Tobi's real time line

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The biggest misconception about tobi is the events we have actually seen him in. I am going to confirm to everyone that the first tobi we ever saw in the naruto series was short haired tobi and this was the nine tails attack.

The long haired tobi that revealed himself to kisame was tobi 8 years after the nine tails attack and itachi was around 13 at this time.

Tobi has calmed to do the following things “battle with the 1st" “hashirama being the man he hates and respects most" “Give nagato the rinnegan" “In courage Yahiko to start the akatsuki" (Note this is all things we haven't seen tobi do) We know now tobi is not madara, so I ask my self is the things he said he done actually done by him or was he posing as madara?

Even the bit about nagato can be backed up with the real madara doing it and not tobi.

So yh basically tobi can be obito as the first tobi we saw and can confirm from kishi has short hair and all the events he said he done before this time can be backed up for it being madara.

So why can't tobi be obito, come at me bro!
 
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There are not two Tobi's. He uses Zetsu to preserve his body. Also ever heard of Hair Growth?
 

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There are not two Tobi's. He uses Zetsu to preserve his body. Also ever heard of Hair Growth?

Read the post properly I am saying there is only 1 tobi and the first one we ever saw had short hair. I am saying the tobi behind the 4th that revealed himself to kisame is 8 years after the kyuubi attack meaning it could be obito.
 

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He wouldn't have underestimated Minato if he was Obito.
 

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Only Kishi can prove what anyone says, for now just thinking about Tobi's timeline and words itself doesn't make sense, he said too many things and we've yet to know which of them were true and which were lies. IMO Tobi's eye isn't Obito's eye, we didn't see him activate his MS and Kishi's keeping it hidden, there's a point behind this... to make people think he's Obito, but not seeing that he activated doesn't also means that he doesn't have it. Meh Tobi's identity is messed up, anyway that's what I think.

And I don't know but shouldn't this be in the sticky thread ?
 

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Off topic reposting my first thread on base "tobi can be obito" one of the best tobi = obito thread so far

Ignore and don't open if you do not wish to read. Simple.

Yep this is another Tobi is Obito thread but it may just be the best one you have ever read and might even make you reconsider your previous thoughts..

My Theory

Here's my theory obito's near death experience enabled him to unlock his ability to become intangible and pass through solid objects and barely makes it out alive from the underground cave with the right side of his body half crushed. Right after this he encountered Zetsu who meets this young boy with special eye powers and saves him.

I belive Zetsu is some sort of creation by madara “The way I see it is that, when madara was dying he activated the rinnegan, and let’s zetsu take the rinnengan from him, along with the harashima cells, and also some of madara's own DNA. He then tells zetsu implant all of these things into a piece of zetsu body, like a big enough chunk to make a body, hence developing a second madara. That had all his memories (or possibly he could of extracted his entire brain?) and shit.”

And later infused this body with obito who he found because he needed the body of an uchiha and this was he’s perfect chance because the uchiha’s were all still alive and he didn’t want to engage into combat.

Now what if zetsu (or even madara him self you never know)before meeting obito implanted the rinnegan into an uzumaki child (nagato). So he could get the Sage Body |Sage Eyes sort of thing in order to study it abilities and then later when this uzumaki child was powerful enough revive madara in his prime.

But as this uzumaki got older and stronger zetsu knows he wouldn’t be able to guide and control this child anymore, which is why he needed an uchiha body to put madara’s dna, memories and harashima cells into. Which he later did when he lucky found this defenceless boy with special eye power.. Obito.

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Now before you question my theory or flame me read the whole thread !!!!!!

First of all let's start with the BASICS, tobi is basically Obito with a missing O this is probably one of the first links people spotted but is very true. Even if you say tobi backwards out loud it is actually “bi to” and if you spell tobi together multiple times without spaces you get this tobitobitobitobi SMALL, IRRELEVANT but ture links but as I said this is just the BASICS. Now this same small link was the same with naruto and nagato and look at the big link with them, both uzumaki, Both jiraya's students..

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the list of links goes on

In the naruto series Kishi makes a lot of links between characters, names and much more which are all connected... don't want to go into details withall the links with names this thread would be too long..

Second link hair well as we all know obito's hair and tobi's CURRENT hair are very similar
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But in the past tobi has been seen with longer hair, but obito could of left his hair to grow for whatever reason and then cut it back to how it was originally.

Also the first tobi we ever ever! saw was the one who went up against the 4th and this tobi had short hair. So this supports he let his hair grow again to maybe change is appearance or for whatever reason.

Tobi is a character who changes his appearance the most in Naruto with frequent mask changes

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You saying tobi is not obito because he once had long hair is just like saying the mask man who talked to kisamae is not tobi because he has a different mask

Tobi's sharingan powers is similar to kakashi's it was stated that each sharingan user has unique power, kakashi can warp objects that he focuses his eyes on into different dimensions

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Tobi can warp anything he touches into different dimensions.. as well as himself to different dimensions and other locations.

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Kakashi sharingan IS Obito's eye and kakashi is not a full uchiha so it’s obvious that he would not be able to use it to its full ability. It is also obvious that obito would have this sort space/time powers if he survived, which tobi clearly does.

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People also say well it’s not obito because tobi has 2 sharingan which was revealed with his fight against konan well..

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Tobi has shown great skill in transplanting eyes as he gave sasuke itachi's eyes and also he implanted the rinnegan in he’s left eye. So yhhh that kills that argument doesn't it..

Another argument is tobi is too strong to be obito he couldn't of got that strong in that time space to fight the 4th and so on, well if obito did survive we don't know what happened to him in those 3-5 (not sure) years. Look at naruto here

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And now look at him here

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Hope you get my point, look how strong naruto has become in a 3-4 year period, I mean itachi killed his whole clan when he was 13 (I think) so how can you say tobi is too strong to be obito.

Also what people do not see is that obito is not strong at all, I mean all he does is absorb people and teleport. I mean if obito did survive and unlock his powers would he need to improve much on his ninjutsu and taijutsu ?? I think not! He’s powers to become intangible and his space/time techniques are fearful enough

Yes he went up against the 4th... And lost !

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Anyone can go up against anyone the battle between the 4th and tobi was mainly a battle of brains not brawn, tobi isn't physically strong at all it’s just his ocular powers which are enough.

People say Obito has no reason to be evil look well.. look at sasuke here

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and look at sasuke here

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Obviously we have been following the story of sasuke as well as naruto so we know all the events that have happened in the last 3-4 years but like I said we don't know what happen to obito if he did survive.. good guys can turn bad as seen with many characters.. * cough cough* nagato

Now obito's body was crushed.. Tobi's body is filled with a white substance most likely zetsu,

which makes perfect sense for this to be obito look at tobi here

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he's right side is white

we know that zetsu and tobi are very close

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Like my theory says he could have confronted obito or even saved him we don’t know!

Tobi is old we saw his face, yhh whatever, we've seen the right said of his face NEVER the left, his right side was crushed of course it would look squashed. There has been many times were we have seen tobi’s right side of his face never his left ??

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This one is the real key if kishi is willing to reveal this much of tobi’s face he might aswell reveal all of it ? welll if it is obito the the left side should be fine not squashed which is the only reason I can think of for his left face not to be shown

This is a complete random clue I saw from re watching some past naruto ep's (ay I was bored) anyway right before akatsuki was introduced and itachi and kismae were sitting down in a restaurant this was said.............

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Asuma said this to kakashi because he said he is collecting something for an offering or something like that. Funny that obito was mentioned right before akatsuki were introduced and I assure you this was righttt before itachi, kisame and akatsuki was introduced. It would be very ironic as tobi claims to be the influence behind akatsuki and obito is mentioned right before akatsuki’s introduction anyway just a clue I found.

If you actually read all that wow, I added a lot of pictures in this thread so I could prove everything I said was true. I will probably reply to post on this thread by just copying and pasting because people don’t seem to read the post properly when the answer is right there.

There's no way I can go into why tobi isn't the elder son, izuna uchiha or kami uchiha. Have you seen how long this thread is however I will do brief summaries why I believe they are not tobi.

Sage of six path son:
“Even the elder son's dad wasn’t immortal so why would he be? Kakuzu even said there’s no true immortality meaning even Hidan ages. Everything deteriorates. Plus tobi posed as madara. why would the mighty son of the sage pose as a kid, who would madara be to him? and why is he madara's bitch, following madara's plan and planning to resurrect madara? why would he become so weak over the years? his fight with his bro couldn’t have done that much.”

Izuni madara brother:

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He is blind and dead why do you people say this, if he was blind how did he get new eyes?? We saw him in his coffin ?? Even if he "didn't die" he would die from old age what is wrong with you people ?? Yet we didn’t see obito die and you say he is dead ??

Kami uchiha: I wouldn't mind if it was, I actually like the idea and is who I believe tobi is if it is not obito. Kami is around the right age to be tobi and also he just seemed to disappear with no explanation. But if it was him, who would it shock? Most people probably don't even know him the third is dead, danzo is dead and the second 2nd is dead.. If it was obito that involves the 4th and Kakashi who are connected to almost all the characters in the naruto universe in some way or form.

For those how thought the obito is tobi theory died I'm showing you it’s still alive and kicking !!

Please argue against any of the points I've made or maybe some that I haven't made, this is a discussion and I would like to hear your thoughts
I just don’t like the fact that people are saying “It can’t be Obito !!” when as I have shown in this thread it very well could be. :scorps:
 
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He wouldn't have underestimated Minato if he was Obito.

You don't understand FTG level 2! Obito has never seen that before he didn't know minato could teleport to a kunai he had just throw before it was even stationary. Basically tobi (obito) was not strong enough yet to take on the fourth which is why he lost.

Only Kishi can prove what anyone says, for now just thinking about Tobi's timeline and words itself doesn't make sense, he said too many things and we've yet to know which of them were true and which were lies. IMO Tobi's eye isn't Obito's eye, we didn't see him activate his MS and Kishi's keeping it hidden, there's a point behind this... to make people think he's Obito, but not seeing that he activated doesn't also means that he doesn't have it. Meh Tobi's identity is messed up, anyway that's what I think.

And I don't know but shouldn't this be in the sticky thread ?

Nah this is not a tobi = obito thread it is a tobi's real timeline thread but at the bottom I add my thought on the time line.

Anyway yes I know the tobi time line is sketchy which is why I looked at the things we have actually seen and the time they happened. They are all after obito's death and the first tobi we ever see has short hair.


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Ok so obito's eye allows the user to teleport and to turn intangible.. and we are saying instead of him using it him self in a life and death situation he didn't someone else took it and then did...
 

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Well it's impossible that Madara gave his rinnengan to Nagato without tobi being alive at that time, since madara himself said to kabuto that he died shortly after awakening his rinnengan. "shortly" of course is a bad term, so he could have given them to nagato himself, however, he couldn't have lived much longer afterwards, so tobi had to be around, probably without a mask though.
 

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He wouldn't have underestimated Minato if he was Obito.

actually bro, he underestimated minato coz he was immature. the real madara wouldn't have done that. the real madara respected all his opponents no matter how strong or weak they were. he recognized them. only a brat would do such underestimation.
 

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POST #1 + #9 = Mind = Blownn

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Well take you forever to read though ;) have fun
 
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There's a huge chance it can be Izuna, don't throw your theory in our face and just completely ignore a very good possibility - If you want proof VM me.
 

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There's a huge chance it can be Izuna, don't throw your theory in our face and just completely ignore a very good possibility - If you want proof VM me.

Did you read post #9 and combine it with post #1 ;):rolleyes: Need I say more.

I disregard the the izuna theory (said in bottom of post #9) but I believe the kagami theory is highly possible.

It is all up to kishi and what he wants he can write anything he wants and it would be true. But I have shown that it can be obito and I made these threads ages ago they are even more backed up now.
 

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actually bro, he underestimated minato coz he was immature. the real madara wouldn't have done that. the real madara respected all his opponents no matter how strong or weak they were. he recognized them. only a brat would do such underestimation.

Obito has seen Minato in action and looked up to him, I highly doubt Obito would underestimate him.
 

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For sure tobi is an Uchiha, and for sure he is incorporated w/ zetsu.
its obvious madara didnt give his eyes himself to nagato because he was revived in edo w/ his eyes intact, meaning he died w/ his eyes still.

Tobi is NOT Obito because hes never deactivated his sharigan and he just said it was Obitos eye, no uchiha keeps their own eye activated all the time.
^^Obito would not underrate a match w/ his master/minato
and the characteristics they showed of obito do not match tobis! (goggles for eyes, any head band, personality)
Tobi is highly knowledgeable! To claim Obito grew vastly in 3 years and even learned to control the ninetales w/ no possible way to train prior is just stupid.
Kakashi was known as a prodigy, and was trained by the same master and coudnt have excelled that fast, and even sasuke (revenge driven) w/ oro's repeated vigorous training and knowledge couldnt excel that fast.
Plus he lacks intent.
Im undecided w/ Izuna, it could be why his eye doesnt deactivate, and how he has much knowledge and even a vast collection of eyes, but Madara referred to tobi as "his doing" and not "brother" or Izuna.
Believe even he stated he was dead, and Madara is not portrayed as a liar as tobi is.
^^will look that up though^^
anyways, im going to bed.lol
I just mainly think you should keep an open mind, we are lacking information still!
Im more curious of how zetsu is involved and who "the one who knows everything" is, maybe thats even zetsu? o_O
W/ Oro's release, they have many more topics to jump around w/.
I wish Kishi would make a legit timeline for everything/everyone but from naruto thru shipudden i think it would just make more loop holes.
 

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For sure tobi is an Uchiha, and for sure he is incorporated w/ zetsu.
its obvious madara didnt give his eyes himself to nagato because he was revived in edo w/ his eyes intact, meaning he died w/ his eyes still.

Tobi is NOT Obito because hes never deactivated his sharigan and he just said it was Obitos eye, no uchiha keeps their own eye activated all the time.
^^Obito would not underrate a match w/ his master/minato
and the characteristics they showed of obito do not match tobis! (goggles for eyes, any head band, personality)
Tobi is highly knowledgeable! To claim Obito grew vastly in 3 years and even learned to control the ninetales w/ no possible way to train prior is just stupid.
Kakashi was known as a prodigy, and was trained by the same master and coudnt have excelled that fast, and even sasuke (revenge driven) w/ oro's repeated vigorous training and knowledge couldnt excel that fast.
Plus he lacks intent.
Im undecided w/ Izuna, it could be why his eye doesnt deactivate, and how he has much knowledge and even a vast collection of eyes, but Madara referred to tobi as "his doing" and not "brother" or Izuna.
Believe even he stated he was dead, and Madara is not portrayed as a liar as tobi is.
^^will look that up though^^
anyways, im going to bed.lol
I just mainly think you should keep an open mind, we are lacking information still!
Im more curious of how zetsu is involved and who "the one who knows everything" is, maybe thats even zetsu? o_O
W/ Oro's release, they have many more topics to jump around w/.
I wish Kishi would make a legit timeline for everything/everyone but from naruto thru shipudden i think it would just make more loop holes.

I have said my part in post #1 and #9 we will see who is right soon
 
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