[Predictions] Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

[meercy]

I love how the topic changed from being a discussion about chapter 432 and predictions to 433... Talking about how strong Naruto would be without using the fox's chakra is great and all but everyone has their own upper edge for a reason... If someone is to talk about how strong a character is at LEAST do it including all the abilities the character has currently and no "What if's" included. I personally think with the current state Naruto is in right now, having the choice to use the fox, sage mode and his attacks I think he could pretty much beat everyone from Konoha 1 vs. 1 (And I mean using Ninjutsu and Taijutsu, not just one or the other...)

Predictions for chapter 433;

We all see that Naruto's sage mode is over and now the time for the battle to turn has come. Pein will now have the upper hand and Hell and God realm are alive for a reason. We all seem to know that God realm is the main body being used for offense, or at least from what I see he has good AOE attacks (Area of effect). Now that Nagato probably stopped the chakra flow to the downed bodies the remaining 2 pein bodies will have their chakra increased more then twice as much as they all started out with and God realm probably has regenerated from the Shira Tensei. We will probably see some of Naruto getting owned now by some concentrated attacks from God Realm and Hell realm just might play a part in a hostage situation with someone that is weak. He might also bring back some body or bodies, maybe the Demon realm pein (The one with the missiles) to keep all the others in Konoha busy.

433 I just see Pein kicking ass and Naruto pretty much until Naruto is pretty much down but he will come back of course one way or another. Or Naruto might actually get captured and then something might happen when he is getting transported?

ur right.....i agree....
Would be nice for him to get captured if possible...
Then sumbody rescuing him in process....

Sigh. I am repeating myself but maybe I was not clear enough last time:

Neji was probably no match for Naruto without his inherited skills. We would never know because it was never shown and of no importance either.

Neji used his espesial ability to fight Naruto and Naruto used his own hidden power to counter Neji's. So, no use of whinning about fox chakra. In the end Naruto outwitted Neji and won the match. He had to prove he had enough skills to win and he did it. End of the story.

When Sasuke first saw Killerbee, the eight tailed Bijju was writing his lyrics. At the first indication of start of the fight, sharingan was activated. I still don't understand what is the point of trying to prove that Sasuke doesn't rely on it.

They all do rely on their hidden power and techniques. Those who don't have anything especial are ordinary shinobies and not even named most of the times.

Whatever...

Ok naruto wins....
and i didnt wanna look for the same fact i proved a while back...
But a fight is a fight....Doesnt matter who starts it....

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^ is that not a fight ?

there is no point of him relyin on it...Ive said that in every post jus about...
I jus said he doesnt use it all the time....Only when needed....
Like when he fought all those shinobis oro made him fight...

 

[konoha s beautiful beast]

meercy you are typing too much...dont forget konoha senpu-rock lee is somewhere near!
LOL

 

[meercy]

meercy you are typing too much...dont forget konoha senpu-rock lee is somewhere near!
LOL

OMG ROCK LEE....We Will Battle Again......!!
Yea i admit i have been postin so much i got a warnin...lol....

 

[NotoriousWarrior]

ur right.....i agree....
Would be nice for him to get captured if possible...
Then sumbody rescuing him in process....



Ok naruto wins....
and i didnt wanna look for the same fact i proved a while back...
But a fight is a fight....Doesnt matter who starts it....

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^ is that not a fight ?

there is no point of him relyin on it...Ive said that in every post jus about...
I jus said he doesnt use it all the time....Only when needed....
Like when he fought all those shinobis oro made him fight...

the reason sasuke doesn't use it all the time is not because he can take on killerbee without it but its because sasuke knows that his chakra limit is not high so he tries to fight without it. but don't say he doesn't rely on it i mean he wouldn't go up against itachi if he didn't have sharingan would he?

and i don't think naruto will get captured, reasons:

1 - kishi has been building up the story of pein since he was introduced and hes done many things such as killing Jiraya, destroying konoha and kakashi's death to naruto's eye (he may not be dead but naruto thinks he is).

2 - The training to get sage mode wasn't for naruto to get beaten right after it.

3 - Its the first proper fight naruto has to show his skill and power.

and i don't think kishi wants to go to Rescue Naruto arc (Rescue Garaa Arc)

 

[meercy]

the reason sasuke doesn't use it all the time is not because he can take on killerbee without it but its because sasuke knows that his chakra limit is not high so he tries to fight without it. but don't say he doesn't rely on it i mean he wouldn't go up against itachi if he didn't have sharingan would he?

and i don't think naruto will get captured, reasons:

1 - kishi has been building up the story of pein since he was introduced and hes done many things such as killing Jiraya, destroying konoha and kakashi's death to naruto's eye (he may not be dead but naruto thinks he is).

2 - The training to get sage mode wasn't for naruto to get beaten right after it.

3 - Its the first proper fight naruto has to show his skill and power.

and i don't think kishi wants to go to Rescue Naruto arc (Rescue Garaa Arc)

Ok...But thats sasuke tho....Rather using it or not....
I dont think his chakra is low eithier...Thats jus wat i think....
But like i jus said like a few post ago....I didnt say he didnt rely on it..
And unless ur skilled and ready to win or die...its not safe to go against itachi...lol...

And he may not be captured....Thats was jus a thought like it could happen...
Im leaning more toward....Pein is goin to have to leave with out naruto....
Even tho he doesnt want too....

 

[Avani]

and i don't think naruto will get captured, reasons:

1 - kishi has been building up the story of pein since he was introduced and hes done many things such as killing Jiraya, destroying konoha and kakashi's death to naruto's eye (he may not be dead but naruto thinks he is).

2 - The training to get sage mode wasn't for naruto to get beaten right after it.

3 - Its the first proper fight naruto has to show his skill and power.

and i don't think kishi wants to go to Rescue Naruto arc (Rescue Garaa Arc)

Agreed. there would be no point in saying things like Naruto is on whole another level now and then getting him captured just like that. there would be no one to rescue him , if he can not do it himself at the moment.

The manga would suck if they are going to play a Naruto rescue arc in the same manner as Gara rescue arc.

^ is that not a fight ?

That's called warming up. You proved nothing but, the fact that you are trying to hold on straws.

As I said more than once before, Killerbee was writing rymes. Sasuke uses his chakra for shaingan, he is not an idiot to waste it for following brush movements on a paper. He activated it when Killerbee attacked seriously.'

Sasuke got his speacial weapon out the moment Killerbee took out his.

jus said he doesnt use it all the time....Only when needed....
Like when he fought all those shinobis oro made him fight...

Just like everybody else. Nobody takes out their weapon till it is needed. Naruto doesn't rely on Fox chakra untill he's out of all other options.

I still don't see what you are trying to prove about Sasuke and how it proves that Naruto is weak or nothing without his jutsus or fox chakra. As far as I understand the plot, few people can hold resist and sustain the damage done by Kyubi powers for that long. Even that's an ability.

Again I have no idea what you are trying to prove at the moment.

 

[Zurita210]

It's kind of hard predicting what will happen next, there's still 2 Pein bodies out there, God Pein and the body that can bring all the other ones back to life. I hope all of the bodies dont come back to life. I think Pein will have to retreat... Dont know how yet or cant really think of why he would return. I dont think that Pein would retreat if he were to know that the 8 tails wasnt captured. But I dont think the cloud ninja would show up just yet or Sauske neither. Dont know how but Pein will retreat, I think Konahamuro will show up and tell Naruto about how the Hell Realm brings back the bodies to life.

 

[meercy]

That's called warming up. You proved nothing but, the fact that you are trying to hold on straws.

As I said more than once before, Killerbee was writing rymes. Sasuke uses his chakra for shaingan, he is not an idiot to waste it for following brush movements on a paper. He activated it when Killerbee attacked seriously.'

Sasuke got his speacial weapon out the moment Killerbee took out his.

Just like everybody else. Nobody takes out their weapon till it is needed. Naruto doesn't rely on Fox chakra untill he's out of all other options.

I still don't see what you are trying to prove about Sasuke and how it proves that Naruto is weak or nothing without his jutsus or fox chakra. As far as I understand the plot, few people can hold resist and sustain the damage done by Kyubi powers for that long. Even that's an ability.

Again I have no idea what you are trying to prove at the moment.

ok...lol...its how ever u look at it....
A warm up ? lol...I didnt know u cold warm up with blows in a real fight....
I mean sly anbu pretty much said wat i was sayin a while back....
Ive said countless of time naruto is strong and not weak...
and theres nothin to prove....im jus statin wat i think....

 

[Avani]

ok...lol...its how ever u look at it....
A warm up ? lol...I didnt know u cold warm up with blows in a real fight....
I mean sly anbu pretty much said wat i was sayin a while back....
Ive said countless of time naruto is strong and not weak...
and theres nothin to prove....im jus statin wat i think....

Yes. You do warm up often when you are going to spar with somebody you know nothing about. Basically testing your opponant and his skills. A build up.

Like when Naruot attacked Kakuzu the first time with his clones. He attacked , but he was not actually trying to do anything to Kakuzu. he was just checking up his opponant and planning his real attack.

Let's us agree to disagree for the rest, though I'm looking forward to reach my ten post so that I can soo those signatures. it is damn unfair at the moment.

 

[Odama Naruto]

Naruto will finally finish pain of in manga 433/434.And after that he will go and
look after sasuke and help him defeat Uchiha Madara

 

[sinBLACK]

How can ANYone say Naruto's weaker than sasuke. Lets look at the facts...He attacted Orochimaru when he was "WEAK" and ready to change bodies. Sasuke would've DARED fight him when he was healthy and at his peak (He already admited that)

Next, GUESS WHAT...when he fought Itachi, Itachi was sick also!! He fought Deidra and It took alot for him to beat him (While Itachi did it with ease, without even moving from his spot).

Then Sasuke fought the 8tails and got scrapped up!! Do we no remember this. He almost died. He needed his crew to come save him and heal him. Right or wrong!. The fact is...throughout this entire series Sasuke has really never fought anyone on his own and beat them. Naruto always fight on his own. Remember Gaara (Sasuke lost), Mirror Ninja on the bridge (Sasuke Lost), Ninja with the Lightening sword (Sasuke lost)...and so on and so on. What Superior ninja has Naruto face and lost to?

 

[meercy]

Yes. You do warm up often when you are going to spar with somebody you know nothing about. Basically testing your opponant and his skills. A build up.

Like when Naruot attacked Kakuzu the first time with his clones. He attacked , but he was not actually trying to do anything to Kakuzu. he was just checking up his opponant and planning his real attack.

Let's us agree to disagree for the rest, though I'm looking forward to reach my ten post so that I can soo those signatures. it is damn unfair at the moment.

we do agree to disagree....
To me...Spar is training.......

When naruto attacked kakazu...He was being smart...Plus using his clones to the adv...
Let me jus say this....For everybody who has commented back and think eithier...
Im solely wrong or jus sayin watever.....

This is not gone end in me saying ur right....
Cause every thought has been a opinion off of the other person...
Jus like now....I see sparrin as totally diff....But i know wat u mean by it...
But i wouldnt look at it or use it that way....
If i am going to fight someone in rela life...Its not sparring....We are actually fighting...
I can only analyze as the fight progresses....thats just me tho...Dunno about other ppl...

 

[sinBLACK]

You're right. Naruto is on a whole nother LEVEL. You can't even compare Sasuke to him anymore!! He has way too weapons at his disposal like no other.

He has the "Sage Mode" now. He has 10 times the chakra of any other Ninja which allows him to execute stronger jutsus and don't forget his shadow clones (Which as of right now is equilvilant to the sharigan since he learned to pick up on things faster now). Also don't for the Fox demon (Which is the strongest demon of the nine) that he has, his ace in the whole...Sage mode is nothing compared to him unleashing that thing. And the most important....He has a SLEEPING SHARIGAN that hasn't even been activated yet.

Sooooooooo Naruto aint no punk. He surpassed his father long ago. Just ask yourselves this....Would Sasuke have lasted this long against Pein? I really don't think so.

 

[meercy]

How can ANYone say Naruto's weaker than sasuke. Lets look at the facts...He attacted Orochimaru when he was "WEAK" and ready to change bodies. Sasuke would've DARED fight him when he was healthy and at his peak (He already admited that)

Next, GUESS WHAT...when he fought Itachi, Itachi was sick also!! He fought Deidra and It took alot for him to beat him (While Itachi did it with ease, without even moving from his spot).

Then Sasuke fought the 8tails and got scrapped up!! Do we no remember this. He almost died. He needed his crew to come save him and heal him. Right or wrong!. The fact is...throughout this entire series Sasuke has really never fought anyone on his own and beat them. Naruto always fight on his own. Remember Gaara (Sasuke lost), Mirror Ninja on the bridge (Sasuke Lost), Ninja with the Lightening sword (Sasuke lost)...and so on and so on. What Superior ninja has Naruto face and lost to?

this is a setup for me again....so i wont really say alot...lol...
I admit sasuke has lost fights, but he has fought stronger ppl than naruto...
but naruto has saved sasuke too & have fought a few strong ppl....Vice versa.....
So im not takin anything from wat u are sayin....

Itachi was wayyyyy out of alot of shinobis league...lol...
I expect naruto to win big fights....He is the main character....
Even thru everything i've said....Naruto has caught up wit sasuke in a since...
But naruto has been training jus for that as well to be hokage....
He wants sasuke to come back and aknowledge him as a strong shinobi...

You're right. Naruto is on a whole nother LEVEL. You can't even compare Sasuke to him anymore!! He has way too weapons at his disposal like no other.

He has the "Sage Mode" now. He has 10 times the chakra of any other Ninja which allows him to execute stronger jutsus and don't forget his shadow clones (Which as of right now is equilvilant to the sharigan since he learned to pick up on things faster now). Also don't for the Fox demon (Which is the strongest demon of the nine) that he has, his ace in the whole...Sage mode is nothing compared to him unleashing that thing. And the most important....He has a SLEEPING SHARIGAN that hasn't even been activated yet.

Sooooooooo Naruto aint no punk. He surpassed his father long ago. Just ask yourselves this....Would Sasuke have lasted this long against Pein? I really don't think so.

i mean im glad hes becomin the ninja we all want....dunno wat else to say bout narutos strength besides that
Neva said naruto is a punk....I dont think he passed the 4th as a whole...strength ov course...
I dunno wat sasuke can do.....Maybe he has more tricks up his sleeve....
Naruto has goals as well as sasuke....They both have diff missions...fit for wat they need to do...

 

[sinBLACK]

Why in the HELL would it be nice if Naruto got captured. Pein leveled that entire village with one jutsu. If he were captured, what ninja would be willing and ABLE to capture him back from Pein himself?! There is no one, and don't even say sasuke. He wouldn't even be able to save himself.

So logically, who would you send? Who could you send? If Naruto couldn't beat him then there IS no one else. He surpassed the forth (And he was considered to be the strongest in history).

 

[sinBLACK]

I respect both your opinions thanks for the reply. I want to say this...Naruto has a goal, Sasuke has an agenda (That's all).

Now about Sasuke fighting stronger ninjas. The only ninjas Sasuke faced that naruto hasn't faced was the 8tails (In reality that's it...thats it!!). What other superior ninja has Sasuke faced that Naruto hasn't faced. And when has Sasuke EVER save naruto? From what I remember...That was the reason Sasuke left, because he was hating on Naruto for always saving his ass.

Naruto faced Orochimaru, Itachi, and Deidra. These are the Ninjas Sasuke faced sinced he left the Leaf. Only one he faced that Naruto hasn't was the 8tails. And look what happened in that fight! And there's something I want to point out, Naruto faced all those ninja when they were healthy and not sick and he survived. Sasuke CHOSE to face them while they were weak and he had to fight for his life! Am I wrong on these. These are not my opinions....This is what happened in the manga.

 

[xerious]

You're right. Naruto is on a whole nother LEVEL. You can't even compare Sasuke to him anymore!! He has way too weapons at his disposal like no other.

He has the "Sage Mode" now. He has 10 times the chakra of any other Ninja which allows him to execute stronger jutsus and don't forget his shadow clones (Which as of right now is equilvilant to the sharigan since he learned to pick up on things faster now). Also don't for the Fox demon (Which is the strongest demon of the nine) that he has, his ace in the whole...Sage mode is nothing compared to him unleashing that thing. And the most important....He has a SLEEPING SHARIGAN that hasn't even been activated yet.

Sooooooooo Naruto aint no punk. He surpassed his father long ago. Just ask yourselves this....Would Sasuke have lasted this long against Pein? I really don't think so.

I tooootally agree with you, to be truthfull speaking about sasuke, he has been a wooz the whole time, he allways tries 2 act cool and tough, the only thing i see in him is that he does know how to analize a fight and to improvise from that, besides that, he's just a normal uchiha, in other words, a normal nin with the slight diference of having a sharingan eye. I really dont see the "supernatural" in sasuke, itachi on the other hand was a complete badass character, dont even dare to think to compare the quality of those 2 nins.
As for naruto, he has surpased so many people in the series when it comes to power, its not even funny to try to compare him to the third, the first or the second, and even the forth and Tsunade sama, even if he would have his ass beaten on the half of the fight, i bet, whatever, he would still have something come up, or make a final effort and get the fight done with him victorious.
Lets check naruto and sasuke's habilities
Sasuke
-sharingan
-great fireball thecks
-chidori
-electric nature manipulation
-good skills improvisating
-amateratsu (comes with sharingan)

Naruto
-N shadow clones
-almost unlimited chakra by himself
-Rasengan
-Odama rasengan
-Kuchiyose no jutsu (toad summons)
-Futon thecks
-Futon rasen shuriken
-Sage mode
-Kyubi chakra
-Kyubi mode
-Itachi's Misterious power that he hoped naruto never came to use but we all know he'll someday cuz its definetlly on kishi's plans

Besides both naruto and sasuke are almost equal when it comes to taijutsu, shurikens, kunais, etc, so yeah, i personally think naruto is FAR more powerfull than sasuke and a lot of nins in the series.

 

[xerious]

I respect both your opinions thanks for the reply. I want to say this...Naruto has a goal, Sasuke has an agenda (That's all).

Now about Sasuke fighting stronger ninjas. The only ninjas Sasuke faced that naruto hasn't faced was the 8tails (In reality that's it...thats it!!). What other superior ninja has Sasuke faced that Naruto hasn't faced. And when has Sasuke EVER save naruto? From what I remember...That was the reason Sasuke left, because he was hating on Naruto for always saving his ass.

Naruto faced Orochimaru, Itachi, and Deidra. These are the Ninjas Sasuke faced sinced he left the Leaf. Only one he faced that Naruto hasn't was the 8tails. And look what happened in that fight! And there's something I want to point out, Naruto faced all those ninja when they were healthy and not sick and he survived. Sasuke CHOSE to face them while they were weak and he had to fight for his life! Am I wrong on these. These are not my opinions....This is what happened in the manga.

I agree with ur opinion totally

 

[xerious]

Naruto has goals as well as sasuke....They both have diff missions...fit for wat they need to do...

Not true, naruto has missions because he's into it, just as much as sasuke was into geting revenge on itachi, and even when he was underpowered, he fought and won, unlike sasuke

 

[sinBLACK]

And don't forget the Sharingan that Naruto has (That Itachi gave him). Add that to the list. The only ninjas in this series that can compete with him now are "PEIN" and "Madara" and Itachi's dead but he would've definitly been on that list.