if naruto didn't have the kyuubi and sasuke didn't have his sharingan

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That makes no sense. Naruto doesn't have the chakra of a bijuu or anyone for that matter except Kisame. Naruto and Karin = Uzamaki. Naruto has high chakra because of his bloodline from his Mother. You do realize in the manga having the body means having above average chakra levels dont you? It also comes with being able to possess a bijuu.
chakra level goes increasing by the age you cant except a 5 year old having chakra like a jounnin & then when he is 50 year old he will still have same chakra no increase in chakra lol thats not possible.

naruto at the age of 16 have chakra level 3 times much than kakshi(even when most of his chara is used to keep the kyuubi seal)
the fact is if kyuubi is removed naruto chakra will get double or triple boost.
(which is why after kyuubi was removed kushina was able to hold kyuubi down on her own)
so basically narutos chakra level is bijuu level so does kushinas & to go by your logic every uzumaki should have high chakra just like every uchiha has sharingan. but no karin dont have chakra that high.

another thing if you are telling me naruto got high chakra due to kushina & not because So6p blessed his clan with high chakra then you are right it means its not gift from so6p. on the other hand even if sasuke was born in other uchiha family he still have sharingan same does not go for naruto.
 

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well without the kyuubi in naruto and sasuke's sharingan, the show would be like ichigo after he used final getsuga tenshou and loses his powers. it will make the show less interesting and i dont think the show would be named naruto if that happened. it would of probably kakashi ahah
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chakra level goes increasing by the age you cant except a 5 year old having chakra like a jounnin & then when he is 50 year old he will still have same chakra no increase in chakra lol thats not possible.

naruto at the age of 16 have chakra level 3 times much than kakshi(even when most of his chara is used to keep the kyuubi seal)
the fact is if kyuubi is removed naruto chakra will get double or triple boost.
(which is why after kyuubi was removed kushina was able to hold kyuubi down on her own)
so basically narutos chakra level is bijuu level so does kushinas & to go by your logic every uzumaki should have high chakra just like every uchiha has sharingan. but no karin dont have chakra that high.

another thing if you are telling me naruto got high chakra due to kushina & not because So6p blessed his clan with high chakra then you are right it means its not gift from so6p. on the other hand even if sasuke was born in other uchiha family he still have sharingan same does not go for naruto.
Your logic is beyond silly. The thread is based off what would happen if Naruto didn't have Kyuubi to begin with not if he gets it removed. So your speculation of Naruto having bujjuu chakra levels is flawed. Even if he did get Kurama removed it's highly unlikely his chakra will tripled. That is just a really flawed thing to think.

Kushina was able to control Kyuubi because of her special chakra even for an Uzamaki which Naruto has inherited from her. It's proven Uzamakis and the Senju's are related. It explains why Naruto has such high stamina it's so obvious. Why are you ignoring such simple facts and making it so complicated.

It's all in Naruto's blood he has high stamina and able to host a fox. Not because he trained or worked for it. With his special body he can learn Sage Mode

With Sasukes blood he has the ability to unlock sharigan and then unlock MS. He can then obtain eyes from his brother and get EMS.

I'm done explaining such simple things.
 
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Your logic is beyond silly. The thread is based off what would happen if Naruto didn't have Kyuubi to begin with not if he gets it removed. So your speculation of Naruto having bujjuu chakra levels is flawed.

Kushina was able to control Kyuubi because of her special chakra even for an Uzamaki which Naruto has inherited from her. It's proven Uzamakis and the Senju's are related. It explains why Naruto has such high stamina it's so obvious. Why are you ignoring such simple facts and making it so complicated.

It's all in Naruto's blood he has high stamina and able to host a fox. Not because he trained or worked for it. With his special body he can learn Sage Mode

Sasuke has the ability to unlock sharigan and then unlock MS. He can then obtain eyes from his brother and get EMS.

I'm done explaining such simple things.
If You Think Including Kyubi is Not Fair than You Dont Get the Series at all. IF you see
The Sage Of Six Paths Give his " 1. Eyes 2. Spiritual Energy 3. Strength Of Chakara. <----- This is What Sage Gave to Uchiha Clan, and they Used it as Sharingan & Many Thing Even Killing there own Clan Members Just to attan more Power.

The Sage Of Six PAths Gave " 1. Body 2. Strength of Heart 3. Physical Energy <----- This is what he Gave to his Younger Son I.e Senju & Uzumaki And they used it without any Help from other Like Drugs & Forbidden Jutsu.


SO DONT USE KURAMA AS EXCUSE

Because " If the Older son i.e Uchiha Can use the Sharingan & Rinnegan to Gain Power then Why Cant the Older son Use his Strong Body to Contain Tailed Beast and Gain More Power ???? "


Have EVER Tried to Compare Kyubi with Susanoo ????

Now Tell me You make Excuse about how Kyubi is so Strong and it Gave Naruto advantage then Why cant you see the Susanoo which Sasuke got Just Because he is Uchiha. Susanoo is a Powerful Source of Power which Uchiha Get for free Just Because SO6P gave them. So If Naruto using Kyubi is not Fair then How is Sasuke using Susanoo is Fair ??????


God Damn the Uchiha Can Even Unlock Rinnegan

Yes its no Secret now that Uchiha Can even Unlock the Rinnegan And Rinnegan User can Use Godly Jutsu Like CHibaku Tensei
&b From where they Get those eyes Yes From SO6P But you never say using Rinnegan is Not fair Why ????? Rinnegan is Power as Strong as Kurama Still you say Using Kurama is Not Fair But never say Oh Uchiha Using EMS & Rinnegan is Not Fair WHy This ??????


NOW THAT I MADE IT CLEAR I WANT TO SHOW WHY UCHIHA GET ADVANTAGE ??????

So the Sharingan & the Strength of Chakra that Uchiha Got Fron SO6P is the another Reason they Get Advantage HOW ?????
See a Guy Like Kakashi Who has Sharingan but Lacks the Strength of Chakra & Spiritual Energy of Uchiha Thats Why he is Weaker than Them NoW tell Uchiha's to Remove the Spiritual Energy and Strength of Chakra or Replace it with Normal Ninja's Chakra. I can Bet KAKASHI can Kick most of the Uchiha's A$$
 

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If You Think Including Kyubi is Not Fair than You Dont Get the Series at all. IF you see
The Sage Of Six Paths Give his " 1. Eyes 2. Spiritual Energy 3. Strength Of Chakara. <----- This is What Sage Gave to Uchiha Clan, and they Used it as Sharingan & Many Thing Even Killing there own Clan Members Just to attan more Power.

The Sage Of Six PAths Gave " 1. Body 2. Strength of Heart 3. Physical Energy <----- This is what he Gave to his Younger Son I.e Senju & Uzumaki And they used it without any Help from other Like Drugs & Forbidden Jutsu.


SO DONT USE KURAMA AS EXCUSE

Because " If the Older son i.e Uchiha Can use the Sharingan & Rinnegan to Gain Power then Why Cant the Older son Use his Strong Body to Contain Tailed Beast and Gain More Power ???? "


Have EVER Tried to Compare Kyubi with Susanoo ????

Now Tell me You make Excuse about how Kyubi is so Strong and it Gave Naruto advantage then Why cant you see the Susanoo which Sasuke got Just Because he is Uchiha. Susanoo is a Powerful Source of Power which Uchiha Get for free Just Because SO6P gave them. So If Naruto using Kyubi is not Fair then How is Sasuke using Susanoo is Fair ??????


God Damn the Uchiha Can Even Unlock Rinnegan

Yes its no Secret now that Uchiha Can even Unlock the Rinnegan And Rinnegan User can Use Godly Jutsu Like CHibaku Tensei
&b From where they Get those eyes Yes From SO6P But you never say using Rinnegan is Not fair Why ????? Rinnegan is Power as Strong as Kurama Still you say Using Kurama is Not Fair But never say Oh Uchiha Using EMS & Rinnegan is Not Fair WHy This ??????


NOW THAT I MADE IT CLEAR I WANT TO SHOW WHY UCHIHA GET ADVANTAGE ??????

So the Sharingan & the Strength of Chakra that Uchiha Got Fron SO6P is the another Reason they Get Advantage HOW ?????
See a Guy Like Kakashi Who has Sharingan but Lacks the Strength of Chakra & Spiritual Energy of Uchiha Thats Why he is Weaker than Them NoW tell Uchiha's to Remove the Spiritual Energy and Strength of Chakra or Replace it with Normal Ninja's Chakra. I can Bet KAKASHI can Kick most of the Uchiha's A$$
Honestly now I don't even know wtf you are even talking about. It sounds like you're actually agreeing with me with this post.

Im just going to break it down for you like this.

3 tomoe = Naruto's high chakra/stamina Bloodline
MS= Sage Mode... Bloodline/Earned
EMS = Kyuubi. Given/Recieved

That is fair and it's proven.
 

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i get respected from many members lol
You get respect from people who dislike Sasuke, that's not real respect.

However, we both know that Naruto would stumb current Sasuke, but something you don't know is that they will be equals, you need to realize it.... It's been said so many times
 

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Then Sasuke would be a waiter at Ichiraku.
And Naruto wouldn't be very strong coz no one would hate him and he would have no passion for becoming the hokage
 

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I'm inclined to disagree, Haku would not have killed either Sasuke or Naruto. He would have hit vital points that caused the imitation of death, then joined Zabuza with his battle against Kakashi. As to where Naruto and Sasuke would end up afterwards...who really knows. Naruto could eventually still gain Sage mode, and Sasuke might become and all around decent jounin due to him not spamming MS & EMS and still fighting smartly like he did for most of part 1
 
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