Madara Held Back

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From facts we know that Madara got Rinnegan shortly before his death, and also that he "died" at the Final Valley. So if that was his time of death then that means Madara had Rinnegan WHILE He was fightning Harashima, and didn't USE IT. Which means Madara HELD BACK which would mean mean by logic Madara>Harashima (Maybe) .

Logic: The Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan has been shown to be able to progress to the Rinnegan through unknown means. This was displayed by Madara Uchiha who noted that he was able to awaken this dōjutsu shortly before his death, which contrary to popular belief, did not occur at the battle at the Valley of the End. This fact was written on the Stone Monument of the Uchiha located in the Naka Shrine. (Narutopedia)



As to why he didnt use something like this in an "All Out Battle" . :confused:
 

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He didnt die at the final valley, everyone thought he did U_U
 

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Naah man, it was after the fight
 

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Your logic is shakey. He could have just as easily unlocked the rinnegan after being defeated but before he died.
 

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He could have awakened his rennigan after the fight. Some say that when you are close to dying you awaken the rennigan after the EMS. Sorta like you first awaken the sharingan
 

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He did soon after that on his deathbed. Then tobi talked to him and they probably came up with the Moon Eye Plan. Even with rinnengan, we can't assume that he would have beaten the 1st.
 

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Well Well Kishi has released the manga which shows whats happend at VOTE and no one in NB bothers to tell me . . . .
 
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if he did unlock it during the fight...what makes you think he didnt use it and still lose?
maybe by the time he got it, he didnt have enough chakra to use any rebirthing jutsu or something.
 

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From facts we know that Madara got Rinnegan shortly before his death, and also that he "died" at the Final Valley. So if that was his time of death then that means Madara had Rinnegan WHILE He was fightning Harashima, and didn't USE IT. Which means Madara HELD BACK which would mean mean by logic Madara>Harashima (Maybe) .

Logic: The Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan has been shown to be able to progress to the Rinnegan through unknown means. This was displayed by Madara Uchiha who noted that he was able to awaken this dōjutsu shortly before his death, which contrary to popular belief, did not occur at the battle at the Valley of the End. This fact was written on the Stone Monument of the Uchiha located in the Naka Shrine. (Narutopedia)



As to why he didnt use something like this in an "All Out Battle" . :confused:

shush paul please let it go the first won move on dang it:flaw:
 

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From what i heard is that an uchiha unlocks the rinnegan only if he has the last sharingan form and survives his own death. Also the eye itself is saying that from it's color: washed purple that tends to a grey white.
 
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if he did unlock it during the fight...what makes you think he didnt use it and still lose?
maybe by the time he got it, he didnt have enough chakra to use any rebirthing jutsu or something.

Like really you think, Hashirama could withstand the rinnegan .
 

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Hashirama won. Don't try and justify Madara getting his ass beat.
 

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Hashirama won. Don't try and justify Madara getting his ass beat.

Okayy please dont go there . because i would love to see Hashirama beat Madara now though. Can we say Slaughter !
 

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Well that explain why Madara need Hashirama's DNA, i kind agree with you Madara had the Perfect Susanoo and that thing looks unstoppable there is no way Hashirama Wood Release would be enough to stop that, Madara just want to fool that world by making everyone think he died. Kabuto himself explained how the Rinnegan is the evolution of the Sharingan Madara had EMS at that time he found a way to unlock the Rinnegan, but we still don't know how he did it, Maybe Sasuke will show us how Madara did it since he has EMS like Madara.
 
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From what i heard is that an uchiha unlocks the rinnegan only if he has the last sharingan form and survives his own death. Also the eye itself is saying that from it's color: washed purple that tends to a grey white.

whaaaaaat:confused:
 

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He did soon after that on his deathbed. Then tobi talked to him and they probably came up with the Moon Eye Plan. Even with rinnengan, we can't assume that he would have beaten the 1st.

iCan accept that, since Madara wouldnt have much time to master it . .
 
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