nope. he corrected himself, saying they are kages worthy of the title and showed them his true power as a reward. also gaara was highly exhausted and not in his home field. dont call kage-fight gaara prime gaaraGaara would lose easily hashi would destroy him Madara said it himself the 5 kage,are no where near the level of the first
sand restrained third raikage and 4th kazekage combinedSand restrained KN4 before?
theres the problem with pollen wank. why didnt he kill madara with this?If Hashirama uses flower world immediately after B.O.D ,Gaara wont even know the flowers are there let alone try and avoid them.
lolsWood> Sand
with what?Hashirama will pawn Gaara
can you tell me what that power is?Hashirama according to Madara possess the power to stop him
and if that object steps on sand covering a battlefield wont gaara know where they are?Sensor sand CANNOT help you if are trapped in genjutsu...
It only helps LOCATE a object.
because madara >>>>>>>>>>hashiReally? gaara can even defeat madara why bring hashi.
wrongHashirama no diff.
If they fight in the desert Hashirama mid diff.
wrong. rinnegan madara by feats curbstomps and rips him apart especially as an edo tensei.Hashirama is stronger than Madara
weakened kages with 1 armed raikage and katsyu -less tsunade. gaaras not in his home locationMadara is stronger than the 5 Kage.
while they were already weakened/handicapped, and fightig him when he has immortality and unlimited chakra. dont compare that madara to alive madara.Show you how? No, but it's confirmed fact that he did, and Perfect Susano'o is crapping on all 5 kages incluyding Gaara and 4 other top tiers simultaneously.
because they arent needed. onoki or gaara solosAll of those Kages fighting Hashirama at the same time don't even stand a chance
if its a puny game how come hes used all these massive ninjutsus like 25 susanos? your an imbecile.All of them at once, whom Madara compared his fight with Hashirama to. Except theirs was "a puny little game" in comparison
he kills hashirama before that is used by sinking him into the ground with sand. gaaras seen flower world before and wont fall for it. he has sensing to counter darknessHow does Gaara stop:
Bringer of Darkness jutsu
Flower jutsu
pollen stays low to the ground. hashi has no shown fuutonPollen travels through air.
scans of hashi creating a forestThe man can create a forest.
how can he instant self heal his throat and legs being crushed and torn off? if he can it eats a ton of chakra. or gaara suffocates him. cant heal throat being blocked off.Hashi can counter sand with earth + instant self heal
no he cant. not once has he ever been shown doing this. so therefore its impossible for him to do it as we cant use speculation in a debateAlso, Hashirama can create a forest in a second, I don't think Gaara can change the area into a desert as fast as Hashirama can.
so haku had suiton and fuuton?Hashi has earth and water lol. The wood is a kg
SO DOES GAARA IMBECILEHashi has the ability to change the landscape at will
you stil havent proven how if its so OP how it didnt defeat uchiha madaraAnd you still have no counter for the pollen.
he still sinks into the ground. sand can grind up trees.Hashirama doesn't evade a sand tsunami, he just counters it with a forest. If the sand goes higher than the trees, then Hashirama grows the trees even more.
first of all,you think naruto could use chakra arms to pull itachi out of his susanoo in km mode,you think sakura yamato and a km clone can hold tobi and you are calling him a troll?Hashirama does not even break a sweat.
If you guys want to sit there and Say Garra can change the battlefield and sit there and beat Hashi then here.
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This is Garra's ability to change the field.
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This is Hashirama's
Now USSJ i know you're a troll but Listen to this guy considering he knows more than you ever will.
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Hashirama wins no problem.
When he was 13 and Had 1 tails.first of all,you think naruto could use chakra arms to pull itachi out of his susanoo in km mode,you think sakura yamato and a km clone can hold tobi and you are calling him a troll?
That gaara post wasnt a serious attack at all,why dont you read the page before that and see that gaara wanted to 'test' their response,and look how big it was, and for the record a sand tsunami turned a complete forest to a sandbox when he was 13,his sand tsunami will squash any forest hashirama can make.
Moukton supresses and controls raw chakra for goodness sake,thatis how he controlled tailed beasts,that is how yamato can supress kn4 naruto. Kakashi can't supress naruto alone,are you saying yamato is stronger?. Susanoo is pure chakra,it is naturally weak to moukton. Hashi was a bad matchup for ems madara. For goodness sake we saw old hiruzen beat EDO hashirama and his brother didnt we?,or are you going to ignore that one?, EDO madara when he was using only ems,was manhandled by a weakened gaara with a weakened shadow clone!!!!.
Gaara flies above flower world,hashi can't hit him like madara,he isnt carryin 4 people,so he can move as he likes to dodge his attacks,he can fly far above and use his 3rd eye to attack hashirama, bringer of darkness is the same procedure as clam genjutsu,it blinds your ability to see your opponent,sensor sand easilt escapes that,or third eye does the trick. And sand>wood anytime.
gaara didnt use the one tails chakra against kimi,your point is invalid,he used his own chakra to do that at 13,shukaku had nothing to do with it.the fact that gaara could change the landscape easily at 13,means doing it again now is a piece of cakeWhen he was 13 and Had 1 tails.
And this forest is nothing.
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Compared to this.
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And if he could do it why didn't he??
Seriously why did he not just cover it in sand?
Where did Yamato come from? I didn't even say his name.
Did you just say that Garra manhandled him??? You are a dumbass. What part of the beginning was Madara being serious at? NONE. If he used PS from the beginning Garra would have been fodderized.
How does Garra know what the pollen would do?
And Hashirama can grow a tree faster than Garra can fly.
Oh and Hashirama can heal without hand seals. Oh and he can make clones that are indistinguishable except with EMS.
Oh and his chakra reserves were much much larger.
Hashirama would not even sweat in fact he would rape.
You know I could make a really long explanation as to why you are wrong on 100 different levels but I have a life. I am bored of talking to you because your like a wall. All you do is stay the same and don't allow yourself to move. Hashirama beat Madara Uchiha which is a feat that Only 1 person surpasses. By the way that is Hiruzen. And Hiruzen is much more powerful than Hashirama. Garra can not even stand against Madara. Even though he has similar attacks to Hashirama, Hashirama is so much stronger he overwhelms Garra. Every person on the base knows this and you are either dumb or a troll. Sogaara didnt use the one tails chakra against kimi,your point is invalid,he used his own chakra to do that at 13,shukaku had nothing to do with it.the fact that gaara could change the landscape easily at 13,means doing it again now is a piece of cake
Gaara had been fighting for long with his sand armour active,just tanked a meteor and was drained,and was low on chakra. If he was fresh,he wud've levelled that forest with his sand tsunami.
You people keep using moukton's ability to control and supress pure chakra as an excuse to compare to gaara,moukton supresses chakra,tailed beasts are chakra monsters,susanoo is pure chakra,both are succeptable to moukton,gaara's sand is not.
Whose fault is it that madara underestimated gaara and wasnt serious?,he got his ass pulled out of his susanoo and almost cut in half by a completely drained gaara and a weakened shadow clone,that is cannon,nobody told him to underestimate them,and it dosen't matter if he could have used ps,he didnt and almost got wrecked with his ems jutsus,the fact that madara is a pompous brat is his own fault.
Gaara has already seen the pollen you dumbas,even if he didnt know,you think he would let himself be trapped inside a forest?,and gaara flew away carrying 4 kages pretty fast after madara used the pollen,here he is carrying himself and he can fly before hashi can use his moukton.
So what if hashi can use wood clones? Gaara can easily use sand clones which are perfect as well to the point of taking the shape of others. Gaara can easily make sand clones to handle his wood clones,his sand sensing found muu who had no chakra signature at all,which means even an ems wont see him cuz there is nothing there,finding hashi isnt gonna be hard.
Hashirama healing without handseals is worthless to a sand burial,desert funeral,sand prison etc,cuz there wont be much left of him to heal. Tsunade is a senju isnt she and is also a descendant of the uzumaki as well? Her chakra in the 3rd databook is a 4,while gaara in the second is a 5. So hashirama dosent have much much more chakra than gaara,madara claimed his healing and tsunade were similar,meaning he could have a seal as well. Whatever tha case,outlasting isnt an option here.
I love how you keep ignoring the fact that an old hiruzen beat an edo hashirama and his brother, that is cannon. Going by hype gaara is a 15 year old kage,as well as the regional commander of the entire allied shinobi forces,he has the hype to take on hashirama. Hashirama got beat as an edo by an old man,not very impressive. Gaara wins high diff.U_U
cannon fact,old hiruzen beat edo hashirama,the only actual fighting we have seen from him despite all his hypexd,and he got mauled by an old man,despite having his edo brother at his side. You just said old hiruzen is much stronger than hashi,that's proof enough gaara can beat hashi. You say that naruto can drag itachi out of his susanoo with his chakra arms and sakura and yamato can occupy tobi and you call me dumbYou know I could make a really long explanation as to why you are wrong on 100 different levels but I have a life. I am bored of talking to you because your like a wall. All you do is stay the same and don't allow yourself to move. Hashirama beat Madara Uchiha which is a feat that Only 1 person surpasses. By the way that is Hiruzen. And Hiruzen is much more powerful than Hashirama. Garra can not even stand against Madara. Even though he has similar attacks to Hashirama, Hashirama is so much stronger he overwhelms Garra. Every person on the base knows this and you are either dumb or a troll. So![]()
Hiruzen is stronger than Garra so is Madara. You are making no sense. Hiruzen old would stomp Garra.cannon fact,old hiruzen beat edo hashirama,the only actual fighting we have seen from him despite all his hypexd,and he got mauled by an old man,despite having his edo brother at his side. You just said old hiruzen is much stronger than hashi,that's proof enough gaara can beat hashi. You say that naruto can drag itachi out of his susanoo with his chakra arms and sakura and yamato can occupy tobi and you call me dumb. It's cool that you can't find anything else to say,oh and mito was there as well and helped seal the kurama. The fact that you called me and ussj trolls simply bcos we countered everything you could think of is proof enough that you can't think of anything else to say. Yea hashi with the help of mito beat ems madara as an accomplishement which no man has done. Guess what? Gaara became kage at 15,who has done that?,the regional commander of the allied ninjas at 16,whose done that?,found the weakness to jokey boy in minutes,something that muu in his lifetime wasnt able to do. Hashi got beaten by an old hiruzen,that is manga fact,that is cannon,that is the closest we have seen hashi fight. And you can't make a wall of text cuz i'll just counter you again. It's cool bro
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Agreed he cant face the facts he just goes by hype.cannon fact,old hiruzen beat edo hashirama,the only actual fighting we have seen from him despite all his hypexd,and he got mauled by an old man,despite having his edo brother at his side. You just said old hiruzen is much stronger than hashi,that's proof enough gaara can beat hashi. You say that naruto can drag itachi out of his susanoo with his chakra arms and sakura and yamato can occupy tobi and you call me dumb. It's cool that you can't find anything else to say,oh and mito was there as well and helped seal the kurama. The fact that you called me and ussj trolls simply bcos we countered everything you could think of is proof enough that you can't think of anything else to say. Yea hashi with the help of mito beat ems madara as an accomplishement which no man has done. Guess what? Gaara became kage at 15,who has done that?,the regional commander of the allied ninjas at 16,whose done that?,found the weakness to jokey boy in minutes,something that muu in his lifetime wasnt able to do. Hashi got beaten by an old hiruzen,that is manga fact,that is cannon,that is the closest we have seen hashi fight. And you can't make a wall of text cuz i'll just counter you again. It's cool bro
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I am going by hype?Agreed he cant face the facts he just goes by hype.
Gaara hasnt been hyped up much lately so he thinks that Gaara doesnt stand a chance. TBH though i dont think Gaara can beat Hashi just because he was considered to have godlike powers.
hiruzen tromped edo hashirama,then tell me,what could hiruzen to do perfect susanoo?,nothing buthashi beat it right?. This is all about matchups you moron,ems madara will stomp old hiruzen,hashi beat madara,hiruzen beat hashi. It is about tools,hashi had the tools to beat madara,hiruzen had the tools to eat hashi and so does gaara. You just shot yourself in the head you boneheadHiruzen is stronger than Garra so is Madara. You are making no sense. Hiruzen old would stomp Garra.
Naruto can explain how he could not. I explained how he could. Oh wait you can't!
Show me where it says that Mito helped him. Because that is not in the manga. So do not make shit up.
Hashirama beat Madara Uchiha which is a feat greater than anything Garra has done.
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yoe are the fool here,just because you can't bring an argument you start insulting others. Well,of all his hype,he got beat by old hiruzen as an edo,sorry bud,that's cannon. You use the fact that ut is hashirama gaara is fighting to make it seem like he is a god,you are just using hype to cover the fact that you have no way to counter anything and ignoring the fact that edo hashi was far from impressive:flaw:I am going by hype?
Mokuton which is feared and can control tailed beasts.
Gaara isnt a tailed beast,this is useless,his sand is feared and respected as well. Infact his sand abilities have had him known as 'gaara of the desert' or 'gaara of the sand waterfall',just like hashi had his'wood style hashirama' name. His sand defences have had peole callin it the ultimate defence as well.
Healing without hand signs.
Gaara controls his sand without handsigns,and healing is useless to a sand burial,cuz there wont be much left to heal fromxd
Near perfect clone's that can not be distinguished except with EMS
gaara's clones are near perfect as well,or haven't you seen them in the war arc?if he makes wod clones,gaara makes sand clones. And gaara can make those sand clones in an instant and without handsigns too.
Massive chakra reserves and a direct descendant of SO6P
gaara has a tremendous chakra reserve as well. His chakra was so strong that akamaru had a near mental breakdown when it sensed his chakra.he was only 12
Was the only man who could face and Beat Madara Uchiha
gaara was the only person to face and beat troll kage's clone which could explode indefinately. Hashi can't do that,could ems madara do that as well?.
Held the title of Hokage which is Usually the strongest of all Kage
so tsunade is the strongest kage?,gaara became kage at 15. And onoki himself claimed all the other kages respect his power when they were talkin to gaara's dad
If garra is so powerful why has he yet to beat Madara Uchiha?
Why is Madara Uchiha not praising him?
Is he fighting ems madara?,he is fightig EDO madara you fool,edo madara will shit on hashi.
You guys are so dumb it's gross.
Let me ask you something. Howmany times have you seen the 1st fight? Hashirima is using everything around him, you've seen yamato create stuff, like huge....WHATEVER HE DID NEAR THE WATER FALL, I KNOW IT WAS BIG, X100. so under garra, around garra, abouve garra, possibly inside of garra lol, no homo, un mistakable speed, and strenght. Hashirima isint a joke, just by the sheer fact of him not fighting, not drawing, not barley losing, beating madara. he's capable of craploads more than we've seen, considering that to be true.How
You must mean Gaara med difficulty
Hashirama has no response to Sand tsunami then desert funeral
If you say he would defend with wood, his sand can go through the cracks of the wood easily since sands are grains
no actually it is uchiha madara's. note the fact madara made it. note the fact madara is THERE with an immortal unlimited stamina bodyThis is Hashirama's
Now USSJ i know you're a troll but Listen to this guy considering he knows more than you ever will
.Hashirama wins no problem
exactly. imagine what he can do nowWhen he was 13 and Had 1 tails.
he faced it before. madaraHow does Garra know what the pollen would do?
hashirama grew a few trees and hiruzen reacted to it. he even needed a hand seal.And Hashirama can grow a tree faster than Garra can fly.
tsunade can do that too. and gaaras sand clone actully fooled mizukage into thinking it was real onoki. take thatOh and Hashirama can heal without hand seals. Oh and he can make clones that are indistinguishable except with EMS.
irrelevant as hashirama was a bad matchup for kyuubi and turned it on madara. we dont know what ems madara was capable of or how the fight actually happened. but based on what we know gaara winshashi annihilates him.
not even EMS madara with perfect susano and kyuubi could beat hashi
it doesn't matter if gaara gets a desert, he gonna get solo'ed hard.
which is also a feat we know nothin about since we didnt see how he managed to do it.Hashirama beat Madara Uchiha which is a feat that Only 1 person surpasses
lol of course he can. in a desert vs ems madara, madara should say goodbye cos he is going to be sunken into the ground and sealed in a pyramid.Garra can not even stand against Madara
no he isntHiruzen is stronger than Garra
chapter 500: during the battle, hashirama gained the kyuubi and in order to aid him mito sealed it into herself. why didnt hashirama just use kyuubi on madara if he gained control of it? clearly it was too much for him.Show me where it says that Mito helped him. Because that is not in the manga.
hashirama has no feats besides being raped by old hiruzen. gaaras feats of lifting city sized sand walls surpass anything hashirama showed as an edoHashirama beat Madara Uchiha which is a feat greater than anything Garra has done.
just because you dont need hand signs doesnt mean its better than someone who DOES use signs. nothing suggests hashirama is good at it because we havent seen him do anything like that.Healing without hand signs.
itachi couldnt tell kakashi apart from his clone. so i guess kakashis clones are god tierNear perfect clone's that can not be distinguished except with EMS
the only direct descendants are his sons. beyond that, the bloodline got majorly diluted. unless senjus committed creepy incest for centuries. show me some examples of how he has large stamina.Massive chakra reserves and a direct descendant of SO6P
according to people who didnt even live in that era. sometimes the strongest shinobis are ones hiding in remote smaller villages. the world at large thought sannin were the best of the best. but the fact is prime nagato was around too.Was the only man who could face and Beat Madara Uchiha
no it isntHeld the title of Hokage which is Usually the strongest of all Kage
exhausted from previous battles, not in his best advantageous location, madara being on a completely different level to how he was against hashirama etcIf garra is so powerful why has he yet to beat Madara Uchiha?