Worst Kage Reign known...

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1) Danzo might have been corrupt but that was not of hiruzen's control as he can't shut down a whole corpse without a revolt, ALSO, Danzo ended being a great guy.

2) If the Uchiha Massacre had not happened the leaf would be no more you dumbass.

3) Only fault, Letting Orochimaru live.
 

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Bro, Sarutobi was the only one amongst the council that voted against the massacre.
 

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Chintata chita chita. Hiruzen was the worst hokage.
 

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worst reign is mizukage the 4th but seconded is hiruzen
 

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2nd hokage is not the worst becuz he cleaned up his brothers act by making uchiha part of the leaf
 

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Hiruzen was beast, the uchiha massacre was not meant to happen, horizon was against it.
The 4th mizukages was the worst by far
 

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yea the dude tobi controlled would be the worst one or maybe even pains control over the rain village he was brutal ..though not technically a kage he was in charge
 

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He was being controlled, making him a pathetic loser, and making it the worst reign. Sorry.

I totally agree, though Tsunade's reign isn't that much better. She knows Akatsuki exists and really does nothing to counter them for nearly three years. Yeah she let Jiraiya take Naruto away for training which in itself was a failure. I mean come on Naruto comes back with a bigger rasengan and still no ability to stop genjutsu considering the Itachi clone caught him in one just by pointing his finger. Tsunade should have kicked Jiraiya in the head till he was a drooling mess for that. The village gets leveled and it takes Naruto and talk no jutsu to save the day. Yagura's reign was the worst followed by Tsunade's followed by Hiruzen's
 

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Agree with VariaBossX here.

On another note:

A Lot or Allot ?
A lot (two words) is an informal phrase meaning "many." It can take an adjective, for example, "a sizeable lot."

Example: Karl needed a lot of time for the job.
Allot means "to distribute between or among." It has the same root as lottery.


Example: He allotted three breaks a day to everyone in the department.

Alot does not exist as a word.
 

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I have to disagree with you.
Through the third Hokage's reigh, the one after came back, of course, was the best reign. I mean, look at him and the students that came out in his era, all the Konoha 11, Naruto, Sasuke (even if he's on the bad side, he still is a good fighter and was first trained in Konoha).

Not to mention all the values that he preached.
My fav. is especially this one: "When there is something important to protect… that's when a shinobi's true power emerges."

And guess what Naruto said to Gaara when they first fought. Because he had someone important to protect, that's why he never gave up and was able to win over him.

So, no, to me, excluding Shodai, was the most prosperous one as a matter of fact.

I totally agree, though Tsunade's reign isn't that much better. She knows Akatsuki exists and really does nothing to counter them for nearly three years. Yeah she let Jiraiya take Naruto away for training which in itself was a failure. I mean come on Naruto comes back with a bigger rasengan and still no ability to stop genjutsu considering the Itachi clone caught him in one just by pointing his finger. Tsunade should have kicked Jiraiya in the head till he was a drooling mess for that. The village gets leveled and it takes Naruto and talk no jutsu to save the day. Yagura's reign was the worst followed by Tsunade's followed by Hiruzen's

Uhm, excuse me, a failure? Thanks to Jiraya's training he was able to get this strong. And that's thanks to Tsunade for letting him out of the village.
In the village he would've been a sure target: guess where Itachi and Kisame looked first? But if they were out that made them harder to be found and targeted. So no, sorry, that's a fail.

And just so you know, sometimes words win over punches.
 
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I have to disagree with you.
Through the third Hokage's reigh, the one after came back, of course, was the best reign. I mean, look at him and the students that came out in his era, all the Konoha 11, Naruto, Sasuke (even if he's on the bad side, he still is a good fighter and was first trained in Konoha).

Not to mention all the values that he preached.
My fav. is especially this one: "When there is something important to protect… that's when a shinobi's true power emerges."

And guess what Naruto said to Gaara when they first fought. Because he had someone important to protect, that's why he never gave up and was able to win over him.

So, no, to me, excluding Shodai, was the most prosperous one as a matter of fact.

If he was so great then why did he allowed the Uchiha massacre happen?
Why did he allowed Orochimaru turn evil?
And why the fu*k didn't he help Minato against Tobi and the Kyuubi?
 

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If he was so great then why did he allowed the Uchiha massacre happen?
Why did he allowed Orochimaru turn evil?
And why the fu*k didn't he help Minato against Tobi and the Kyuubi?

Well, I agree, that's a bad thing but when you are threatened by one of the most powerful clans in the village, what do you do? You chose one clan over the whole village?
Hell, even Itachi agreed to kill his own clan!

Orochimaru had its OWN choices! It's not like you can compel someone to agree with you, do you? If I tell you to agree with me just because I want, you would?

That was an unplanned attack. He did what he could best. While Minato fought Tobi he was fighting the Kyubii as best he could. It would've been better to sit there in his chair at home watching the whole Konoha getting crushed doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, right?

Give me a break, even in Shodai's reign were so many wars and battles, every Hokage had its bad reigns. You would want everything to be milk and honey? Well, get over it! It's not possible! THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN!

Why didn't Shodai stopped Madara in the first place then, huh?
 

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do you think that uchicha masucre would have happened if there was a differnt hokage it still would have happened they were trying to otherthrow there goverment any leader would have ordered the masiacure
 

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Well, I agree, that's a bad thing but when you are threatened by one of the most powerful clans in the village, what do you do? You chose one clan over the whole village?
Hell, even Itachi agreed to kill his own clan!

Orochimaru had its OWN choices! It's not like you can compel someone to agree with you, do you? If I tell you to agree with me just because I want, you would?

That was an unplanned attack. He did what he could best. While Minato fought Tobi he was fighting the Kyubii as best he could. It would've been better to sit there in his chair at home watching the whole Konoha getting crushed doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, right?

Give me a break, even in Shodai's reign were so many wars and battles, every Hokage had its bad reigns. You would want everything to be milk and honey? Well, get over it! It's not possible! THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN!

Why didn't Shodai stopped Madara in the first place then, huh?

Leaf started the whole thing...It was the Konoha counsel (can't be sure if Sarutobi agreed with it) that segregated the Uchiha. And then to shut them up before they could talk back against them.. Danzo did the massacre (Hiruzen knew about it). Itachi was forced. Save 1 uchiha or die with everyone else.


Hiruzen let a criminal just walk away... Doesn't matter if he was a student.


In Hashirama's Era the world was filled with war... Hashirama is know for stopping that era. Hashirama did deal with Madara..when the time came.. Before they were just simple clans working for others. BUT when the village was made and Madara came to Attack the leaf with the 9-tails.. Hashirama responded. Did hashirama know Madara would have done all this? no. But atleast he stood by his belief aka the Will of Fire. :p


do you think that uchicha masucre would have happened if there was a differnt hokage it still would have happened they were trying to otherthrow there goverment any leader would have ordered the masiacure

Shodai, Hiruzen , Tobirama all would have been against the Massacre and instead would have talked to them.... And Hashirama and Tobirama wouldn't even have segregated them.. lmao. The counsel was more in control then Hiruzen thats where the problem is. They were only overthrowing them because Leaf was showing injustice.
 

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The third hokage also had a much longer reign then any other hokage as well, so of course he had more room for error.

This simple fact makes your entire thread pointless.

My work here is done. -.-
 

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Leaf started the whole thing...It was the Konoha counsel (can't be sure if Sarutobi agreed with it) that segregated the Uchiha. And then to shut them up before they could talk back against them.. Danzo did the massacre (Hiruzen knew about it). Itachi was forced. Save 1 uchiha or die with everyone else.


Hiruzen let a criminal just walk away... Doesn't matter if he was a student.


In Hashirama's Era the world was filled with war... Hashirama is know for stopping that era. Hashirama did deal with Madara..when the time came.. Before they were just simple clans working for others. BUT when the village was made and Madara came to Attack the leaf with the 9-tails.. Hashirama responded. Did hashirama know Madara would have done all this? no. But atleast he stood by his belief aka the Will of Fire. :p




Shodai, Hiruzen , Tobirama all would have been against the Massacre and instead would have talked to them.... And Hashirama and Tobirama wouldn't even have segregated them.. lmao. The counsel was more in control then Hiruzen thats where the problem is. They were only overthrowing them because Leaf was showing injustice.

What manga are you reading? No, it wasn't the Leaf that started it, it was the Uchihas and then the counsel had to gather and talk things around.
Itachi was forced just to kill his mom and dad, yes, but besides that he was against the way his clan was acting. Then again, what manga were you reading?

At first Sarutobi proposed a peaceful truce, but it was Danzo who then went to Itachi and proposed him to slaughter the Uchihas. After that, Itachi went to the third, comunicated him his decision and only asked that Sasuke was left alive.

Stop bashing Hiruzen so much, he was known as the most kind from the history and the most prosperous reign as a matter of fact.
What it's your problem with him?

And he didn't let Orochimaru run away, he just ran away. Hiruzen many times tracked him afterwards.

If you are incapable of answering to something with logic, don't act like a child and come with replies "It doesn't matter, bla bla". Get up to your own risen standards.

How do you know what they would've done if they were to confront this situation? They didn't lived on that era so stop making assumptions. We are basing things here on pure facts. Don't bring fantasies into discussion.

Uhm, yeah, he stood by his belief, Will of Fire and fought with Madara, with the intent to kill him, didn't first stood and talked to him. Do't give me the Will of Fire thing whereas besides Tsunade, Hiruzen is second best at spreading it. Just read some of his quotes. Thanks to him the Will of Fire was passed down to this new generation because he died for the Leaf, he died for protecting what he had most precious.

And not that I have something with Shodai, but if he would have properly taken care of Madara, he wouldn't be running wild now having Rinnegan and all those stuff. So, yeah, even the greatest Hokage (to some) made mistakes.
 
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