Tsunade could not avoid them. And how his handspeed correlates to her inability to dodge ninjutsu when Madara seemingly only uses one hand seal for his jutsus. What attacks does Itachi have that is so great that is would exhaust Tsunade's expansive chakra reserve before Itachi's reserve is depleted.
Edit: I just reread and I see this can come off a bit condescending forgive me, I'm doing my reading of Plato's Republic for Philosophy class...