Orochimaru was always the Strongest of the Sannin

[Da second]

And itachi smashed orochimaru no problem on more in more then one fight with ease. itachi and kisame were together and itachi clearly say they would lose against him that to me say jiraya was stronger n ways. orochimara had to use edo tensei to jump an old man then people eant to talk about hw sasuke did against orochimaru hw pitiful then to top that off he still lost and got his arms took lol nw i will give him this.

He undoubtly is the smartest villian there is he took out the kazekage and impersenated him and made the sand do his dirty work wat a stroke of genuis,he sealed part of his soul and sage jutsu n the curse mark so he could b revived who wouldve guess,minipulated people with kindness to commit some of the most hanis acts this man is legend,and last but nt least sum off the most dangerous characters n naruto either learned from worked with experminted with and took from his genuis so he is great to me but jiraya all dayyyyy son

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Don't take as it a certain when someone said something about someone....Mifune regarded Hanzo as a great, but did it so? It was entirely from Mifune's perspective. Itachi had always great respect and love for his fellow ninja and Konoha. So, Itachi obviously exaggerated about Jirya. There was no doubt Jirya was stronger but the point is who is strongest among three....Whatever we knew from manga, it clearly denotes Oro is strongest..........Once, Kakshi wanted to kill Sasuke. Do you think Kakshi could able to do that? I reckon, no.......

wow your trying too hard just kidding, now i mentioned what itachi said as an example and saying itachi loved all his fellow konoha shinobi is silly...:sy: he tortured kakashi and fought the others for fun huh ?? now itachi was in konoha for a mission to capture naruto, but gues what j man was there so not him or kisame can handle a shinobi of jiraiya's level. you should look at every thing that speakes of the characters statues and in jiraiya's case can you explain how the akatsuki didn't dare capture naruto on jiraiyas watch ?? all that also explains how strong a healthy oro is coz he and jiraiya are on the same level. bro logic is a beautiful thing and mifune said hanzo was great coz he admired him but if you wana know how strong was hanzo you should look at his background, people ran on the sound of his name coz he was A MONSTER R.I.P

 

[b1azeph0en1x]

Lets put this straight... Jman has jutsus of mass destruction, hence people think he is stronger. But Oro's jutsus are quite faster and he has regenerative jutsus, making him almost immortal. Plus, I think Oro can also use the Dragon SM, which would make him stronger. So Iam going for Oro.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Lets put this straight... Jman has jutsus of mass destruction, hence people think he is stronger. But Oro's jutsus are quite faster and he has regenerative jutsus, making him almost immortal. Plus, I think Oro can also use the Dragon SM, which would make him stronger. So Iam going for Oro.

i respect your opinion coz it is logical except oro dragon sm

 

[UzumakiNaruto20]

Shadow clone it's no say jariya knows how to do tht SMH it's like saying orochimaru could do rasengan just cuz he has wind release so Dnt give jariya jutsu we Dnt know he has

Another thing not direceted to u but jariya cannot I repeat cannot stop hydra
Oro wins nuff said

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[ANBU Kakashi23]

i think oro is stronger, but just because overall , his base is far superior to jman's base, in a fight i doubt jman would have the opportunity to even go into sm, and even if he did, the only technique i can think of that hes shown, which would work, would be frog song, the rest of his arsenal wont kill oro. or even maim him for that matter, his regenerative powers are too great, and im not sure, but i think he absorbed all of the sound 5/taka abilities out of kabuto, if thats the case, then oro stomps jman into the dirt no question

 

[SatchiZurake]

Lets put this straight... Jman has jutsus of mass destruction, hence people think he is stronger. But Oro's jutsus are quite faster and he has regenerative jutsus, making him almost immortal. Plus, I think Oro can also use the Dragon SM, which would make him stronger. So Iam going for Oro.

He can't use dragon sage mode because he was never able to find a body strong enough to handle the technique. But that was the point i made earlier--The edge Orochimaru has on jiraiya is that he can regenerate while jiraiya can't. Even in sage mode its stupid for people to think that jiraiya is going to land all kind of hits on Oro and Oro won't land a single one.
That and all of the powerful trump cards jiraiya has- sage mode, frog song genjutsu, etc, all require a lot of prep time that he just can't get unless he's in a setting like he was with Nagato. But nobody seems to acknowledge that. That and we saw from the Manda Gamabunta and Katsuyu fight that Manda is stronger than all of Jiraiya's frog summons. But I already made all these points way earlier in the thread so now I'm just repeating myself.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

He can't use dragon sage mode because he was never able to find a body strong enough to handle the technique. But that was the point i made earlier--The edge Orochimaru has on jiraiya is that he can regenerate while jiraiya can't. Even in sage mode its stupid for people to think that jiraiya is going to land all kind of hits on Oro and Oro won't land a single one.
That and all of the powerful trump cards jiraiya has- sage mode, frog song genjutsu, etc, all require a lot of prep time that he just can't get unless he's in a setting like he was with Nagato. But nobody seems to acknowledge that. That and we saw from the Manda Gamabunta and Katsuyu fight that Manda is stronger than all of Jiraiya's frog summons. But I already made all these points way earlier in the thread so now I'm just repeating myself.

jiraiya has a huge pool of chakra, so huge that the only person who had the chance to learn sage mode like him was naruto coz of the nine tails inside him. oro's regeneration is not infinite it takes chakra. in conclusion they both have alot of chakra and are on the same level and it would be a hell of a fight that can go either way

 

[KingGolDragon]

They both mess each other up. . They were created to cancel each other out. But as far as i can tell Jiraya is the strongest and Oro = Tsunade. Jiraya has shown TOO MUCH trust in her strength for her to be that weak... and also Single handed was wooping on susano'os.... Jiraya's Sage mode = Tsunade's Regeneration = Oro's sage mode.


Just cause he does some experiments doesn't make him strong.

But yea Jiraya> Tsunade = Oro

jiraiya has a huge pool of chakra, so huge that the only person who had the chance to learn sage mode like him was naruto coz of the nine tails inside him. oro's regeneration is not infinite it takes chakra. in conclusion they both have alot of chakra and are on the same level and it would be a hell of a fight that can go either way

Naruto learned sage mode because of his own chakra nothing to do with the nine-tails. Naruto's own Chakra pool is bigger then Sasuke's and jiraya's

 

[robert31393]

you guys are forgetting that orochimaru is like immortal.this guy never dies.dont you remember when he went up against 4 tails naruto.he was just toying with naruto and he didnt even have his arms to begin with.jiraiya is a great fighter but he got a big scar on his chest and almost died when he fought demon naruto (he said it himself) so that gives me doubts about how strong he is.and everyone knows tsunade is just the most horrible shinobi there is.how is she the grand-daughter of the 1st and 2nd hokage and you cant even beat not one of pain's bodies.she got her ass kicked and ended up in a coma.its really crazy how she has senju dna and uzumaki dna but she is the weakest out of the other two sannins.naruto already surpassed her.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

They both mess each other up. . They were created to cancel each other out. But as far as i can tell Jiraya is the strongest and Oro = Tsunade. Jiraya has shown TOO MUCH trust in her strength for her to be that weak... and also Single handed was wooping on susano'os.... Jiraya's Sage mode = Tsunade's Regeneration = Oro's sage mode.


Just cause he does some experiments doesn't make him strong.

But yea Jiraya> Tsunade = Oro




Naruto learned sage mode because of his own chakra nothing to do with the nine-tails. Naruto's own Chakra pool is bigger then Sasuke's and jiraya's

then don't talk to me until you go back and read the manga again more carefully this time please :sy: naruto perfected SM coz he had more chakra than jiraiya thanks to the nine tails but his SM is still not as strong as jiraiya's (an experienced master with two other masters on his shoulders).

 

[Rafeal brown]

Edo tensei already places Oro above Jiraiya.... Sage mode and frog song is useless if you can't use it in time and it's quite funny how people try to use itachi's statement as a fact that jiraiya can stand a chance against him and kisame even after knowing the truth about itachi's life. NB never cease to amaze me...

 

[KingGolDragon]

then don't talk to me until you go back and read the manga again more carefully this time please :sy: naruto perfected SM coz he had more chakra than jiraiya thanks to the nine tails but his SM is still not as strong as jiraiya's (an experienced master with two other masters on his shoulders).

His Sage mode is infact better then Jiraya's and more Stronger.

Perfection = Stronger. And No go back again and read the Part 1. Its Already been stated that Naruto's own chakra pool is much bigger then Sasuke's or Sakura's. And its bigger then Jiraya's. Due to him being a Uzumaki. Uzumaki and Senju have the biggest Chakrapool. Nine-tails has nothing to do with the Sage mode.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Okay oro is the smartest hands dwn but in terms of strenth no way Tsunade would bang every snake out of him although he probably would kill her n the long run but for real the strongest was jiraya thats why tsunade poisoned him when they fought oro together and seriousully oro wouldnt of lasted five min against pain no way no who that probably y he quit the akatsuki lol on top off that he needed sumone elses help so he could attempt to try sage mode and he stole it from kabuto oro got skill though to survive this long in to make an impact on the ninja world like he did i give it to him

Wait wait wait
Tsuande poisened jariya simply because of two things she wanted to get away from him cuz he kept pestering her bout hokage thing and the second is to leave him with the bill cuz she cheap so what r u talkin bout?????

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

His Sage mode is infact better then Jiraya's and more Stronger.

Perfection = Stronger. And No go back again and read the Part 1. Its Already been stated that Naruto's own chakra pool is much bigger then Sasuke's or Sakura's. And its bigger then Jiraya's. Due to him being a Uzumaki. Uzumaki and Senju have the biggest Chakrapool. Nine-tails has nothing to do with the Sage mode.

why are you bringing up sasuke and sakura :sy: ?? i said don't talk to me unless you go back to the manga, perfection in the sense of that he can go to sage mode without ma and pa and he won't look like a frog coz of the huge chakra pool he has the kyubi, naruto got his ass handed to him against pain with the information jiraiya gave them until the nine tails came out while pain needed a plan to hide the six path specially the reviver to defeat jiraiya, and jiraiya killed three and made one body unusable with no information and odds against him . come on u can't be serious :sy:

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

ORO = weak to genjutsu
JMAN SM with MA&PA = sound genjutsu which even caught pain...

we can't say ORO > JMAN....

SM JMAN > BASE ORO (don't have SM)

What about hydra oro
Or true form oro u can't just take strongest form
Against weakest or common form and as for sm > base oro idk bout tht cuz oro still has edo tensi so....

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

jiraiya has a huge pool of chakra, so huge that the only person who had the chance to learn sage mode like him was naruto coz of the nine tails inside him. oro's regeneration is not infinite it takes chakra. in conclusion they both have alot of chakra and are on the same level and it would be a hell of a fight that can go either way

It's not about chakra pool smh is about weither ur body can absorb nature charka -__- u can hav terrible chakra reserves but if ur body can harness nature/sage chakra u gudd

And I beg to differ orochimaru chakra pOol seems if not the same size bigger then jariya's to me all three sannin have same amount of chakra and Thts saying how much they have seeing as tsuande is a senju ...

Orochimaru AT THE TIME couldn't get dragon sage mode cuz his CURRENT body rejected the sage chakra...
He just need a body tht will his original body couldve but who knows where Thts at

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

They both mess each other up. . They were created to cancel each other out. But as far as i can tell Jiraya is the strongest and Oro = Tsunade. Jiraya has shown TOO MUCH trust in her strength for her to be that weak... and also Single handed was wooping on susano'os.... Jiraya's Sage mode = Tsunade's Regeneration = Oro's sage mode.


Just cause he does some experiments doesn't make him strong.

But yea Jiraya> Tsunade = Oro




Naruto learned sage mode because of his own chakra nothing to do with the nine-tails. Naruto's own Chakra pool is bigger then Sasuke's and jiraya's

lol do some research before debating dude. He is clearly listed

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as a user.

I was wrong about tht I apologize but honestly what smart shinobi will fall for a shadow clone ....

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

It's not about chakra pool smh is about weither ur body can absorb nature charka -__- u can hav terrible chakra reserves but if ur body can harness nature/sage chakra u gudd

And I beg to differ orochimaru chakra pOol seems if not the same size bigger then jariya's to me all three sannin have same amount of chakra and Thts saying how much they have seeing as tsuande is a senju ...

Orochimaru AT THE TIME couldn't get dragon sage mode cuz his CURRENT body rejected the sage chakra...
He just need a body tht will his original body couldve but who knows where Thts at

bro go back to see and you will see that SM need skill and a huge pool of chakra otherwise you will find a hall lot of people in konoha with sage mode coz .... by your logic if your body can harness nature chakra your good :rofl::rofl::rofl: konoha has alot of shinobi and you can't tell me all their bodys can't harness nature chakra or what ever you wana call it :sy: naruto's nine tails was the key. oro didn't go that far to dragon mode with his weakend body. when i say that jiraiya and oro are on the same level i mean a healthy oro without your (imaginary oro of the dragon mode), you actually give a bad ass character like oro a bad name

 

[genii96]

Kabuto can't do edo tensi like he did b4 he might be able to do it but maybe like one body he was using orochimaru chakra to Do all tht that's why he captured anko to get more of oro chakra to further the edo tensi
Oro took his chakra back so we Dnt know how kabuto edo tensi would b but we can conclude if oro was to his lab gather up all this DNA and started doing edo tensi the allied shinobi forces would b ****ed as well as maybe Tobi (orochimaru seems to know a lot about him and sharigan in general but idk he might know Tobi secrets )

kabuto neede oro's chakra from anko because he was controlling so many edos at once,he dosent need that many to fight j-man's students,edo tensei is a tech that is learnt,oro didnt take tobirama's dna to use it right?. Besides,nagato and minato are dead anyway,so there is no point in bringing up oro taking his chakra back.
Anyhow,oro will crush jiraiya.