New evidence suggest that Naruto surpasses Sasuke.

[SuperFlyzzED]

Current Naruto would beat him with low difficulty. He needs Perfect Susanoo badly.

You need a new sig seriously.

 

[TheSages456]

Ive proven why sasuke cant beat naruto. Naruto has speed, strength, higher chakra levels, and more powerful techniques. At this moment sasuke cant beat naruto. If you believ he can please tell me how????


I didnt ever say naruto had a new power-up. I stated everything naruto can do and why it makes him superior to sasuke. And naruto clones can enter KM, BM, and SM. you sound like a sasuke fanboy by saying his clones cant make karuma transformations. The clones are exact replica's of himself, so of course they can make karuma transformations.. Your the sam guy who treied to say BM naruto can leave his chakra cloak. Look this chapt proved you wrong.

this chapter didnt prove me wrong. did he make a full transformation into kurama or did he manifest a single part of kurama? tell me which.

so madara can make 25 perfect susano clones since clones have all the abilities of the original?

 

[ShishaMastah420]

I'm not using the fight itself as an example... I'm using Killer Bees powers as an example. It seems you don't know Bee would have died if Sasuke didn't cut off Bees tentacle. You took a lot of what I said out of context.

If all we saw about BM was Killer Bees BM we would be thinking Sasuke is stronger than Naruto now. That's all I'm saying. Let's wait before we judge.

Hmm, I guess...

 

[DeidaraSenpai007]

well right now,naruto is stronger,before naruto become perfect jinchuriki sasuke was stronger but when they meet they'll be equal.it is what kishi said so i don't see the point on going on and on about it.

 

[DeidaraSenpai007]

Well it's true Naruto's clone > Sasuke.

i must say,u r worse than sasukesixpacks and parvin5 :flaw::flaw:

 

[dhaoracle]

Wow.. Epic fail dude. A clone ain't shit after one solid hit. Stop overrating.

Have you seen his Sage, KM, or BM Clones. They can all take more than one hit and still be standing. Naruto sent out KM Clones when the war started and they seem to be doing very very good on the battlefield. I think that his BM Clones are much more durable and would not expel before the Sage Clones do.

 

[dhaoracle]

Naruto's more powerful at the moment. Sasuke will most likely get a new power-up pretty soon, because Kishi can't leave Naruto's eternal rival so far behind him.

As Dante has already said, let's wait before we judge. At the end, they'll fight as equals.

I am not even worrying about Sasuke right now at the moment or in the future because there are two very even more powerful Shinobi out there, Madara & Tobi. I don't see him having more chakra or skills than Madara anytime soon or even more Dojutsus or Power(Jubi) than Tobi anytime soon so right now he is not even a threat to be thought about right now.

When Madara and Tobi is defeated then Sasuke would be relevant other than that he is nothing more than a nuisance.

 

[Microsword57]

Have you seen his Sage, KM, or BM Clones. They can all take more than one hit and still be standing. Naruto sent out KM Clones when the war started and they seem to be doing very very good on the battlefield. I think that his BM Clones are much more durable and would not expel before the Sage Clones do.

I agree that the clones being durable is great for Naruto's arsenal but against Sasuke i don't see how this would be helpful. Sasuke is filled with 1 Shot attacks, also EMS allows Sasuke to see through clones meaning he can aim the majority of his attacks at the original.

 

[KidGamer65]

I agree that the clones being durable is great for Naruto's arsenal but against Sasuke i don't see how this would be helpful. Sasuke is filled with 1 Shot attacks, also EMS allows Sasuke to see through clones meaning he can aim the majority of his attacks at the original.

Since when?

 

[Microsword57]

Since when?

Since Madara announced it:

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He said that only he, with his eye techniques could see through the first Hokages Wood Clones. It is known knowledge that Madara did not receive the Rinneghan until after his battle with the First Hokage. Therefore the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan allows you to see through clones.​

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Have you seen his Sage, KM, or BM Clones. They can all take more than one hit and still be standing. Naruto sent out KM Clones when the war started and they seem to be doing very very good on the battlefield. I think that his BM Clones are much more durable and would not expel before the Sage Clones do.

Your right the clones are durable, but it will take more than one clone to defeat Sasuke.

 

[KidGamer65]

Since Madara announced it:

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He said that only he, with his eye techniques could see through the first Hokages Wood Clones. It is known knowledge that Madara did not receive the Rinneghan until after his battle with the First Hokage. Therefore the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan allows you to see through clones.​

Wood Clones aren't the same as Shadow Clones, Shadow Clones are perfect copies of the original, while Wood Clones are clones made of the user's cells turned into vegetation, and besides he only said he can see through Wood Clones, never mentioned anything about Shadow Clones.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Wood Clones aren't the same as Shadow Clones, Shadow Clones are perfect copies of the original, while Wood Clones are clones made of the user's cells turned into vegetation, and besides he only said he can see through Wood Clones, never mentioned anything about Shadow Clones.

Are you talking about Madara not seeing through the shadow clones?

 

[KidGamer65]

Are you talking about Madara not seeing through the shadow clones?

No, the guy i replied to said EMS could see through shadow clones, and i replied saying that Madara said he could see through Wood Clones, but he never said he could see through shadow clones.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

No, the guy i replied to said EMS could see through shadow clones, and i replied saying that Madara said he could see through Wood Clones, but he never said he could see through shadow clones.

Even a normal sharingan can see the chakra from the opponent. Haven't we seen Sasuke show us this? Neji was able to tell when Naruto split chakra equally with all his clones. So how can't Madara see the chakra of Naruto's shadow clones? :curious:

 

[KidGamer65]

Even a normal sharingan can see the chakra from the opponent. Haven't we seen Sasuke show us this? Neji was able to tell when Naruto split chakra equally with all his clones. So how can't Madara see the chakra of Naruto's shadow clones? :curious:

Because Shadow Clones have the same exact chakra as the user so, in short he can see the Chakra but cannot distinguish the clones from the original.

 

[Microsword57]

Wood Clones aren't the same as Shadow Clones, Shadow Clones are perfect copies of the original, while Wood Clones are clones made of the user's cells turned into vegetation, and besides he only said he can see through Wood Clones, never mentioned anything about Shadow Clones.

So your telling me that a Shadow clone is more complex than a Clone that requires 2 Nature Transformations? Shadow clones are not exactly what you think they are. What made Shadow clones above the normal "

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" is that the Clone technique was Illusions that were intangible but the "

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" are actual copies of the user.Wood Clones are actually copies of the User as well but on a more complex scale since they require 2 Nature Transformations.
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" It is said that "The basic concept of the Shadow Clone Technique also applies to the Wood Clone Technique." If you look in the Wiki info of it. The difference is Wood Clones do not disappear when attacked. Wood clones are considered the "perfect clones" and are also known to be "better in deception" than Shadow clones. Known of this is my own words,​

 

[KidGamer65]

So your telling me that a Shadow clone is more complex than a Clone that requires 2 Nature Transformations? Shadow clones are not exactly what you think they are. What made Shadow clones above the normal "

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" is that the Clone technique was Illusions that were intangible but the "

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" are actual copies of the user.Wood Clones are actually copies of the User as well but on a more complex scale since they require 2 Nature Transformations.
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" It is said that "The basic concept of the Shadow Clone Technique also applies to the Wood Clone Technique." If you look in the Wiki info of it. The difference is Wood Clones do not disappear when attacked.​

Wood Clones are made out of the user's cells turned into vegetation, while Shadow Clones are made out of the exact same substances as the user. So there is no way to tell them apart.

 

[Microsword57]

Wood Clones are made out of the user's cells turned into vegetation, while Shadow Clones are made out of the exact same substances as the user. So there is no way to tell them apart.

All Clones except for the "Clone Technique" uses the same exact chakra as the user if not they would not be able to use the Users techniques which is what they mean by "The basic concept of the Shadow Clone Technique also applies to the Wood Clone Technique" meaning copying the Users Chakra and form.​

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Because Shadow Clones have the same exact chakra as the user so, in short he can see the Chakra but cannot distinguish the clones from the original.

Didn't Sasuke knew which Naruto was the original when he fought him in the Final Valley? I don't see why Madara couldn't sense the original Naruto.