Gaara of the desert vs Hashirama Senju

[genii96]

lets see harashima cuz im sure at some time he defeated the sand village with all the wars he bested almost all the biuu im sure shukkaku was one and he has sand power and hashi knows more than wood jutsu he had aquired a scroll with various powerful jutsu s im pretty sure he know s more than just wood gaara s good but he s not that good this go s to Hashi :sy: another one why do you guys :sy:

actually hashirama died during the first or second shinobi war. And like all raw bijuus,the shukaku isnt smart enough to use it's powers. Look at the three tails,deidara beat it with a fish bomb bcos it cudnt use it's powers well. It's not like he fought all of them at once,he must have captured them one by one and sealed them with mito and her clan's help. Gaara's sand power is bijuu level control,and he can use his powers perfectly.

Also,hashirama used wood release as his fighting style mostly,we dont know any other scrolls or techs he used so we can't make assumptions.

I'd say gaara wins,cuz we saw hashi fight hiruzen,and he wasnt impressive at all.:sy:

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

actually hashirama died during the first or second shinobi war. And like all raw bijuus,the shukaku isnt smart enough to use it's powers. Look at the three tails,deidara beat it with a fish bomb bcos it cudnt use it's powers well. It's not like he fought all of them at once,he must have captured them one by one and sealed them with mito and her clan's help. Gaara's sand power is bijuu level control,and he can use his powers perfectly.

Also,hashirama used wood release as his fighting style mostly,we dont know any other scrolls or techs he used so we can't make assumptions.

I'd say gaara wins,cuz we saw hashi fight hiruzen,and he wasnt impressive at all.:sy:

the fight was nerfed 3rd is good but to fight the hashi and tobi and that was early before they actively completed majority of past people profile otherwise orochi be sitting in the ashes of the leaf village with the sharingan in his eyes and a glass of tea while sitting on jiraiya s corpse laughing

 

[narutownsyouall]

yoe are the fool here,just because you can't bring an argument you start insulting others. Well,of all his hype,he got beat by old hiruzen as an edo,sorry bud,that's cannon. You use the fact that ut is hashirama gaara is fighting to make it seem like he is a god,you are just using hype to cover the fact that you have no way to counter anything and ignoring the fact that edo hashi was far from impressive:flaw:

Hiruzen is more powerful than Hashirama and Garra.
You are so dumb you're a joke hahaha!

 

[narutownsyouall]

no actually it is uchiha madara's. note the fact madara made it. note the fact madara is THERE with an immortal unlimited stamina body

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actually gaara slaughters that featless fodder
exactly. imagine what he can do now


he faced it before. madara

hashirama grew a few trees and hiruzen reacted to it. he even needed a hand seal.

tsunade can do that too. and gaaras sand clone actully fooled mizukage into thinking it was real onoki. take that

irrelevant as hashirama was a bad matchup for kyuubi and turned it on madara. we dont know what ems madara was capable of or how the fight actually happened. but based on what we know gaara wins

which is also a feat we know nothin about since we didnt see how he managed to do it.

lol of course he can. in a desert vs ems madara, madara should say goodbye cos he is going to be sunken into the ground and sealed in a pyramid.

no he isnt

chapter 500: during the battle, hashirama gained the kyuubi and in order to aid him mito sealed it into herself. why didnt hashirama just use kyuubi on madara if he gained control of it? clearly it was too much for him.

hashirama has no feats besides being raped by old hiruzen. gaaras feats of lifting city sized sand walls surpass anything hashirama showed as an edo

just because you dont need hand signs doesnt mean its better than someone who DOES use signs. nothing suggests hashirama is good at it because we havent seen him do anything like that.

itachi couldnt tell kakashi apart from his clone. so i guess kakashis clones are god tier

the only direct descendants are his sons. beyond that, the bloodline got majorly diluted. unless senjus committed creepy incest for centuries. show me some examples of how he has large stamina.

according to people who didnt even live in that era. sometimes the strongest shinobis are ones hiding in remote smaller villages. the world at large thought sannin were the best of the best. but the fact is prime nagato was around too.
just because he was the only one who DID end up beating him with mitos help doesnt mean hes the only one who COULD

no it isnt

exhausted from previous battles, not in his best advantageous location, madara being on a completely different level to how he was against hashirama etc

So beating Uchiha Madara is not a feat?

I am not even going to argue I used to think you just trolled but now I think you are an actual idiot.

 

[genii96]

Hiruzen is more powerful than Hashirama and Garra.
You are so dumb you're a joke hahaha!

whether old hiruzen is stronger than gaara is for another thread. But gaara without being an edo will do much much better than what hashirama did.

I know it hurts being owned,just because i countered everything you've said multiple times,you have started using insults. Being owned isnt funny,but you dont have to be a b*tch about itxdxd.

 

[genii96]

So beating Uchiha Madara is not a feat?

I am not even going to argue I used to think you just trolled but now I think you are an actual idiot.

beating madara is a feat for hashirama. Beating joki boy's clone is also a feat for gaara,being that they are the only ones to accomplish that feat. Hashirama can't best joki boy's clone at all can he?. Madara isnt gaara,you said old hiruzen was stronger than hashirama,yet ems madara would beat old hiruzen,but lost to hashirama. And using insults again just proves how right i am,if you can't debate get lostxd

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

u 2 need to PM each other ur arguments are becoming rather as Shikamaru says TROUBLESOME! ive see n gaara he s good but not at that level and if he s not in the desert he has really no chance against Hashi . as for all his feats against madara lets see i recall its 5 vs 1 lets see him 1 v1 madara we all know how that will turn out y do u think they never did a rock paper scissors like goku gohan and vegeta ? because they knew he would crush them also cuz i think he told them to:shrug::shrug::sy::sy:WTH

 

[JesusRey11]

Hashirama should not be underestimated. Gaara is very powerful, but we have to remember that Gaara along with the other four current Kages has not been able to defeat the one man who Hashirama pretty much left dead by himself.
I give this victory to Hashirama.

 

[Normal fanboy]

if you wanna go by hype, gaara's the regimental commander of the allied shinobi army, kazekage of current suna (and therefore stronger than the likes of chiyo and kankuro), and according to naruto, he possesses the best defence in the world. hashiramas a dead fairy tale in a desert location and even then he can form a defensive sphere and wait till hes grinded up enough sand out of the minerals in the ground to control the battlefield and trap hashirama under his feet. wood wont save him from the entire ground collapsing and surging in sand tsunamis. even without a desert, gaara makes sand out of the very ground hashirama's standing on

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none of the kages are full power. gaara would gank him but hes exhausted from fighting in the war against 3 kages one after the other, and is having to protect mei and onoki. madara never denied being flung from susano and being pushed to rinnegan by two exhausted kages and naruto. and he admitted they pushed him into a corner. gaara hasnt been hurt by madara but that could just be madara not getting serious yet. plus its easy for him to say, being an edo with unlimited chakra. he should have already lost when he killed himself with meteors. which gaara freaking survived

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. his sand has withstood amaterasu, C3, steam tyranny, madara's yagata missiles, kimimaro's bone spear as sharp as steel, and even meteors. all while gaara is trying to protect comrades.

wrong. gaara wins this. when he wasnt in the desert and 12 years old, he sent kimimaro 200m below the earth

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. and even if hashirama gets through, gaara protects himself with sand armour. in the war he hasnt actually been hurt by anything save mizukage's oil. the onyl thing to get through it has been deidara's blast element and sasukes chidori. hashirama lacks penetrating or explosive power to get through the armour.
in addition, gaaras able to use henge + kage bunshin in a way that only naruto could match in skill. he did this to fool mizukage into thinking he'd defeated onoki. gaara's uncommonly smart in battle.

rereading the fight, gaara has only used sand when protecting his fellow kage, and when they call on him to seal madara. gaara is also exhausted from the war vs edo kages and needed tsunade to heal his injuries briefly. this wouldnt restore the bijuu level chakra that gaara possesses. so you have a very weakened gaara who's still able to make giant pyramids to seal madara's clone inside.

hm..if so gaara has still been performing giant pyramid jutsus in a battlefield thats been changed to a field of rock and trees. so that wouldnt hold him back too much. he can fight with whats in his gourd, and grind up minerals to make more.

madara said "they are nothing compared to you" when talking about very weakened tired kages fighting an invincible immortal who was pushed into rinnegan and had several of his EMS attacks blocked.

well since people take kabutos opinion as fact then no one can beat kimimaro

gaara initially escaped by having to protect his kages and make them fly up with him. madaras giant susano fist knocked them down into the pollen.

the force of being hit by a tree branch being compared with an invincible immortal's susano fist? please GTFO. besides gaara can form his complete defensive sphere and nothing will be knocking him out of the sky

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deidara likened it to an eggshell protecting a baby.

of course gaara wins. theres nothing hashirama can do against his perfect defence which has already withstood stronger attacks than anything in hashirama's arsenal. gaara flies as well as controls the battlefield below once hes ground up the minerals in the earth. when not in the desert he was able to stand against sasukes susano while protecting everyone in the summit and hes already attacked the kages immediately after confronting them and overpowered his father. hashirama cant if sand is flying in his face and suffocating his throat. and he cant make seals or fight if his limbs are restrained by sand before he can do anything. it takes time to make trees as large as what madara did. we saw this with the pathetic scale of hashirama's jutsus vs hiruzen. he should have owned hiruzen instantly with how his nativity of world of trees has been utilized in part 2. meaning hes been surpassed. hiruzen smashed his way out with enma. gaara can make his sand hard enough to block kimimaro's bones which were just as hard and sharp as steel. and it was hard enough to save his village from deidara's C3 nuke.
and his chakra is uncommonly gigantic. consider hes done all that hes done in the war while maintaining his chakra draining sand armour which kankuro has stated is his only weakness. how strong do you have to be when your only weakness is your own jutsus making you tired and slower? speeds not an issue anyway since gaaras style is pretty stationary.
hell gaara's signature style is just getting close enough to crush his opponent in a coffin of sand. bloodlusted gaara would do that immediately. and he doesnt have to make trees. he has his sand already prepared in his gourd. hashiramas never seen a jutsu remotely like this after all.

Now this guy makes sense of things and back it all up with logic respect.:itachi:

 

[genii96]

Hashirama should not be underestimated. Gaara is very powerful, but we have to remember that Gaara along with the other four current Kages has not been able to defeat the one man who Hashirama pretty much left dead by himself.
I give this victory to Hashirama.

that was EMS Madara hashirama fought,the kages are foghting EDO madara who has hashirama's power,immortality,unlimited chakra,rinnegan techs and his sharingan. You think hashirama could beat that?

 

[JesusRey11]

that was EMS Madara hashirama fought,the kages are foghting EDO madara who has hashirama's power,immortality,unlimited chakra,rinnegan techs and his sharingan. You think hashirama could beat that?

Hashirama didn't even beat him the first time. Madara didn't die and instead received Hashirama's powers, but Madara himself said to the kages that the only man they could ever hope to defeat him was already dead; rather against them in a sense. Plus he had healing abilities that were better than Tsunade's. The only advantage I see Gaara having is the battlefield, which I'm sure Hashirama could turn into a forest. No sand coffin or desert burial could keep Hashirama trapped.

 

[narutownsyouall]

This is jut fun!!

Hashirama was able to beat Madara Uchiha and the Kyuubi at the same time.
Tell me one feat better than that, that Garra has done. He was chosen as commander because he was the most logical choice out of 5 people.

Hashirama was considered the strongest of his time by The current most powerful man (Madara).

Garra's main ability is to Move sand.
His strategy usually being that he will constrict and crush his opponents.
He can use sand around an enemy to grab them often surprising them.

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This is his main way of attacking and strategy.
He also has been considered one of the best people when it comes to defense. Which can be beat by Speed attacks or overwhelming force.
He has sand clones that are Easily beat and are made for distraction.



Hashirama has Mokuton
Which is used to change the battleground, Create forests, Attack head on with powerful force.

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He also can use it to make clones that are indistinguishable unless you have advanced Dojutsu (EMS,Rinnegan)
These clones all have the same capabilities as the original and are much more durable than Shadow clones.
He also Has control of the battleground being able to move land and build forests in an instant. He also has the flower world which has pollen that can put people to sleep.

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Now Garra can fly but he has no sensing abilities that will help him distinguish the difference between clone and Hashirama. And with the battlefield changed into The flower world how will he even find him? The third eye is good but it can not distinguish between what is clone and not.



Garra has much less chakra now that he no longer is a jinchiriki
And has shown exhaustion after only a few fights with 2 Kage.

Hashirama has The body of a Senju which means huge Chakra reserves and a strong life force. He also can Heal on command.
Garra's main way of beating an opponent is to suffocate or crush them.
Hashirama's ability to grow mokuton from his body and heal from injury makes both of these attacks methods useless. If Garra were to capture him he can simply burst out of the sand with the mokuton from his body to separate the sand. Also his healing will allow him to keep from being killed by any small attacks garra might give off.
Hashirama also has BOD which is easy to get off when near an opponent and Garra has never shown to be able to force quit a powerful Genjutsu.

And you guys can say that Garra can drown a forest but Hashirama's Tree's were much larger than any average tree you guys have been talking about.
He can create an entire forest more than once whith massive chakra reserves Whil Garra tires after a little while of Fighting and with Hashirama's abilities to change the battlefield into something dangerous for his opponent Garra will need to use a lot of Sand to block and defend against Hashirama's attacks and he will need to use massive sand waves to counter Nativity of flowering trees which is Hashirama's most basic attack and even then a sand wave will be near useless against it. When you shove a stick in the ground it pierces the ground easily right and the and will just travel around the trees and be divided and hard to pull together for a efficient attack.
And take in mind that Garra will not be just fighting Hashirama he will have to fight 5+ clones. Even Garra can not overcome those odds.

And even in hype and Feats Hashirama dominates Gaara.

He Bested Madara Uchiha and The Kyuubi at the same time.(feat)
He was considered a Fairy tale. Madara Has hyped him beyond belief saying not even the 5 Kage's combined were Equal to him(hype)

I'm sorry if you guys think Gaara would win but as soon as we see The Madara and Hashirama fight this will be a no brainer. You guys like to come up with stuff for no good reason just to argue about pointless things and Hashirama is considered to be more powerful than just about everyone.
Hashirama is beyond Gaara.

 

[sasori345]

To be more fair you should change title to Gaara vs Hashirama's clone
But still Hashirama's clone win low difficulty .
They are not in the same league.

 

[narutownsyouall]

Hashirama's clone low difficulty .

Thanks. Awesome avatar!!! Seriously that really cool!

 

[MinatoFLASH]

I am going by hype?

Mokuton which is feared and can control tailed beasts.

Healing without hand signs.

Near perfect clone's that can not be distinguished except with EMS

Massive chakra reserves and a direct descendant of SO6P

Was the only man who could face and Beat Madara Uchiha

Held the title of Hokage which is Usually the strongest of all Kage

If garra is so powerful why has he yet to beat Madara Uchiha?
Why is Madara Uchiha not praising him?

You guys are so dumb it's gross.

None of the things u listed explain how gaara would lose. But I know gaara doesn't stand a chance against current Madara who is much stronger than hashirama but with hashis healing and stuff he should be able to beat Gaara maybe even in a desert. But I'm just saying that u should explain how he would kill Gaara instead of listing things that hype him. Pollen won't work if he surrounds himself with sand ball lol.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

This is jut fun!!

Hashirama was able to beat Madara Uchiha and the Kyuubi at the same time.
Tell me one feat better than that, that Garra has done. He was chosen as commander because he was the most logical choice out of 5 people.

Hashirama was considered the strongest of his time by The current most powerful man (Madara).

Garra's main ability is to Move sand.
His strategy usually being that he will constrict and crush his opponents.
He can use sand around an enemy to grab them often surprising them.

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This is his main way of attacking and strategy.
He also has been considered one of the best people when it comes to defense. Which can be beat by Speed attacks or overwhelming force.
He has sand clones that are Easily beat and are made for distraction.



Hashirama has Mokuton
Which is used to change the battleground, Create forests, Attack head on with powerful force.

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He also can use it to make clones that are indistinguishable unless you have advanced Dojutsu (EMS,Rinnegan)
These clones all have the same capabilities as the original and are much more durable than Shadow clones.
He also Has control of the battleground being able to move land and build forests in an instant. He also has the flower world which has pollen that can put people to sleep.

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Now Garra can fly but he has no sensing abilities that will help him distinguish the difference between clone and Hashirama. And with the battlefield changed into The flower world how will he even find him? The third eye is good but it can not distinguish between what is clone and not.



Garra has much less chakra now that he no longer is a jinchiriki
And has shown exhaustion after only a few fights with 2 Kage.

Hashirama has The body of a Senju which means huge Chakra reserves and a strong life force. He also can Heal on command.
Garra's main way of beating an opponent is to suffocate or crush them.
Hashirama's ability to grow mokuton from his body and heal from injury makes both of these attacks methods useless. If Garra were to capture him he can simply burst out of the sand with the mokuton from his body to separate the sand. Also his healing will allow him to keep from being killed by any small attacks garra might give off.
Hashirama also has BOD which is easy to get off when near an opponent and Garra has never shown to be able to force quit a powerful Genjutsu.

And you guys can say that Garra can drown a forest but Hashirama's Tree's were much larger than any average tree you guys have been talking about.
He can create an entire forest more than once whith massive chakra reserves Whil Garra tires after a little while of Fighting and with Hashirama's abilities to change the battlefield into something dangerous for his opponent Garra will need to use a lot of Sand to block and defend against Hashirama's attacks and he will need to use massive sand waves to counter Nativity of flowering trees which is Hashirama's most basic attack and even then a sand wave will be near useless against it. When you shove a stick in the ground it pierces the ground easily right and the and will just travel around the trees and be divided and hard to pull together for a efficient attack.
And take in mind that Garra will not be just fighting Hashirama he will have to fight 5+ clones. Even Garra can not overcome those odds.

And even in hype and Feats Hashirama dominates Gaara.

He Bested Madara Uchiha and The Kyuubi at the same time.(feat)
He was considered a Fairy tale. Madara Has hyped him beyond belief saying not even the 5 Kage's combined were Equal to him(hype)

I'm sorry if you guys think Gaara would win but as soon as we see The Madara and Hashirama fight this will be a no brainer. You guys like to come up with stuff for no good reason just to argue about pointless things and Hashirama is considered to be more powerful than just about everyone.
Hashirama is beyond Gaara.

This is great dude but hashi didn't beat madara and Kyuubi at the same time.

 

[narutownsyouall]

None of the things u listed explain how gaara would lose. But I know gaara doesn't stand a chance against current Madara who is much stronger than hashirama but with hashis healing and stuff he should be able to beat Gaara maybe even in a desert. But I'm just saying that u should explain how he would kill Gaara instead of listing things that hype him. Pollen won't work if he surrounds himself with sand ball lol.

I did in my huge Post.

This is great dude but hashi didn't beat madara and Kyuubi at the same time.

Hashirama did though. It said it in the manga.

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Confirmed here.

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And If you're a Mito believer Remember that Madara has not said One thing about her being in the fight.
So Hashirama>Madara+Kyuubi.

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

Make it in the desert, it will be a good fight

 

[genii96]

Hashirama was able to beat Madara Uchiha and the Kyuubi at the same time.

For the last time,moukton controls tailed beasts,gaara dosent have a tailed beast to control,madara and gaara fight differently.

Tell me one feat better than that, that Garra has done. He was chosen as commander because he was the most logical choice out of 5 people.

Oh,so now you are downplaying the fact that gaara became commander at 16 because he was logical?. Hashirama overcame the kyubi because of his moukton beng able to supress pure chakra,like bijuus and a susanoo,hashirama had the right moveset to beat madara,just like gaara had the right moveset to beat jokey boy's clone,something that neither muu nor hashi can do. This is naruto,not dbz,skillset matters here,not just power,hashirama might be more powerful,but gaara has the skills to take him on.

Hashirama has Mokuton
Which is used to change the battleground, Create forests, Attack head on with powerful force.

Gaara has sand which changes the battlefield too,infact it took little time to do it at 13,check how many panels it took to transform a beattlefield into a sand box in his fight with kimimaro when they started fighting,infact,gaara started making more sand after kimi broke loose of his sand burial,which is why he even started making more sand so as to increase the pressure of his attacks. Then estimate how long it would take for current gaara to change the area into a sandbox. In his first attack,he didnt use any time,he just attacked them instantely,and the area was a rocky terrain. No amount of wood is breaking through gaara's defence with force aloneU_U


He also can use it to make clones that are indistinguishable unless you have advanced Dojutsu (EMS,Rinnegan)
These clones all have the same capabilities as the original and are much more durable than Shadow clones.

Gaara has sand clones which are able to use sand techniques as well,and they are just as indistinguishable as the wood clone,gaara can hide tools in them,they can change their form to sand at will,they are not only more durable,but can reform easily,and capture their attacker.

He also Has control of the battleground being able to move land and build forests in an instant. He also has the flower world which has pollen that can put people to sleep.

Controlling the environment is gaara's specialty,gaara can fly over flower world easily like he did before,since hashi has no attack which can knock gaara back down

Now Garra can fly but he has no sensing abilities that will help him distinguish the difference between clone and Hashirama. And with the battlefield changed into The flower world how will he even find him? The third eye is good but it can not distinguish between what is clone and not.

Gaara has sand sensing,and he found muu who had no chakra signature at all,something that a sharingan can't do.gaara has sand clones which hashi can't tell from the real thing as well.

Garra has much less chakra now that he no longer is a jinchiriki
And has shown exhaustion after only a few fights with 2 Kage.

He fought 3 edo kages one after the other,2 had his greatest weaknesses as their jutsus,he protected his comrades at the same time,saved onoki twice,had his sand armour on,was forced to find a hidden clam,found it,bested joki boy,fought muu,has been fighting for 2 days straight.gaara has far more chakra now,cuz he never even used shukaku's chakra at all in part 2.

If Garra were to capture him he can simply burst out of the sand with the mokuton from his body to separate the sand.Hashirama also has BOD which is easy to get off when near an opponent.

Making wood from his body isnt gonna save him from a pyramid,which madara used ps to escape. How will hashi get near him when he is flying?,and sand sensing makes BOD useless,cuz gaara found an invsible muu with it who had no chakra to sense.

Hashirama's Tree's were much larger than any average tree you guys have been talking about.

Gaara was 13 when he drowned a large forest,current gaara will drown hashi's own.

and with Hashirama's abilities to change the battlefield into something dangerous for his opponent Garra will need to use a lot of Sand to block and defend against Hashirama's attacks.

Gaara's sand is auto,he dosent have to worry about that.Controlling the environment is gaara's thing as well.

When you shove a stick in the ground it pierces the ground easily
gaara's sand shield is many times heavier than steel as already proven.
And take in mind that Garra will not be just fighting Hashirama he will have to fight 5 clones.

Gaara makes 5 clones of his own.

Madara Has hyped him beyond belief saying not even the 5 Kage's combined were Equal to him
the 5 kages will beat hashi easily.xd

I'm sorry if you guys think Gaara would win but as soon as we see The Madara and Hashirama fight this will be a no brainer.

maybe,but till then,his actual batlling behind his great hype were pitifil.U_U

 

[AmaniPaz]

Hashirama based on hype.