Why do you not want/be mad if tobi is obito?

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I have seen people say "I don't want tobi" to be obito and "if kishi makes obito be tobi he is a troll"

But I would like to ask why? There are plot holes in all theories apart from Kagami but even if tobi is kagami kishi would still have to explain his life and his connection to madara.

If tobi is izuna kishi will have to explain:

  • Why he is not dead when we saw him in his coffin
  • How a 90+ year old man is able to do all this (possibly zetsu DNA)

If tobi is obito he would have to explain these quotes:

  • "My battle with the 1st" "Hashirama is the man I hated and respected most" "I gave nagato the rinnegan" "I incouraged yahiko" (Possibly because he was posing as madara)

So basically whoever tobi is kishi has some explaining to do and for me this is what's going to be the epic bit about his identity, kishi covering and explaing all the plot holes for whoever tobi is. And who he will connect it to the current characters in the naruto world today.

Anyway the back to my question, if tobi is obito why is kishi a troll? and why would you be mad?
 
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I'd be mad because;

-Plot holes
-I've never liked fodders, so for Obito to become someone powerful like Tobi that would annoy me
-Idk, I miss Itachi. *sigh*

Ignore point #3. :p xd
 

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Because i want him to be the sticky/search bar. Everyone will be so pissed for not using it when they ha the chance.
 

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Why do you not want be mad if tobi is obito Makes sense and stfu
 

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Because, at least for me, Izuna, Kagami, even a clone of Madara are all much cooler than some kid from Kakashi's flashbacks.
 

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Because Kishi showed Tobi to be old. Obito is not old and there is no way he could have realistically came back from near death and a few years later take on Minato and control Kurama. You should need experience/natural talent with the sharingan for that.
 

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I agree that whoever Tobi is, Kishi's going to have some explaining to do. It'll be easier for him to make Tobi a previously not introduced with a new background story, but that would kind of suck.
 

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It makes no sense and it's too obvious and cliche.
 

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I'd be mad because;

-Plot holes
-I've never liked fodders, so for Obito to become someone powerful like Tobi that would annoy me
-Idk, I miss Itachi. *sigh*

Ignore point #3. :p xd

But the tobi that went up against minato (3-5 years after obito's death) was not that strong he was just using his basic MS techs turning intangible/absorbing people which at 16 he should be able to use them pretty decently examples itachi 13 and sasuke 16
 

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I always looked at it like this, Obito is a side character from a side story, he is not important enough to be Tobi. And if he is, what would be his purpose in doing all of this?! :shrug:
 

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Because, at least for me, Izuna, Kagami, even a clone of Madara are all much cooler than some kid from Kakashi's flashbacks.

True, but it would connect more with the current characters

Because Kishi showed Tobi to be old. Obito is not old and there is no way he could have realistically came back from near death and a few years later take on Minato and control Kurama. You should need experience/natural talent with the sharingan for that.

Kishi is a troll, he would do things to deliberately make you think he was not obito for example tell the world he is uchiha madara, show tobi with 2 sharingan's

I agree that whoever Tobi is, Kishi's going to have some explaining to do. It'll be easier for him to make Tobi a previously not introduced with a new background story, but that would kind of suck.

Yh that would be the easiest thing but actually he could just use kagami we don't know anything about him

Because its to predictable

Predictable?! I think people are forgetting how long we thought he was uchiha madara for and also all the things to say he is not obito
 

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But the tobi that went up against minato (3-5 years after obito's death) was not that strong he was just using his basic MS techs turning intangible/absorbing people which at 16 he should be able to use them pretty decently examples itachi 13 and sasuke 16

No, no, no!

It is one year after Obitos death. :y :D
 

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because it would make no sense

Why not? Tell me reasons why? I hope you read the bit where I said all the theories have plot holes?

I always looked at it like this, Obito is a side character from a side story, he is not important enough to be Tobi. And if he is, what would be his purpose in doing all of this?! :shrug:

Kagami is a side character and so is obito, does that mean it can't or shouldn't be them because of that? As long as kishi fills in the blanks I would be cool.

Also did you not read the bit when he said, I won't to create a world where heroes don't make apologies at graveyards "I'm sorry rin, I'm sorry obito"
 

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I always looked at it like this, Obito is a side character from a side story, he is not important enough to be Tobi. And if he is, what would be his purpose in doing all of this?! :shrug:

that side character you speak of was important enough to give kakashi and tobi the power of kamui which is one of the most powerful jutsu there is and was important enough to be mentioned in the biggest fight in the manga so far and tbh obito hs more relevance to the story then izuna or kigami

no i dont think its obitio i think that is to obvious at this point for it to be true but seriously obito is a lil more then just a side character at this point
 

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It would make much more sense than some random Kagami stuff IMO. No one knows about Kagami, so his identity reveal would be lame.
 

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No, no, no!

It is one year after Obitos death. :y :D

You have no proof, I have no proof. All we know is it was long enough for the characters to change outfits and for them to obtain their adult voices and long enough for them to become taller. So to me that's basically the same 3 yr time skip kishi did for naruto.
 

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that side character you speak of was important enough to give kakashi and tobi the power of kamui which is one of the most powerful jutsu there is


This! Whether it's Obito or not...

Obito's eye is the reason for the Fourth War. And possibly for Naruto's parents' deaths. That's pretty much an important role.
 
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