Tobi's real time line

[deyoers]

Obito has seen Minato in action and looked up to him, I highly doubt Obito would underestimate him.

madara knew tobi. when he was revived( edo tensei), he guessed that everything's probably his doing. i doubt if he ws referring to kabuto. it was tobi. who knows when madara died. what we know is that he lived a long time after his fight with hashi. theres a possibility that he met obito. used him, influenced him, or even train him, whatever. so he became arrogant when he faced minato, thinking that he can take him. with his kamui, he knew that if things go bad, he can always escape with ease, so yeah, why not try fighting minato. theres nothing to loose. anyway, these are just my thoughts. there are so many hidden gaps that counts many possibilities. this is how i see them.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

madara knew tobi. when he was revived( edo tensei), he guessed that everything's probably his doing. i doubt if he ws referring to kabuto. it was tobi. who knows when madara died. what we know is that he lived a long time after his fight with hashi. theres a possibility that he met obito. used him, influenced him, or even train him, whatever. so he became arrogant when he faced minato, thinking that he can take him. with his kamui, he knew that if things go bad, he can always escape with ease, so yeah, why not try fighting minato. theres nothing to loose. anyway, these are just my thoughts. there are so many hidden gaps that counts many possibilities. this is how i see them.

Somebody that realises this is a manga and anything can happen.

People forget oonki is still alive and fighting in this world war and him and madara are from the same time. Obviously madara is older then oonki so he would die before him but he still could of lived to about obito's time and died when obito was about 14-15.

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

he had to have been someone outside of the villiage to have never seen minatos fighting style

 

[natssuu]

Incorrect. Tobi and Madara have a connection, which was confirmed by Madara himself. People are confused about when Madara died, but Kishi already gave the answer: ''It seems that brat Nagato managed to grow'' <-- When Nagato was child? Yep, during Second great ninja war + that's also the time he obtained the rinnegans, so with common sense we can get this conclusion: Madara died right before Nagato got the rinnegans. And that's why Tobi must be at least as old as the sannins, because they were teens when they fought against Hanzo during Second great ninja war. Tobi can't be Obito.

 

[KidGamer65]

Well it's impossible that Madara gave his rinnengan to Nagato without tobi being alive at that time, since madara himself said to kabuto that he died shortly after awakening his rinnengan. "shortly" of course is a bad term, so he could have given them to nagato himself, however, he couldn't have lived much longer afterwards, so tobi had to be around, probably without a mask though.

This is pretty much why Tobi cannot be Obito.

 

[3MESSIAH]

you put this together so good that i was almost convinced but i still think he`s not obito,because it`s just too obvious to be true xd

 

[ismael]

He wouldn't have underestimated Minato if he was Obito.

Yes and he would not be surprised when minato used space time jutsu( forgot the name)

 

[Simplified]

He wouldn't have underestimated Minato if he was Obito.

This is an excellent point. tobi was acting like that was the first time seeing Minato in battle, that can't be right if he's Obito.

 

[PAIN86]

Tobi could have been someone from the Anbu, what better way to collect sharingans then to retrieve the dead bodies of fellow comrades, isnt that what they do? to protect the villages secrets. he could have taken Obito's eye when sent to retrieve his corpse. seems like he knows kakashi on a personal level, thats how he could have passed through the barrier during Naruto's birth? this could possibly mean he's from the same generation as Danzou and the 3rd hokage

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Well it's impossible that Madara gave his rinnengan to Nagato without tobi being alive at that time, since madara himself said to kabuto that he died shortly after awakening his rinnengan. "shortly" of course is a bad term, so he could have given them to nagato himself, however, he couldn't have lived much longer afterwards, so tobi had to be around, probably without a mask though.

Read my theory in post #9 and you will see a possibility

Incorrect. Tobi and Madara have a connection, which was confirmed by Madara himself. People are confused about when Madara died, but Kishi already gave the answer: ''It seems that brat Nagato managed to grow'' <-- When Nagato was child? Yep, during Second great ninja war + that's also the time he obtained the rinnegans, so with common sense we can get this conclusion: Madara died right before Nagato got the rinnegans. And that's why Tobi must be at least as old as the sannins, because they were teens when they fought against Hanzo during Second great ninja war. Tobi can't be Obito.

Same to you read my theory in post #9 and tell me what you think

Tobi could have been someone from the Anbu, what better way to collect sharingans then to retrieve the dead bodies of fellow comrades, isnt that what they do? to protect the villages secrets. he could have taken Obito's eye when sent to retrieve his corpse. seems like he knows kakashi on a personal level, thats how he could have passed through the barrier during Naruto's birth? this could possibly mean he's from the same generation as Danzou and the 3rd hokage

Hmm doesn't sound half bad, I don't mind who tobi is I just hope he has a epic back story involving madara and all the other links about tobi.

 

[LolaxXx]

actually bro, he underestimated minato coz he was immature. the real madara wouldn't have done that. the real madara respected all his opponents no matter how strong or weak they were. he recognized them. only a brat would do such underestimation.

WRONG. both Tobi and the real madara have been shown to underestimate, and even mock his opponents. Madara VS 5 kage, he's been toying and taunting them the entire fight. Tobi has been trash talking naruto since they met.

 

[KidGamer65]

I read all of post #9 and saw nothing elaborating on how Tobi would know Madara, since Kishi confrimed the two know each other.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

I read all of post #9 and saw nothing elaborating on how Tobi would know Madara, since Kishi confrimed the two know each other.

I made that thread ages ago before we knew madara and tobi knew each other. If I had known this information then I would of mentioned how oonki is still alive today which means it is possible for madara to have lived to obito's time and die. And even if not madara him self madara could of plotted with zetsu where my theory comes in.

WRONG. both Tobi and the real madara have been shown to underestimate, and even mock his opponents. Madara VS 5 kage, he's been toying and taunting them the entire fight. Tobi has been trash talking naruto since they met.

? Tobi did not underestimate minato but remember obito was young when he was minato's student. Obito rin and kakashi knew of minato's abilities but were still learning from comments like "he's so fast". I doubt they knew about FTG level 2, if it wasn't for FTG level 2 tobi would of won that battle

 

[KidGamer65]

I made that thread ages ago before we knew madara and tobi knew each other. If I had known this information then I would of mentioned how oonki is still alive today which means it is possible for madara to have lived to obito's time and die. And even if not madara him self madara could of plotted with zetsu where my theory comes in.

Madara couldn't have lived that long because Madara died shortly after unlocking Rinnegan, and Nagato has his Rinnegan so he had to have died when Nagato was a child.

 

[Uchiha Leader]

I made that thread ages ago before we knew madara and tobi knew each other. If I had known this information then I would of mentioned how oonki is still alive today which means it is possible for madara to have lived to obito's time and die. And even if not madara him self madara could of plotted with zetsu where my theory comes in.

madara died before obito was even alive madara eyes were given to nagato, madara died young and was revived that way by edo tensai with his eyes so that means he had his rinnegan when he died.

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so madara died before nagato was able to use the rinnegan and that was way before obito was alive,madara just saw nagato when he was a child.

 

[Em3plum]

the tobi that was controlling the mizukage had to be their for a while because he was behind the whole blood mist village thing if zabuza is kakashi's age he has to be a little older than the 4th hokage at least around the 3rd hokage age