[Predictions] Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

[NotoriousWarrior]

hey i can't wait for this one, we gonna see a flash back on how naruto can gather natural energy and i guess naruto finds out that Hell realm can revive people so he might be narutos next target.

meercy when you say sakura and sasuke might have something up their sleeves or might be hiding something doesn't make sense i mean do you really think that sakura would be holding back he power in this situation and against that puppet guy she fought.

sasuke is the same he had hell of a hard time against itachi and itachi fell even when sasuke was out of chakra. all im saying is that i don't think sauske can hide anything against itachi because it was one hell of a battle, we know that sauske got itachis eye techniques but that doesn't mean we dont know of them.

and seeing from the spoilers naruto still has allot to show and a lot of people will agree.

i just looked more into the spoilers and it seems like naruto has 2 clones in frog village and the scroll on his back are to summon them (kind of the same as how pein does it but naruto needs a scroll to summon them)

amazing for him to come up with that and God Realm powers are back and the proper fight starts and it seems like pein is surprised that naruto can do sage mode just like that

AND THAT MEANS THAT NARUTO IS FIGHTING WITH ONLY 33% OR LESS OF HIS POWER (REMEMBER THAT IT SPLITS CHAKRA AND EVERYTHING IN HALF WITH THE CLONES)

 

[meercy]

meercy when you say sakura and sasuke might have something up their sleeves or might be hiding something doesn't make sense i mean do you really think that sakura would be holding back he power in this situation and against that puppet guy she fought.

sasuke is the same he had hell of a hard time against itachi and itachi fell even when sasuke was out of chakra. all im saying is that i don't think sauske can hide anything against itachi because it was one hell of a battle, we know that sauske got itachis eye techniques but that doesn't mean we dont know of them.

No i meant...Jus cause we know wat techniques they have now..Dont mean they dont have any more....& sakura didnt hold back...She displayed her power then and intelligence..Which i think is down played....Its like tsunade is down played to jiriya and oro....Which they are stronger....But we cant say we know all of tsunade techniques....We didnt know about sage mode eithier untill jiriya showed it...We jus knew he was strong...

And as far as itachi and sasuke....I dont know if that was meant for me or not....
I havent said anything about there battle except if he had his sharringan on or not..which he did....

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

i get wat ur sayin meercy, cause we do kno that sasuke acquired itachis ms techs but shouldnt his acquisition of ms mean he has his own ms techs he can develop?? if so that would give sasuke 6 ms tech's compared to itachi's 3 and kakashi's 1, but who knows thats just a guess, and someone earlier was talkin bout naruto learnin his dads flicker tech, i think he will eventually, but i think its after kakashi heals from this battle, cause kakashi is the only person i can think of who would b in possession of minato's special kunai's....any comments on these theories would b nice guys

 

[NotoriousWarrior]

No i meant...Jus cause we know wat techniques they have now..Dont mean they dont have any more....& sakura didnt hold back...She displayed her power then and intelligence..Which i think is down played....Its like tsunade is down played to jiriya and oro....Which they are stronger....But we cant say we know all of tsunade techniques....We didnt know about sage mode eithier untill jiriya showed it...We jus knew he was strong...

And as far as itachi and sasuke....I dont know if that was meant for me or not....
I havent said anything about there battle except if he had his sharringan on or not..which he did....

what im trying to say is that did sasuke had such an advantage to hide his other techniques against itachi who was just about to kill him? (itachi asked sasuke to use anything that hes trying to hide and he couldn't.

i don't think sasuke had the pleasure to hide his powers from itachi meaning we have most likely seen all of it and kishi said it him self that we have seen what sasuke is capable of now we will see what naruto is capable of (meaning we have see everything sauske can do)

and as for naruto there is still more to see read my other above post i edited it.

 

[NotoriousWarrior]

i get wat ur sayin meercy, cause we do kno that sasuke acquired itachis ms techs but shouldnt his acquisition of ms mean he has his own ms techs he can develop?? if so that would give sasuke 6 ms tech's compared to itachi's 3 and kakashi's 1, but who knows thats just a guess, and someone earlier was talkin bout naruto learnin his dads flicker tech, i think he will eventually, but i think its after kakashi heals from this battle, cause kakashi is the only person i can think of who would b in possession of minato's special kunai's....any comments on these theories would b nice guys

true on what you said about the flicker, it could be that he already knows it (jiraya could have thought it to him) or he might learn it from Kakashi who is the only person in possession of the kunai's we see 4th giving it to him as a present (i know it was long time ago but kakashi wouldn't through it away now would he)

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

ya and i just keep tellin myself that cause that means that kakashi will survive!! haha

 

[Avani]

And finally, to those of you still arguing with Meercy, please shut up. Im not saying your wrong, im not saying he's right, but continuing to argue with him is like throwing a wind jutsu into a fire jutsu, you only make a bigger explosion and give those around you a ringing in the ears and a major headache.

Well, it's not wind Jutsu against fire Jutsu. I believe I'm a water type.

On my part i'm not arguing. I 'm disscussing and I am also on topic in a way. It is a prediction thread as well as 432 disscussion thread. We are debating on Naruto's growth and potential and it sttarted with Meercy's post 270 as quoted below:

naruto hasnt really surpassed nobody.....
he was a narutal sage user...ov course he was gone pass jiriya....as a sage user...
he cant out do j-man in sage fighting....point blank.....
he hasnt mastered the 4th manipulation rasengan....
naruto had to use the jutsu in sage mode and thats jus so he wont get hurt....

you have to use logic....
naruto cant do anything but make clones correctly outside of fox chakra and sage mode..
and naruto aint perfected anything....
and yes their saying he has surpassed them, but obviously....
naruto cant beat kakshi flat out...
hes not goin to beat jiriya flat out....
he cant beat the 4th eithier....

jus cause naruto can use strong techniques dont mean hes the best....
its like u tellin me naruto can whoop itachi....lol..

I strongly disagree with this statement. Because this post is highly underestimating Naruto's character development though out till date and his skills. It is unreasonable to say that Naruto cann't do anything outside his sage mode or fox chakra. Acheiving sage mode itself is a big feet and and a very high level skill. He got into the sage mode and so on...

Do u think naruto has never had help ? Im jus trying to clear that up....
I would stand up to pein if i had sage mode...lol...
When naruto fought kakazu did kakashi & yamato not bail him out ?
And as far as the next state of sharringan...If u mean MS....
U have to kill ur best friend....Summin he didnt want to do....
He wanted to get it his own way....His own power.....
Ov course itachi thought of a way to do....
And if any shinobi lived to be a 100 that would be a threat...Sarutobi was a threat....lol..
Sasuke is far from average....And u cant really say naruto is livin up to tha 4th cuz he died young.....thats my take on that...

off course naruto was bailed out , so was Kakashi and everybody else. Naruto bailed them out in return. It is called teamwork. In a team every member counts and plays an important role, still, a lot of time some individual stands out, doing maximum damage to the opposite team, and he is called star for that.

We are yet to see Sasuke's star performance. He did save naruto from haku's needles and a lot of other times. he was stronger than naruto since the start. But, the fact remains that he hasn't surpassed anybody either. Not even orochimaru.

Sasuke is good, but Itachi was the genius - he was an ambu at the age of 13. Sasuke was at the same age 13, when Itachi killed whole family off and Sasuke was nothing extraordinary at the time.

Till now, most of the time Sasuke gets things handed him down. He had a powerful family to look after him till age 13, sympathy of the whole village, third to look after him. then Kakashi definitely showed preferntial treatment to him for whatever reasons during and after Chunin exams.

Naruto on the other hand has been making his own path most of the times. He got Jiraiya but, he had to seek him first . Kakashi returned his attention to him only after Sasuke left. Otherwise he was handed out to another teacher who was no good to him.

All of naruto batchmates have shown growth and development and prove that they have what it takes to keep the legacy of their predecers. And it have been stated again and agan in the manga. Expecially, since last few mangas.

I like Sasuke(I hate his current outfit though. The one good thing Akasuki did to Sasuke was to provide him with their coat.) but if anything , it is him who need to prove that he has grown. I hope he doesn't turn out to be Madara's pawn.

We are yet to see the character growth of Sasuke.

As for Prediction:

Someone above stated that Danzou can be Madara and gave a number of reasons. ... I never thought they were the same but those reasons are quite logical and I think maybe he is Madara after all. What other reasons can Madara have to hide his face even now.

It is not like Kakashi or others whose face remain hidden. Kishi has a face for madara already. he could have shown it easily but he is still chosing to keep it a hidden.

But. in that case how come The third never recognized him. Jiraiya was suspecious and wondered if madara was still alive but never spoke out his thoughts clearly.

There are so many questions unanswered yet...

Where is my next manga ?

 

[Talisix]

You did said he won all with luck, not most of the time. And yes, he won with superior skill. Regarding the Neji fight, Naruto didn't just happen to dug himself underground and surprised Neji with that punch. It wasn't luck. It was good strategy. He planned it, then executed it and that's why Neji was caught off his guard. If that's not a skill, an intelligent one at that, superior to that of Neji at the time, I don't know what is. Because if Neji was superior to Naruto during the fight, he would have owned Naruto throughout the whole fight, not just in the beginning, and win in the end. But he didn't, therefore: Naruto has superior skill. Cause it really doesn't matter who gets beaten up worst during the whole fight, any fight, the one that triumphs in the end has to be considered superior, whether in strength, tactics, whatever skill they have. Cause for me, if you're really that good, you wouldn't be beaten anyway. If you got caught with a punch or whatever, it's your fault for underestimating your opponent and not seeing it coming. That is lack of skill. This goes for any of Naruto's fights. You said it yourself, that Naruto has determination and heart, that is also a skill not possessed by everyone. Just my thoughts...

First a reply to you, than others. Both of you are wrong. Naruto didn't win those fights with skill...Wasn't luck either. Naruto just doesn't give up. That quality would have gotten him killed long ago if not for the chakra provided by the Kyubii. Therefore, you could say he wins based only on kyubii, but that wouldn't be acurate either. He wins because a.) he has Kyubii, b.) he never gives up, c.) an average shinobi would be done long before he would so his opponents use this as a measure of his level and when he pulls chakra out his butt and keeps going it catches them off guard. His skill is typically less than his oponents, his strength usually less, it's just... him.

Itachi can turn off his sharingan. Kakashi not being able too is a side effect of not having Uchiha blood.

Sakura most likely has no hidden technique we do not know about. Sakura trained under Tsunade and they share exceptional chakra manipulation in common. That's why they both excel at medical Jutsu, and why they both can augment their strength to such a high degree. Most likely theseare their only abilities.

Sasuke very likely has many abilities we have not seen. Training under Orochimaru and being of a mindset that he will find his own way, it is very possible that he learned tech's that he doesn't want to use.

Most likely Madarra has Itachi's eyes. My theory, He took them to give to Sasuke after the effects of MS became too much to bare and Sasuke caved.
Most likely so he could take Sasuke's eyes in an attempt to go to yet another level above MS. That, however, is just a theory. Time will tell.

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

the only problem i have wit the madara/danzou theory is that why would madara develop this need to kill danzou in sasuke if they were the same person??

 

[meercy]

i get wat ur sayin meercy, cause we do kno that sasuke acquired itachis ms techs but shouldnt his acquisition of ms mean he has his own ms techs he can develop?? if so that would give sasuke 6 ms tech's compared to itachi's 3 and kakashi's 1, but who knows thats just a guess

Yea...I mean u would think he would....Its like itachi tskuyomi....
We knew he could put u in a alternate world like he did wit kakashi....
But when him and sasuke fought....It was sorta say different...
He didnt use the same move even tho it was the same technique....

what im trying to say is that did sasuke had such an advantage to hide his other techniques against itachi who was just about to kill him? (itachi asked sasuke to use anything that hes trying to hide and he couldn't.

i don't think sasuke had the pleasure to hide his powers from itachi meaning we have most likely seen all of it and kishi said it him self that we have seen what sasuke is capable of now we will see what naruto is capable of (meaning we have see everything sauske can do)

and as for naruto there is still more to see read my other above post i edited it.

Oh no not when he battled itachi.....Sasuke was really tryin to kill him....
So he threw everything but the kitchen sink at him...lol...
But wat i mean is by not knowing everyones move is....
Shinobi dont stop at one technique...They keep going...So even if sasuke is maxed out now
He still could aquire anotha move along his journey....
Like for instance....Minato made resengan...Somewhere he showed jiriya....
Now jiriya has picked up a new move....Not saying sasuke has ppl handing him moves..
But u get where im going....

 

[Avani]

true on what you said about the flicker, it could be that he already knows it (jiraya could have thought it to him) or he might learn it from Kakashi who is the only person in possession of the kunai's we see 4th giving it to him as a present (i know it was long time ago but kakashi wouldn't through it away now would he)

I'm not sure. Naruto may learn bodyflicker thing or not. He was only supposed to learn only three of fourth Jutsu's. didn't he?)

I don't think anybody is going to tell Naruto about Fourth hokage being his dad.

It seems if anybody tells that to Naruto it would be Madara during a battle or something. Second chance is Kyubi spilling the beans , but it is not that likely because up untill it has kept its mouth shut on the topic. or he may be speak up if Naruto happen to mention something relevant to him.

In another case scenario Tsunade or Kakashi or somebody from older generation can tell Naruto about his parents, if it becomes necessary to give a boost to naruto for their survival. I wish they would tell him though, before the final battle.

I wnder if Pain is going to be the friend from Akatsuki. that's if naruto manages to make Pain understand how stupid he is playing in the hands of Madara- ie same people who were responsible for the previous nanja war which made him suffer.

 

[Avani]

the only problem i have wit the madara/danzou theory is that why would madara develop this need to kill danzou in sasuke if they were the same person??

Good point.

Maybe he thought that orochimaru would controle ghis body and become a threat. But off course only Kishi knows the truth. Or even if he knows it, at this point...lol

For all we know Kishsi may still be thinking of his options.

 

[meercy]

I strongly disagree with this statement. Because this post is highly underestimating Naruto's character development though out till date and his skills. It is unreasonable to say that Naruto cann't do anything outside his sage mode or fox chakra. Acheiving sage mode itself is a big feet and and a very high level skill. He got into the sage mode and so on...

off course naruto was bailed out , so was Kakashi and everybody else. Naruto bailed them out in return. It is called teamwork. In a team every member counts and plays an important role, still, a lot of time some individual stands out, doing maximum damage to the opposite team, and he is called star for that.

We are yet to see Sasuke's star performance. He did save naruto from haku's needles and a lot of other times. he was stronger than naruto since the start. But, the fact remains that he hasn't surpassed anybody either. Not even orochimaru.

Sasuke is good, but Itachi was the genius - he was an ambu at the age of 13. Sasuke was at the same age 13, when Itachi killed whole family off and Sasuke was nothing extraordinary at the time.

Till now, most of the time Sasuke gets things handed him down. He had a powerful family to look after him till age 13, sympathy of the whole village, third to look after him. then Kakashi definitely showed preferntial treatment to him for whatever reasons during and after Chunin exams.

Naruto on the other hand has been making his own path most of the times. He got Jiraiya but, he had to seek him first . Kakashi returned his attention to him only after Sasuke left. Otherwise he was handed out to another teacher who was no good to him.

All of naruto batchmates have shown growth and development and prove that they have what it takes to keep the legacy of their predecers. And it have been stated again and agan in the manga. Expecially, since last few mangas.

I like Sasuke(I hate his current outfit though. The one good thing Akasuki did to Sasuke was to provide him with their coat.) but if anything , it is him who need to prove that he has grown. I hope he doesn't turn out to be Madara's pawn.

We are yet to see the character growth of Sasuke.

As far as naruto.....I havent said he still sucks and have showed no progression...
It was a mere saying of naruto is not that good at tajitsu compared to others...
But that was took in a whole new direction of everybody sayin naruto has this power and that power and this wat he will do to sasuke....Ov course im going to respond cause im defendin my statement into regards of wat anybody said....

And as far as the bail out thing....Even that post i said was based on eithier u or sumbody saying....Sasuke has been helped or bailed out...I said so have naruto....
So i dont understand wats wit the star thingy....And we know itachi was the genius...
A lot of ppl dont liek sasuke cause of the path he chose....Which is fine....Not saying thats u....But ppl think hes arrogant....To me all uchias were arrogant...lol....I think sasuke knows how not to be....I think he has shown that as well....Even at oro....He was really disrespectful towards him lol....But still he never flinched showin fear towards him...

 

[Avani]

No i meant...Jus cause we know wat techniques they have now..Dont mean they dont have any more....& sakura didnt hold back...She displayed her power then and intelligence..Which i think is down played....Its like tsunade is down played to jiriya and oro....Which they are stronger....But we cant say we know all of tsunade techniques....We didnt know about sage mode eithier untill jiriya showed it...We jus knew he was strong...

And as far as itachi and sasuke....I dont know if that was meant for me or not....
I havent said anything about there battle except if he had his sharringan on or not..which he did....

Jiraiys was stronger than Itachi- as Itachi said himself . he told Kisame that at the most if they fought Jiraiya together they could level the powers. He said that they might succeed in killing Jiraiya , but they wouldn't survive themselves either.

So Itachi was stronger than Orochimaru but, considered Jiraiya to be much better than him and Kisame together.

Naruto has surpassed Jiraiya in techniques and raw power. he still needs more experience , but Naruto has been facing strong enemies regularly since he was a kid.

Now we have to see how strong Pain turns out to be. If it is going to be a win or a draw.

 

[meercy]

So Itachi was stronger than Orochimaru but, considered Jiraiya to be much better than him and Kisame together.

Naruto has surpassed Jiraiya in techniques and raw power. he still needs more experience , but Naruto has been facing strong enemies regularly since he was a kid.

^^ive been saying that all along....
Strength and skills are different amongst any shinobi....
Its funny how oro looks superior to jiriya in a since....
But itachi chopped his hand off and put him a genjutsu and pretty much walked away...
Been then says if him and kisame face jiriya....They would eithier die or tie....

I agree naruto needs more exp....I've been sayin that as well...But not a simple...

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

I'm not sure. Naruto may learn bodyflicker thing or not. He was only supposed to learn only three of fourth Jutsu's. didn't he?)

I don't think anybody is going to tell Naruto about Fourth hokage being his dad.

It seems if anybody tells that to Naruto it would be Madara during a battle or something. Second chance is Kyubi spilling the beans , but it is not that likely because up untill it has kept its mouth shut on the topic. or he may be speak up if Naruto happen to mention something relevant to him.

In another case scenario Tsunade or Kakashi or somebody from older generation can tell Naruto about his parents, if it becomes necessary to give a boost to naruto for their survival. I wish they would tell him though, before the final battle.

I wnder if Pain is going to be the friend from Akatsuki. that's if naruto manages to make Pain understand how stupid he is playing in the hands of Madara- ie same people who were responsible for the previous nanja war which made him suffer.

i could see the toads tellin him as well, another reason i could see someone tellin him is that after witnessing wat has happened to konoha at the hands of pain, naruto might make the decision to leave the village bcause in truth pain was after naruto and knowin naruto he might feel that he is a danger to konoha for the time being, and as such he might make the decision to leave and train on his own or live at myobokuzan trainin wit the frogs, or he might train wit killerbee, i can see killerbee becoming naruto's new teacher, with jman being dead and having surpassed kakashi(he admitted that during the kakuza fight), killerbee is the only logical person that naruto can learn to control the kyuubi wit. and it offers the greatest protection for both of them, imagine 2 jinchuurikis trainin together, akatsuki comes along to capture them but instead gets massacred haha....i would appreciate any comments u guys have on these predictions

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

and back to the tellin naruto bout his parents, i kinda got off the point there a lil haha, it would b there way of tryin to get naruto to stay. i doubt he would tho even after learnin of his parents, naruto continously swears to himself that he will bcome stronger so that he can protect those closest to him, and wat better way to keep those he loves safe then by leavin the village, he's become strong enough that he can handle enemies by himself, this is evidenced by the pain battle

 

[Avani]

i could see the toads tellin him as well, another reason i could see someone tellin him is that after witnessing wat has happened to konoha at the hands of pain, naruto might make the decision to leave the village bcause in truth pain was after naruto and knowin naruto he might feel that he is a danger to konoha for the time being, and as such he might make the decision to leave and train on his own or live at myobokuzan trainin wit the frogs, or he might train wit killerbee, i can see killerbee becoming naruto's new teacher, with jman being dead and having surpassed kakashi(he admitted that during the kakuza fight), killerbee is the only logical person that naruto can learn to control the kyuubi wit. and it offers the greatest protection for both of them, imagine 2 jinchuurikis trainin together, akatsuki comes along to capture them but instead gets massacred haha....i would appreciate any comments u guys have on these predictions

Good points.

As for Killerbee teaching him to controle the tailed beast, I won't be surprised if he gives naruto a few tips Asuma style. For all we know there are few people now who can teach Naruto new things. He has learnt something from everybody around him already. we need new teachers to teach him new things .

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

ya especially since sasuke has madara to teach him how to better use his mangekyo, naruto needs someone to teach him how to control his bijuu, which leaves us wit killerbee as his next teacher, and naruto's teachers always have annoyin flaws, kakashi was always late, jman was a perv, and killerbee writes crappy rhymes, it totally fits! haha

 

[Rosuto Taisei]

First a reply to you, than others. Both of you are wrong. Naruto didn't win those fights with skill...Wasn't luck either. Naruto just doesn't give up. That quality would have gotten him killed long ago if not for the chakra provided by the Kyubii. Therefore, you could say he wins based only on kyubii, but that wouldn't be acurate either. He wins because a.) he has Kyubii, b.) he never gives up, c.) an average shinobi would be done long before he would so his opponents use this as a measure of his level and when he pulls chakra out his butt and keeps going it catches them off guard. His skill is typically less than his oponents, his strength usually less, it's just... him.

First off, we are wrong? Another pretty strong statement. You should have said that you disagree. It's better for conversation. Did you read my post? Heart and determination was written there. I consider that a skill. A skill that Naruto excels in most. Heart and determination is the never say die attitude a person possess, a fighter or anyone involved in any sport for that matter, in this case, a shinobi. Naruto never gives up, therefore he lasts longer in fights, therefore he has more time to analyze his opponents and plan his strategy then implements it. Outcome? He wins. And the winner, in any sport, fight or event, is to be considered the superior, more skilled person than the other. I never believed in lucky punches or what not. If you got caught, you were careless. A true skilled fighter is never careless. If he is caught, he has to jump back at it. But if he can't, you don't deserve to win, after all it was your fault for getting caught. If Naruto, or anyone for that matter, was lesser in skill or in strength in his fights, he wouldn't have won. A lot of fighters out there has the never give up, never say die attitude, BUT THEY STILL LOOSE. Just watch any contact sport.(MMA, K-1, Boxing, Sambo, etc...) But those that never gives up AND have the skill to finish a fight, wins. And Naruto wins fights. It may not be pretty but he still wins. Skills alone don't win fights. Heart alone don't win it either. One should have both to win... in fiction and in real life. Just me...