Is Kakashi now stronger than Itachi?

[Awkward Linguist]

Not even close. Kakashi isn't even in the top 20. He can't beat Itachi and there's a lot of characters that would beat him. Just becuase he can use KAMUI 3 times doesn't mean he wins against top tier shinobis.

List of char. that are stronger (excluding SO6P and sons)

-Madara
-Tobi
-Kabuto
-Naruto
-Sasuke
-Hashirama
-Tobirama
-Minato
-Hiruzen
-Nagato
-Itachi
-3rd Raikage
-Muu
-2nd Mizukage
-Onoki
-Tsunade
-Jiraiya
-Orochimaru
-Killer Bee
-Gaara (maybe)
-Hanzo
-Danzo
-Sasori (maybe)
-Kakuzu (maybe)
-Kisame (maybe)
-4th Raikage (maybe)
-Mei (maybe)
-Lady Chio (maybe)
-Gay (maybe)

Kamui isn't an automatic win and if people say that Itachi doesn't have the speed required to dodge it, then most of these top tier char. can't because Itachi is one of the fastest ninjas of the serie.

This list Fails hardcore. U_U

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Kakashi > Itachi

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[TouchMyMangos]

People seem to have a problem with Kakashi for some reason. Just like Sasuke > Bee because of amaterasu, if that was restricted he would lose that fight. It's similar here that Kakashi can take out most characters with Kaumi but people seem to have a problem with it.

Very intelligent lad, +rep.

 

[lionel654]

It doesn't kill people straight away. If you get hit with Kamui, the match is over for you immediately. Please read carefully.



Itachi is not faster than Kamui. Izanami requires shared physical sensation; he has to physically hit Kakashi. Not working.

you just telling me but not using facts...like i said before how do you know that if you judging kakashi kamui speed when he wrap naruto then itachi can dodge it because he went hand to hand combat with km naruto.

izanami is not just sensation if itachi has intel on kakashi kamui like you said. he will start the battle where he has the edge with like a clone. plus tsukuyomi all that he needs is eye contact. itachi > kakashi anyday

 

[TouchMyMangos]

you just telling me but not using facts...like i said before how do you know that if you judging kakashi kamui speed when he wrap naruto then itachi can dodge it because he went hand to hand combat with km naruto.

izanami is not just sensation if itachi has intel on kakashi kamui like you said. he will start the battle where he has the edge with like a clone. plus tsukuyomi all that he needs is eye contact. itachi > kakashi anyday

Tsukuyomi isn't happening in this match. Read the OP. Kakashi has knowledge. He won't look into his eyes. If you honestly believe Itachi speed = KM Naruto's, you are a joke. Even Nagato was able to react to KM Naruto. Naruto's speed, along with A's, is above Itachi's. This has been made clear in the manga. He's fast, but not that fast, and not fast enough to avoid Kamui.

 

[Ninpou]

That is really bad logic and you know it.



This is not a troll thread. No-one has given me a counter to Kamui. For Itachi, this counter does not exist.

Your calling Kamui instant when it isnt, the clone it warped wasnt moving full speed because the sharingan cant track speed that high.

 

[blackstar9]

Everyone knows that Susanoo can be warped. You seem to be the only one.

prove it !

 

[lol99]

People seem to have a problem with Kakashi for some reason. Just like Sasuke > Bee because of amaterasu, if that was restricted he would lose that fight. It's similar here that Kakashi can take out most characters with Kaumi but people seem to have a problem with it.

lol i agree some what

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Your calling Kamui instant when it isnt, the clone it warped wasnt moving full speed because the sharingan cant track speed that high.

I never said it was instant. But it is faster than Itachi, that is clear. Itachi has no way to dodge it or counter it.

prove it !

Sasanoo is materialised chakra. It's not like a spirit or something. It will obey the laws of physics, and it will get warped. Itacih could always reform it, but he won't be quicker than a Kamui to the head.

 

[blackstar9]

Tsukuyomi isn't happening in this match. Read the OP. Kakashi has knowledge. He won't look into his eyes. If you honestly believe Itachi speed = KM Naruto's, you are a joke. Even Nagato was able to react to KM Naruto. Naruto's speed, along with A's, is above Itachi's. This has been made clear in the manga. He's fast, but not that fast, and not fast enough to avoid Kamui.

kakashi had knowledge of itachi tsukiyomi when kisame and itach arrived in the leaf . he still fell victim

 

[hatakii kakashii]

+rep i completely agree with you even fanboys know that kamui is a one hit ko but they don t have the courage to deal with it

 

[TouchMyMangos]

kakashi had knowledge of itachi tsukiyomi when kisame and itach arrived in the leaf . he still fell victim

He had never experienced its power. Now he knows. Please, the way you're hanging onto Itachi here is ugly. He cannot counter Kamui. Let it go.

 

[ShippudenRules]

This list Fails hardcore. U_U

Ok, since this list fails so much, Nagato who is slower than Itachi would get defeated by Kakashi. Almost all the akatsuki members would get defeated? Could he defeat past kages/hokages? Do you really think that the OP char. of this list would die that easily?

People are overrating Kakashi a bit too much now.

 

[lionel654]

Tsukuyomi isn't happening in this match. Read the OP. Kakashi has knowledge. He won't look into his eyes. If you honestly believe Itachi speed = KM Naruto's, you are a joke. Even Nagato was able to react to KM Naruto. Naruto's speed, along with A's, is above Itachi's. This has been made clear in the manga. He's fast, but not that fast, and not fast enough to avoid Kamui.

OOhh man you just don't get it do you itachi kept up with KM thats all im saying
seriously dude you're just trolling yourself let me break it down for you

>> Kakashi kamui speed based on naruto KM
>> Itachi kept up with KM
>> so basically itachi can dodge kamui
see what i used there logic im not just saying im showing you.

this is me using your logic : you said kakashi won't look into his eyes but everyone knows itachi has caught people into a genjutsu without them looking at him. lifting a finger, izanami i can go on END of
Itachi > kakashi anyways you look at it

 

[TouchMyMangos]

OOhh man you just don't get it do you itachi kept up with KM thats all im saying
seriously dude you're just trolling yourself let me break it down for you

>> Kakashi kamui speed based on naruto KM
>> Itachi kept up with KM
>> so basically itachi can dodge kamui
see what i used there logic im not just saying im showing you.

this is me using your logic : you said kakashi won't look into his eyes but everyone knows itachi has caught people into a genjutsu without them looking at him. lifting a finger, izanami i can go on END of
Itachi > kakashi anyways you look at it

But Naruto DID not DODGE Kamui, did he? It was fast enough to track Naruto. You are confused. Itachi's speed << Naruto's. He kept up with Naruto but it wasn't his FULL speed. Even an immobile Nagato kept up with him and caught him. Don't be foolish now. NONE of Itachi's jutsus activate faster than Kamui. NONE except AMATERASU, but that doesn't kill people straight away; Kamui DOES.

 

[blackstar9]

I never said it was instant. But it is faster than Itachi, that is clear. Itachi has no way to dodge it or counter it.



Sasanoo is materialised chakra. It's not like a spirit or something. It will obey the laws of physics, and it will get warped. Itacih could always reform it, but he won't be quicker than a Kamui to the head.

. the biggest thing kakashi has warped is a missile and deidera arm.

stop making stuff up he didnt try to warp sasuke susanoo. even when sasuke susanoo arrows. almost killed him. I repeat the biggest thing kakashi has warped is a missile and deidera arm stop making stuff up:flaw:

 

[captainEO]

kakashi has better ninjutsu , stamina , speed ( he kept up with gated gai and v2 jinchuurickis ) , experience and intelligence and a super fast kamui . i think he wins it

Nooooooooo.

Srsly, NO.

It's well established that Itachi is more powerful than Kakashi, there's no comparison.

 

[hatakii kakashii]

OOhh man you just don't get it do you itachi kept up with KM thats all im saying
seriously dude you're just trolling yourself let me break it down for you

>> Kakashi kamui speed based on naruto KM
>> Itachi kept up with KM
>> so basically itachi can dodge kamui
see what i used there logic im not just saying im showing you.

this is me using your logic : you said kakashi won't look into his eyes but everyone knows itachi has caught people into a genjutsu without them looking at him. lifting a finger, izanami i can go on END of
Itachi > kakashi anyways you look at it

haha kakashi kamuied BM naruto not km

 

[TouchMyMangos]

. the biggest thing kakashi has warped is a missile and deidera arm.

stop making stuff up he didnt try to warp sasuke susanoo. even when sasuke susanoo arrows. almost killed him. I repeat the biggest thing kakashi has warped is a missile and deidera arm stop making stuff up:flaw:

He was about to warp GEDO MAZO. Please think again.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Nooooooooo.

Srsly, NO.

It's well established that Itachi is more powerful than Kakashi, there's no comparison.

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