Do you believe in God?

[Dust realese]

I believe God is a system created by us humans so we can blame some one for our mistakes , thank him if we are happy and ask for his help if we are desperate ......

 

[zombiejesus]

So what do you have to say to those whose prayers have been answered? Just coincidence? That's awfully convenient. xd

yes it would be if your mother is sick and you pray she may gert better or may not if you dont pray she may get better or not but one thing is for sure if she gets her arm chopped off it is not comeing back and i dont mean regrafted i mean GROWING back so pray all you want that shit is gone see my point if god was so great he would regrow your dear mommas arm but he doesnt becuase either he can not or doesnt exist

 

[zombiejesus]

I Believe in God, also ill pray for you guys, nd about the big bang theory, how can man be created by a gernade aka an explosion, thats like me throwing a gernade and then a random person jumped out of it. Im a Christian, nd dont say all that crud about God is the reason for my life problems and me falling into temptation, thats the devil making a move on you because u did not accept jesus into your heart, also God will always love you, but if you dont accept him and what jesus christ has done for us of course you will be sent to the pit of fire, Nd for all of those who dont believe, where do you think you go after you die? turn into an animal, what if the animal dies, just gonna transfer into a different animal, or u turn into a tree, which is just crazy because you wil get cut down, then they will print the bible on you, or u just rot into the ground and go out of existence, WHICH IS WAYYYY OFF, but its just my opinion

same way we can be created by a mystical invisible man who birthed himself to die for use do you even hear how stupid that sounds 99% of you that believe in god were told to by your parents the other 1% had it so shitty the only way to make it was to hope and believe think about it when you were little santa was real right and the easter bun ny who taught you those things your parents and sunday school then one by one they went away no santa no easter bunny no tooth fairy no GOD thats the way it if you can not deal with that it is ok keep on believeing in a fairy tale but i will enjoy my life as much as i can without the rules of a fictional man beast that gives birth to itself and if your muslim same for you only muslim because you were taught to be and you will teach your kids the same

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[Olorin]

LOL to all posters who say big bang is rubbish and dont actually get one bit of it, sorry but considering where we are (manga forum with mostly kids and young adults) I would say not many (actually I doubt anyone participating in this thread has) have enough mathematical knowledge to say they understand enough about the big bang to dismiss it

if you dont know enough about the subject dont comment on it

 

[XXDeadpoolXX]

LOL to all posters who say big bang is rubbish and dont actually get one bit of it, sorry but considering where we are (manga forum with mostly kids and young adults) I would say not many (actually I doubt anyone participating in this thread has) have enough mathematical knowledge to say they understand enough about the big bang to dismiss it

if you dont know enough about the subject dont comment on it

granted i don't have degree in anything, but it sounds extremely plausible vs some deity.

 

[AfroJutsu]

You lost me after I read your opinion, "If you take the thought that there was a designer seriously the designing would be particularly incompetent because there are so many ways in which the universe could be better. Ones human body is a mess of bad design features." What do you define as better, me having super powers or perfect health, your attempting to look at a picture with a limited scope.

 

[Dr Dark Knight]

LOL to all posters who say big bang is rubbish and dont actually get one bit of it, sorry but considering where we are (manga forum with mostly kids and young adults) I would say not many (actually I doubt anyone participating in this thread has) have enough mathematical knowledge to say they understand enough about the big bang to dismiss it

if you dont know enough about the subject dont comment on it

Alright, I am not a kid. tell me about the mathematical aspect of Big bang, I'l tell you about the Biological aspects.

Oh no!!!! New things!!!! New things scare me!!!! Please, don't tell me about new things!!!! That's not what my brianwashing told me!!! I can't accept anything that is diferent then my negative pre-concieved stereo types of people who don't think exacty like i do!!! Im scared!! I don't like it when someone tries to tell me something new!! Blah blah blah i cant hear you!!!!


God damn how immature are you? You refuse to acknowledge a religion simply because it isnt what you THINK it should be?

Lol. I can see how much sense you are making. OR how much did you understand what I wrote. Have you tried to control the snake with the flute?. rofl _O-

I recommend you reread my post(esp the second part) cuz you didnt understand anything. or should I write easier English?

 

[Shinobi Train]

yes it would be if your mother is sick and you pray she may gert better or may not if you dont pray she may get better or not but one thing is for sure if she gets her arm chopped off it is not comeing back and i dont mean regrafted i mean GROWING back so pray all you want that shit is gone see my point if god was so great he would regrow your dear mommas arm but he doesnt becuase either he can not or doesnt exist

Meh, stranger things have happened, so re-growing an arm is nothing. The laws of physics state that matter cannot occupy the same place at the same time...I wonder then how I passed straight through a car on the highway without an accident...

Laws of science are shattered all the time, it's just that scientists refuse to see it and choose not to believe it.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

I was not degrading science(did we really have to go to the moon anyway?). All those cures for those illnesses could have easily been done by God if He wanted. I don't know about those other religions so I can not give you a valid response but I will say this: Satan created all the other religions(beleive it or not) he got into the minds of those from thousands of years ago. Those people decided that God can't be real since they couldn't see,hear,touch,smell or taste these angels,demons and God Adam and Eve were talking about and to make matters worse they didn't even know where the garden of eden was so they decided to depart from their mother and father's home and become what we now call aethiests.

Years passed and they decided that they need something to worship so they built statues of "gods" and animals,gave them names and worshiped them. They trusted these statues because they could actually see,touch,smell and taste them and they then taught and told their children to worship them,making up stories for them and it wen't generation through generation. While the sons and daughters that did not leave Adam and Eve's side taught their children the truth and it went down generation through generation.



1) Sorry,thats not what I meant to do.

2) No,atleast not Christianity and Judaism

3) Proven by our natural way of thinking

3) All the time. The bible says the battle is not mine but the Lord's

:shrug: ..... :sy:

 

[HadouKage]

I just don't get how people say science started life. Where the science come from? Out of nowhere? If so, scientifically explain to me how stuff happens out of nowhere

 

[Shinobi Train]

I just don't get how people say science started life. Where the science come from? Out of nowhere? If so, scientifically explain to me how stuff happens out of nowhere

Sorry, that won't work.



The problem with this theory though is it does what scientists always have, it just pushed the mystery further back into an unknown place. "So we can't explain it, so we'll explain it with something that we can't explain" <--for those that don't want to take the time to watch the video. xd

 

[HadouKage]

Sorry, that won't work.



The problem with this theory though is it does what scientists always have, it just pushed the mystery further back into an unknown place. "So we can't explain it, so we'll explain it with something that we can't explain" <--for those that don't want to take the time to watch the video. xd

(I'll watch the vid later in class) Ok so you're telling me that stuff from this earth can happen from nothing right?

 

[AngryRock]

And then the good old question again: who created god? How come he exists?

God is eternal he does not need a creator to exist. He was not created and cannot be destroyed.

 

[Shinobi Train]

(I'll watch the vid later in class) Ok so you're telling me that stuff from this earth can happen from nothing right?

No, that's what they're saying. Basically what it's talking about is supposedly there's particles that are popping in and out of existence all the time all over the place at random moments. So if they're popping in and out of existence, who's creating them? rofl: sorry, a little creationist humor. xd )

 

[HadouKage]

No, that's what they're saying. Basically what it's talking about is supposedly there's particles that are popping in and out of existence all the time all over the place at random moments. So if they're popping in and out of existence, who's creating them? rofl: sorry, a little creationist humor. xd )

I just want someone to prove to me how stuff just comes out of nowhere, I read the big bang theory and I kinda believe I only believe through the fact that it was created, not that it was just suddenly created out of nothing

 

[Shinobi Train]

I just want someone to prove to me how stuff just comes out of nowhere, I read the big bang theory and I kinda believe I only believe through the fact that it was created, not that it was just suddenly created

What the issue is though is that there is no proof for atheism or theism. If there was proof, then this would have been settled a long time ago, but frankly a theist cannot summon the creator and show him to people, and atheists have giant holes through all their theories like swiss cheese.

This debate will never end, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I usually try to stay out of these things because debating the topic is pointless since I can't convince the other side no matter or vice versa. It seems I just can't help myself though... xd

 

[AngryRock]

Well u dont seem to know anything about a lot of things:

1. LOL, if there was only one language why was there the need of changing it to different sects? There is no real logic behind it. Also all languages didnt just come into being, damn Native Austalians dont have a written language. Also is all languages have common ancestry why is Arabic, Chinese, Japanese written in a different manner? Also wont the word of God propagted better if there was one language only? Also why isnt this fact recorded in other languages and culture? Also why does the Bible dont give reference to America or Australia?

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Hebrew died before the time of the Roman Occupation (the Jews in Jesus's times actually spoke Aramaic -- not Hebrew), and the Hebrew language became revived in the Zionist Movement of the late 19th Century, so it's not the "oldest spoken language" in the world.

Sanskrit also died a few thousand years ago. But most of the major languages of India & Pakistan derive from Sanskrit ... much like Latin died and no one speaks Latin anymore, but French, Spanish, Italian came from Latin.

A language is considered "dead" when it has no more native speakers. Langauges evolve and change over time. English for example sound and looks completely different than it did just 100 years ago.

The Basque are probably a pocket of people who speak a really old *continuous* language directly linked to one of humans earliest language systems. Most scholars think they are pre-Indo-European peoples in Europe.

I'd think some of the languages in Iraq or Iran might be some of the oldest *continuous* languages spoken (esp. Assyrian or "Neo-Aramaic" in Iraq since they can be traced back in writting almost 5,000 years). But since these languages can trace themsleves back to older parent languages, they are proably no more than a few thousand years old.

2. The Bible said the earth was flat, the Sun revolved around the Earth (Poor Galelio, Copernicus), Strange stories behind the Eclipse, Heavens are up in the cloud etc but guess what all that was wrong. Also i understand Adam and Eve having *** to have children, but whith whom did children of Adam and Eve have *** with? (I will ignore the nuber of children they said to have reproduced, adam said to have lived 930 year, LOL) Surely brothers had *** with their sisters, that makes incest lawful right?

3. Be careful ur giving credit evolution theory. LOL perhaps u dont know that black people can give birth only to black children, chinese only to keeds with smaller eyes etc or if ur assumption was correct we would see a white Chinese among the african blacks , a white black (black people have a distingushed facial feature) among the Chinese and a poodle among the bull dogs. If they had common DNA materials they wld have multitude of variations.

4. Well copper, iron, silicon etc existed from the very begining. How come they discover aluminium only few hundred years ago. Its not even hard to find some mineral grains and make fire works? Its even easier to make bricks and use mortar, its not even hard to make a wind mill or make a kite to fly. This can go on.

Also how can punishing some one who didnt have sense of good or bad is appropriate? They are like innocent children.

5. Cant really argue with that, but a lot of people are already in hell for that delay. That is not really fair treatment.



Opinion changes but truth never changes. Its arrogance to say I alone am right when there is doubt.

1.Babel caused different spoken language.

2.It does not say the earth is flat.

3.Adam and Eve's kids would marry and have children with each other. God said it was fine until a certain point in time. That early in human creation you would not have birth problems caused by inbreeding.

4.I am not giving credit to evolution. The cat stays a cat and dogs stay dogs. No matter what changes animals go through they stay the exact same species they started with and the only changes are caused by what is in their DNA. This is based off of observable fact and can be tested and has been tested.

5.Black people have shown to have white children and vice versa. What you are forgetting(or perhaps ignoring) is that when Noah and his family were the last ones alive the gene pool also gets cut off and then when people wen't around the world after the babel incident the gene pool would become even more restricted causing looks of people that can be easily identified for the region they were in.

6.No matter what Adam and Eve did God still told Adam that they could not eat from the tree or else they would die. So they obviously new what death was.

7.You make it seem easy to get technology but lets put you in a jungle and even if you know how to make a super computer you still couldn't make it because it would take more than your lifetime to obtain the right materials, parts, etc... while having to make a place to call home and have a food source.

 

[AngryRock]

You lost me after I read your opinion, "If you take the thought that there was a designer seriously the designing would be particularly incompetent because there are so many ways in which the universe could be better. Ones human body is a mess of bad design features." What do you define as better, me having super powers or perfect health, your attempting to look at a picture with a limited scope.

It was created perfectly but made imperfect by sin.

 

[AngryRock]

I just got done watching George Carlin videos. (There was relevance to telling you that.) I find it impossible for some man in the sky to exist. He "loves" you but if you break one of his 7 rules; he sends your ass to a place of eternal suffering. But he still loves you! How does that sound more believable than other religion's "Gods". The reason I'm so confused is because you Christian fanatics lose your damn mind if someone has a good solid reason to say God is not real. As if you know there is a chance your religion is total BS.

Break one of 7 rules? All you have to do is sin and you are not accepted into heaven.

 

[AngryRock]

I believe God is a system created by us humans so we can blame some one for our mistakes , thank him if we are happy and ask for his help if we are desperate ......

If man's mind comes from evolution and man's mind invented God then is religion not part of evolution?