A would devastate Jiraya

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Wow Mrmojo8484 you can't defend yourself properly so you side with lame ass Prince Charles? Which btw, stfu. I can defend myself unlike some people that use lame excuses to prove how strong a character is on battle. Also, Mrmojo8484 you said that Jiraiya has no defense? Let me ask you where the hell is your mind right now? You become so accusatory of me not reading the manga, but you say such statement? Don't talk shit about someone and expect shit not to be thrown back at you. Your only proof that A wins is his speed, which Jiraiya can't keep up. A is faster, but just because he is fast that doesn't mean he will win. That's like saying, A> Madara in who's stronger. Are you gonna debate that one too? EliteKakashi, it's an armor not a Perfect Susanoo. If Tsunade could break Madara's Susanoo. How can Jiraiya not break A's silly little Raiton Armor?
 
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not devistate
naruto beat 3rd raikage in sm so jiraiya can probably beat a. plus jiraiya almost beat pain 1on1 which i don't think a could do. jiraiya wins mid-dif with info. without info pervy still wins with high dif or a wins with high-dif.
 

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Wow Mrmojo8484 you can't defend yourself properly so you side with lame ass Prince Charles? Which btw, stu. I can defend myself unlike some people that use lame excuses to prove how strong a character in battle. Also, Mrmojo8484 you said that Jiraiya has no defense? Let me ask you where the hell is your mind right now? You become so accusatory of me not reading the manga, but you say such statement? Don't talk shit about someone and expect shit to be thrown back at you. Your only proof that A wins is his speed, which Jiraiya can't keep up. A is faster, but just because he is fast that doesn't mean he will win. That's like saying, A> Madara in who's stronger. Are you gonna debate that one too? EliteKakashi, it's an armor not a Perfect Susanoo. If Tsunade could break Madara's Susanoo. How can Jiraiya not break A's silly little Raiton Armor?
It's not something you "break". It's a raiton that covers his body. It's chakra. It's not "physical". It's something you have to pierce.
 

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It's not something you "break". It's a raiton that covers his body. It's chakra. It's not "physical". It's something you have to pierce.
Break or Pierce. He can go through A if he wants. I mean this thread is basically underrating Jiraiya. Madara said, that Tsunade is slower than Raikage, but stronger. Does that mean that Tsunade> A> Jiraiya? Answer that one.
 

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This fight would depend on if A could blitz Jiraya at the begin of the fight or not. If A manage to blitz him, he can arguably have a great chance to win the battle, but more the time it takes, more Jiraya would be able to create opportunities to win. With his great versatility, it would be too much for A in this case
 

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J-man is defiantly not as fast as A however those who say he is slow are wrong these are his databooks stats.....
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He is almost completely maxed with speed in the databook so I give this match to J-man
Don't forget that speed is when Jman has sage mode and in base he is slower.
Jiraiya sage mode genjustu will kill A, he can use senjustu to evade A 's attack, (Even Naruto avoided third raikages best fastest attack)
Frog katas have power to topple A.
He can create Damn swamps to slow down A
He can summon toad stomoch to capture A, like he did to itachi and kisame
He has gamabunta, Raikage has no summons
After some fighting A will lose chakra and Jiraiya is Sage
ultimately A will be defeated.
if u like it REP me
1. Third Raikage is much slower than A and Naruto is faster than Jiraiya.
2. Jiraiya doesn't have frog katas.
3. Good call
4. Toad stomach is not holding A who can bust his way out.
5. Frogs are too slow to attack A.
6. A has tailed beast levels of chakra so how is he going to run out first?
Please, Jiraiya has a dangerous arsenal of jutsu. Needle Jizo will split the poor fella.
How will needle Jizo do anything to A's lightning armour.

This is what i'm gonna call people who only use speed to make someone look superior: speedsters. A only has his punches, lariat, and liger bomb is that all he can do?
Are you implying that punches, lariat and liger bombs aren't enough to beat Jman?
I know his style you loser. I am talking about that it will take more than stupid his nintaijutsu fighting style to take down a Sannin.
Just because he is a Sannin doesn't mean he can't die by A's arsenal of attacks.
Wow really Kakashi? My logic is better than using speed for an excuse. Jiraiya can penetrate the shield if the likes of Sasuke can. So i'm just stating that Jiraiya won't get killed by a Raiton A.
Are you implying that Jiraiya is a better raiton user than Sasuke if Jiraiya doesn't even have raiton lol fail. Why won't Jiraiya get killed if he gets attacked by an attack from A.
Are you gonna debate that one too? EliteKakashi, it's an armor not a Perfect Susanoo. If Tsunade could break Madara's Susanoo. How can Jiraiya not break A's silly little Raiton Armor?
Now you are comparing Tsunade's punches to Jiraiya this is just too funny. I do believe Jman's rasengan can penetrate the raiton armour but it won't kill Raikage just like Sasuke's chidori.
not devistate
naruto beat 3rd raikage in sm so jiraiya can probably beat a. plus jiraiya almost beat pain 1on1 which i don't think a could do. jiraiya wins mid-dif with info. without info pervy still wins with high dif or a wins with high-dif.
The 3rd Raikage was an Edo Tensei zombie who had no mind of his own. Also Naruto had a lot of intel and help in that fight. Furthermore, A is a lot faster than his father.
 

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Break or Pierce. He can go through A if he wants. I mean this thread is basically underrating Jiraiya. Madara said, that Tsunade is slower than Raikage, but stronger. Does that mean that Tsunade> A> Jiraiya? Answer that one.
We don't know that. We don't know if rasengan or anything else Jiraiya has can "pierce" it.

You can't use Character A > Character B, so Character A > Character C.

That doesn't work.

You're not using any logic. Jiraiya isn't being underrated, it's just a bad matchup. Every character in this series has a bad matchup, short of like Edo Madara.
 

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Break or Pierce. He can go through A if he wants. I mean this thread is basically underrating Jiraiya. Madara said, that Tsunade is slower than Raikage, but stronger. Does that mean that Tsunade> A> Jiraiya? Answer that one.
How is this thread underrating jiraya? I guess if I made a thread saying sot6p could beat Itachi I'd be underrating him?
 

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The Jirayia wankers in this thread are ridiculous. If the fastest ninja in the world had to rely on Instant teleportation to escape A's attack wth is Jiraya going to do?

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Wow Mrmojo8484 you can't defend yourself properly so you side with lame ass Prince Charles? Which btw, stfu. I can defend myself unlike some people that use lame excuses to prove how strong a character is on battle. Also, Mrmojo8484 you said that Jiraiya has no defense? Let me ask you where the hell is your mind right now? You become so accusatory of me not reading the manga, but you say such statement? Don't talk shit about someone and expect shit not to be thrown back at you. Your only proof that A wins is his speed, which Jiraiya can't keep up. A is faster, but just because he is fast that doesn't mean he will win. That's like saying, A> Madara in who's stronger. Are you gonna debate that one too? EliteKakashi, it's an armor not a Perfect Susanoo. If Tsunade could break Madara's Susanoo. How can Jiraiya not break A's silly little Raiton Armor?
Tsunade could break it simply because her tai-jutsu is stronger than Jiraiya's and A's.
 

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The Jirayia wankers in this thread are ridiculous. If the fastest ninja in the world had to rely on Instant teleportation to escape A's attack wth is Jiraya going to do?

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Jiraya can put up a barrier can can sense invisible creatures from a distance and make it act like a sharringan. Now Jman and sasuke have the same speed and he could dodge A fine. This is only bass Jman too. Using a few clones he can get to sage mode in no time and then Rape A like its a joke.

Also please tell me how A can even fight off one of the 3 Giant toad? Really I want to know how because i cant see that happening ever.
 

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Guys, Jiraya can enter sage mode almost instantly with the help of Ma and Pa. Look:

Here he's not in sage mode and gets hit by the ram.

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And here, right after that, he's in sage mode.

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So I don't think the amount of time it takes to enter sage mode is a problem. And once he's in sage mode, he can most definitely avoid the Raikage's attack like Naruto did, and use Frog Katas, massive rasengan, and the frog song all to defeat the Raikage. At that point, Jiraya will definitely have the upper hand and most likely win.
Don't try to cut it down. He went into Sage mode 2nd page of the chapter
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Then got into it at the end of the chapter. A wouldn't give him that time and there are no hidey holes for Jiraiya to run into. A only needs a few punches to take Base Jiraiya out and with his speed he will get them early on in the fight.

Jiraya can put up a barrier can can sense invisible creatures from a distance and make it act like a sharringan. Now Jman and sasuke have the same speed and he could dodge A fine. This is only bass Jman too. Using a few clones he can get to sage mode in no time and then Rape A like its a joke.

Also please tell me how A can even fight off one of the 3 Giant toad? Really I want to know how because i cant see that happening ever.
By the he realizes A went inside the barrier Jiraiya would already be hit.
 
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Jman only needs like less then a second to summon any Great toad and A cant beat a single one. He is not as strong as them and has no tech for fighting anything large scale. Jman just needs to sit on top of gamabunta till he gets sage mode(If its even needed for this fight).
 

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The Jirayia wankers in this thread are ridiculous. If the fastest ninja in the world had to rely on Instant teleportation to escape A's attack wth is Jiraya going to do?

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speed doesnt automatically make or break naruto fights. there are loads of other elements that come into effect: take for example lee vs gaara in part 1. lee was miles faster then gaara but his defensive skills held up long enough to tire lee out. raikages biggest disadvantage here is his rash,unthinking nature. im not calling him dumb,just saying he doesnt think things thru

as to who would win..this fight really could go either way. sm j mans giant rasengan could most likley break lighting armort..if a blitzs him before he can use a shadowclone or toad swamp this would turn bad..

overall i think this could go either way,but the longer it drags out the higher jiriyahs advantage becomes(summoning toads,sm,relizing raikage only uses nintaijutsu).
 

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jiraiya would win mid-high diff, if A runs up 2 jiraiya then tries to punch him, needle jizo would disturb his movments, and the summons can get him some time to get him into sage mode, then when A is in the gen-jutsu, he is done for, because the sage genjutsu makes ur body not move or do anything, and in sage mode, jiraiya can sense A's movements because A has lots of chakra, the only explaination you guys have is his speed, when your in sage mode u have tons of speed
 
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