Hashirama can possibly still be stronger than Edo Madara(Read please)

[Bogard]

Remember that Edo Madara said himself that Hashirama could stop him:

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But if we think about the fact that Hashirama had trouble to beat Madara in the past just with EMS, we can find it hard to believe he could beat this version of Madara, but lets see the possible difference between current Madara and the one who fought Hashirama, going by facts:

• - So far we know, he can use the Rinnengan ability called Preta Path(not sure about the other abilities, so i won't count them), but i don't see how Preta Path could be useful against Mokuton. Some people would bring the fact that Preta absorb every type of ninjutsu, but what people don't understand, is that Mokuton jutsu is not a ninjutsu attack. In fact, Hashirama uses his ninjutsu skill to create a living thing(trees). Preta absorb ninjutsu, not living things. When people say that Preta Path could absorb Mokuton, it's as if you were saying that Preta could absorb a tree or a forest
  
• - Madara also has Mokuton techniques in the contrary of back then, but problem is that it's Hashiramas Mokutons technique, so even if he uses them, Hashirama could neutralise it with his own Mokutons techniques, and i believe that Hashiramas were more powerful since it's his jutsus
  
• - Now Madara can use Mokuton clones to overwhelm Hashirama with combinations of multiple Susanoos, but don't forget it's Hashiramas technique to begin with, so Hashirama could also spamm Mokuton clones. Also, you can notice that Hashirama was able to beat Perfect Susanoo, so if he can beat Perfect Susanoo, it's not a bunches of weaker Susanoos who could even warm Hashirama. Just look the scale of his Mokuton ninjutsus, and you can clearly see that these versions of Susanoo are fodders against it:
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• Madara even admitted that if Hashirama was there, the landscape would have changed even much more dramastically
  
• - So going by the fact that Hashirama has counters to all the jutsus i've said before, Madara would most likely use Perfect Susanoo, something Hashirama has already beaten before.
  
• - In the fight between Hashirama and EMS Madara, don't forget Madara also had help from the Kyubi, and we all know how strong the Kyubi is. So it made the thing even tougher, but he still managed to beat him, and in the hypothetical current fight, Kyubi isn't there anymore

Now i'm not implying that Hashirama could counter all these jutsus at the same moment, but he has the power to be able to at least compete with Edo Madara if not even beating him

What do you think? :shrug:

 

[Dantee]

NOOOOO. No one is stronger than Edo Madara.

 

[Prince Charles]

Hashirama had the scroll of sealing which had many kinjutsu seals.

That's scroll> edo madara

 

[Thoth]

If he said that Hashirama can stop him than he simply can.

 

[shloabsky]

you have to understand that no Edo Madara has UNLIMITED CHAKRA AND CANT DIE
Edo Madara>Hashirama
Madara<Hashirama


Regular Madara<5 Kages

 

[teravita9]

Sure if Madara himselfe said so then it is legit.

 

[Lich]

yes, maybe he can beat him...not sure thoughxd

 

[Sasuke Ninja Way Reborn]

Edo Madara>Hashirama

 

[OnPoint]

Madara said Hashirama was the only one capable of stopping him; not that he 'would' certainly be able to. It doesn't help that I think Madara was only referring to his Perfect Susanoo (not his entire arsenal), but that's just me.

Mokuton is ninjutsu:

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Preta Path would've been indefinately valuable to Madara, whether it would absorb the wood itself or simply the chakra in it, making Shodai lose his ability to manipulate it. Close quaters Mokuton would be rendered useless.

How you can just sweep;

- The Rinnegan
- EMS
- Limitless chakra
- Immortal body

Under the carpet and claim Shodai could still be stronger than Madara is beyond me.

 

[DrProof]

Sealing>Any Edo.

 

[Naruto9001]

It's funny how the op left out Madara's meteor Hashi has nothing that can destroy it.

 

[megallica]

Minato>Hashirama

FACT

who said anything about minato ?

anyways, no. madara has the power of the rennigan and ems + hashiramas wood release. even though hashiramas would release is stronger, madara is still stronger, only tobi is on his level right now.

 

[Lordlloyd7]

Hey madara said it!

 

[Djokovic]

Madara said alot of thinks. Whoever sees my Perfect Susano dies!

 

[Fusion Reborn]

He can if he sealed him.

 

[Ultimate Beast]

Edo madara with rinnegan and hashi dna hell no

 

[TheAwesomeOne]

Madara isnt an Edo anymore... Why do you still call him an Edo? Also Hashirama didn't fight against Perfect Susano'o; Only Kurama.. Why would Madara use Kurama AND Perfect Susano'o? Even if Hashirama was that strong, It would just defeat the purpose of him going to get Kurama anyways... If he had something like Perfect Susano'o in his arsenal which is a power comparable to the Bijuu why would he go and capture and actual Bijuu?

 

[ShishaMastah420]

People in this thread are hilarious...

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I mean, its not like Kishimoto the Manga creator didn't have Uchiha Madara whose only rival is Hashirama claim, while under the influences of Edo Tensei, that; "Only Hashirama is capable of stopping me."

 

[Bogard]

It's funny how the op left out Madara's meteor Hashi has nothing that can destroy it.

If a rubber guy can protect himself, Hashirama could protect himself with Mokuton, and have you seen the scale of his Mokuton ninjutsus? Do you really think it can't stop a meteor?

 

[Οdin]

I've seen this many times before... and almost no one will agree with "Hashirama >= Edo Madara".