Hashirama can possibly still be stronger than Edo Madara(Read please)

[Joshua3313]

madara vs hasirama was kinda of strange kyuubi wasnt a big part cuz its weakness is wood and hashirama had such a powerfull style i think he can still beat madara

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Madara isnt an Edo anymore... Why do you still call him an Edo? Also Hashirama didn't fight against Perfect Susano'o; Only Kurama.. Why would Madara use Kurama AND Perfect Susano'o? Even if Hashirama was that strong, It would just defeat the purpose of him going to get Kurama anyways... If he had something like Perfect Susano'o in his arsenal which is a power comparable to the Bijuu why would he go and capture and actual Bijuu?

You answered your own question.

Let me re-iterate; PS is only comparable to the power of a Bijuu; It doesn't equal the power of a Bijuu, which is why it would make sense to harness the power of an actually Bijuu and not just any Bijuu; The Nine-Tails, the strongest Bijuu...

 

[TheAwesomeOne]

You answered your own question.

Let me re-iterate; PS is only comparable to the power of a Bijuu; It doesn't equal the power of a Bijuu, which is why it would make sense to harness the power of an actually Bijuu and not just any Bijuu; The Nine-Tails, the strongest Bijuu...

Yes, but that's not what Im saying, I'm saying he didn't use PS against Hashirama if he had the STRONGEST Bijuu of them all.. Like, Why would he use PS if he had Kurama for most of the fight?

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Yes, but that's not what Im saying, I'm saying he didn't use PS against Hashirama if he had the STRONGEST Bijuu of them all.. Like, Why would he use PS if he had Kurama for most of the fight?

I dunno, never seen the actual fight; I'd imagine it would be a pain to have a Gaint Beast Jumping around while your trying to fight though...

 

[TheAwesomeOne]

I dunno, never seen the actual fight; I'd imagine it would be a pain to have a Gaint Beast Jumping around while your trying to fight though...

Haha, I've seen the part of it on Generations

 

[Prime Rib]

lmfao, madara was refering to that only hashirama has the best chance to stop him, and he means with all 5 plus hashirama close thread

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

madara out lived hash so he likely learned a lot more and devised ways to counter/defeat hash

on top of that hash only has counters for ems + kyubi madara NOT rennigan + mokuton + infinite chakra madara

edo mad > prime & edo hash

 

[uchihax]

Lol, guys accept the fact that hashirama was the strongest shinobi who ever lived, madaras power was all stolen e.g mokuton and being a Edo would obviously make him stronger because of unlimited chakra and undying body

 

[JakeLife510]

you have to understand that no Edo Madara has UNLIMITED CHAKRA AND CANT DIE
Edo Madara>Hashirama
Madara<Hashirama


Regular Madara<5 Kages

This

 

[TheSages456]

Fanboys are ridiculous. Perfect susano is Edo madaras strongest weapon. Hashirama already beat it. People are really trying to say that Edo madaras lower scale techs will kill hashirama when his strongest weapon couldnt? Bullshit

 

[KidGamer65]

Fanboys are ridiculous. Perfect susano is Edo madaras strongest weapon. Hashirama already beat it. People are really trying to say that Edo madaras lower scale techs will kill hashirama when his strongest weapon couldnt? Bullshit

The irony in this statement.

 

[TheSages456]

The irony in this statement.

Critisizes the comment but has no counter. Nice try dumbass

 

[KidGamer65]

Critisizes the comment but has no counter. Nice try dumbass

Your the dumbass if you believe Edo Madara would lose to Hashirama, fanboy.
They were near equals before you have to be stupid to believe that with these, Rinnegan, and unlimited chakra, undying body.

 

[TheSages456]

Your the dumbass if you believe Edo Madara would lose to Hashirama, fanboy.
They were near equals before you have to be stupid to believe that with these, Rinnegan, and unlimited chakra, undying body.

Did hashirama not beat madaras perfect susano which is his strongest tech even now as an Edo?

 

[KidGamer65]

Did hashirama not beat madaras perfect susano which is his strongest tech even now as an Edo?

Even if he did he has new techniques and he is immortal with and undying body, Hashirama is not winning here.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

I think its possible judging from what Madara himself has said. I also like how you combined the words "drastically" and "Dramatically for "dramastically" haha

BTW i wouldn't say they were equals before, considering hashirama beat Madara AND Kyuubi at the same time. If anything, Madara gaining a rinnegan and mokuton makes him hashirama's equal. I'm by no means a hashirama fanboy btw people just seem to forget about the fact that hashi beat both madara and the kyuubi at the same time.

That's quite the feat guys, you can't underestimate this guy.

 

[TheSages456]

Even if he did he has new techniques and he is immortal with and undying body, Hashirama is not winning here.

We already saw that hashirama wasn't out of chakra after beating madara. Saying that chakra would be an issue is just stupid. By that logic Edo hanzo would've effortlessly killed mifune. None of madaras new techs trumps his perfect susano. Madara only uses his new powers when he is toying with his opponents and that is something he can't afford to do against hashirama. when he gets serious, he uses his ems power and hashirama already beat that. Hashirama doesn't have to deal with the kyuubi this time.

 

[KidGamer65]

We already saw that hashirama wasn't out of chakra after beating madara. Saying that chakra would be an issue is just stupid. By that logic Edo hanzo would've effortlessly killed mifune. None of madaras new techs trumps his perfect susano. Madara only uses his new powers when he is toying with his opponents and that is something he can't afford to do against hashirama. when he gets serious, he uses his ems power and hashirama already beat that. Hashirama doesn't have to deal with the kyuubi this time.

1). How would you know that ?

2). He can't kill him.

3). Kyuubi was dealt with easily because Mokuton suppresses Bijuu. Plus Mito sealed the beast inside herself.

4).How is he going to counter Madara's meteor.

 

[TheSages456]

1). How would you know that ?

2). He can't kill him.

3). Kyuubi was dealt with easily because Mokuton suppresses Bijuu. Plus Mito sealed the beast inside herself.

4).How is he going to counter Madara's meteor.

I can't show you a scan because I'm on my phone. Look at chapter 568 or 567.

Um that's when sealing techs come into play.

Your right. It's not like madara was there to attack hashirama if he tried. He just told madara to wait while he suppressed kurama. Mito sealed it after the fight.

So hashirama survived madaras perfect susano onslaught but he will die to a much weaker tech. Seems legit. Hashirama makes a fort of wood to block.

 

[KidGamer65]

I can't show you a scan because I'm on my phone. Look at chapter 568 or 567.

Um that's when sealing techs come into play.

Your right. It's not like madara was there to attack hashirama if he tried. He just told madara to wait while he suppressed kurama. Mito sealed it after the fight.

So hashirama survived madaras perfect susano onslaught but he will die to a much weaker tech. Seems legit. Hashirama makes a fort of wood to block.

1). Looked at those chapters and saw nothing

2). Hashirama using sealing jutsu was never mentioned.

3).Still it's much easier to suppress than defeat.

4). You speak like you know exactly how that fight went down, how do you know a wood fort will block it, did a wood fort block PS..

Madara still has unlimited chakra, immortality, and he has Hashirama's Mokuton.
Was Hashirama stated to have no weakness, no but Edo Madara was by Kishimto himself.