[Predictions] Naruto Manga 433 Predictions / 432 Discussion

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ok so lets say u do know something....only u know it....
wat i am saying is... i dont come on here and make up stuff....
usually im responding to ppls opinions and theorys most the time...

I never say something i dont think is tru....
everything i say is based off of the manga....

i got a thread called lets talk kishi pein madara and power & hokage...
Something like that....everything in that thread is true....
but its mostly aimed at how things is akward towards power & younger generations surpassing the old ones....
these are things that kishi said himself mid last year and some of the things have become true ofter that and some are waiting to be confirmed.

if they are true this manga is gonna become more EPIC then it already is
 

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hey man the reason im saying that you might be wrong is because i know of something that you might not know of. i don't think i posted it here.

i won't post it yet, if at all.
Why'd you even say something, then? Come on man! Tell us what you know... if you really do. And where did you get the info?

i don't think Jiraya would teach naruto the shinigami jutsu because it will mean naruto's death. and only hokage's are ment to know that technique.
What's the shinigami technique?
 
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That doesn't make sense though. How could shemake a paper clone and have her entire body be made up of paper if she asnt manipulating the actual element of wood and was instead maniulating readily available materials?

The only other instance I can recall of something like this is during Narutos fight with Gaara when Gamabunta spat oil at Garaa and it was narutos job to light it. But these two things are almost incomparable.
i see wat ur saying.....
but its like u asking how can garra make sand clones...
or how can kakashi make lightning clones....
and thats not their kekki genkai....

so like ppl can make clones out of watever element they use....
sand....lightning....rock....paper...water....
 

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these are things that kishi said himself mid last year and some of the things have become true ofter that and some are waiting to be confirmed.

if they are true this manga is gonna become more EPIC then it already is
ok thats fine and dandy...
not doubtin u or kishi....
but if u think logically and not jus wat u see in the manga....
u would know wat i mean....

heres a scenario....
ppl believe pein is the baddest eva cuz kishi said he has the most powerful eye technique But power doesnt mean anything if u have not perfected it and mastered it...

even madara said he had to keep a few tricks away from itachi...
 

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Not ARGUING with anyone, but since everyone else is, I'll put in my two cents: I think Naruto probably is STRONGER than Jiraiya and Minato, but that doesn't mean he's better. He does need the experience, restraint, and more jutsus. He's pretty STRONG, though. His potential is definitely greater (especially since the other two are dead). He still has a lot of growing up to do (physically, emotionally, and ninjally), though.
 
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look im not gonna say all the points which are over 10. i will give you 1 quote now.

first of all, I would like to warn you all about this, these are Kishi's preview that aren't confirmed yet*; however, most of them seems quite true/confirmed
*Kishi said this preview before 2008 Jump Festa.

Naruto's new skills and the result of the training will reveal when he fight against Pain. He have learned all of the Jiraiya's jutsu during the 3 years of the time and he became much stronger. He did not learn the "toad mode or w.e u call it". Naruto also learned 3 of the 4th's jutsus.
thats one of the things he said, the 3 of 4ths techniques can't be rasengan because he learned it way before they went out to training and i hope naruto uses at least 1 of the 3.

and it also proves that from what we have seen so far this is most likely true from what naruto's shown in this fight, and thats the reason i think hes got much more up his sleeves, because he doesn't look as worried as 1 should when they are fighting pein.

AND Japhrimu what you say above is true i agree with you.

IT WAS TRANSLATED FROM JAPANESE.
 
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Not ARGUING with anyone, but since everyone else is, I'll put in my two cents: I think Naruto probably is STRONGER than Jiraiya and Minato, but that doesn't mean he's better. He does need the experience, restraint, and more jutsus. He's pretty STRONG, though. His potential is definitely greater (especially since the other two are dead). He still has a lot of growing up to do (physically, emotionally, and ninjally), though.
yea narutos stronger strength wise....
i have never said he wasnt...

but hes jus not better than jiriya or the 4th....
man to man naruto would get his ass handed to him....

honestly jiriya was in sage mode longer than naruto...(dunno if it was cause ma & pa toad)
but jiriya stayed in sage mode....He didnt come out untill ma toad left....

But considering jiriya went head up wit pein by his self b4 he was ever in sage mode...
shows wat type of strength...Intelligence...& how good a ninja he was....

Narutos stronger than kakshi....Power wise....
But no way he can see kakashi head up....

& ppl get that confused wit naruto havin fox chakra....He cant even control it....
I think thats a skill u cant count....
Sage mode is summin he can control but if he doesnt take u out asap...
then wat happens when he runs out of sage ?

Naruto has to get smart and have game plans....
he has to become the ninja he spose to be...
Not the ninja everybodys proclaimin he is...
 

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i see wat ur saying.....
but its like u asking how can garra make sand clones...
or how can kakashi make lightning clones....
and thats not their kekki genkai....

so like ppl can make clones out of watever element they use....
sand....lightning....rock....paper...water....
The kekki genkai has nothing to do with cones. that's just teir elemental afinnity. Kakashi was lightning nature (btw, when he had a sharinganran transfer would that have allowed him to combine two elements as a sharingan is a kekki genkai? If so, why did we never see him do this?), Gaara was earth nature (aka Sand), Zabuzas was water, even the abarame (sp, bug guys) can make clones with their bugs. In fact the only cloning jutsu that seems to break the elemtal theme is Kagebushin, since shadow isn't technically an element.

To further prove my point Yamato can make wood clones, but he can only do that because he hs the proper kekki genkai. He doesn't walk up to a tree and make a clone out of it in the same way Kakashi doesn't grab a lightning bolt and make a clone from that. Therefore it stands to reason se is manipulating the elemnts to create paper, not simply using paper to create a clone. If the latter were the case everyon would be using fire and wood and earth and wind etc clones.
 
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yea narutos stronger strength wise....
i have never said he wasnt...

but hes jus not better than jiriya or the 4th....
man to man naruto would get his ass handed to him....

honestly jiriya was in sage mode longer than naruto...(dunno if it was cause ma & pa toad)
but jiriya stayed in sage mode....He didnt come out untill ma toad left....

But considering jiriya went head up wit pein by his self b4 he was ever in sage mode...
shows wat type of strength...Intelligence...& how good a ninja he was....

Narutos stronger than kakshi....Power wise....
But no way he can see kakashi head up....

& ppl get that confused wit naruto havin fox chakra....He cant even control it....
I think thats a skill u cant count....
Sage mode is summin he can control but if he doesnt take u out asap...
then wat happens when he runs out of sage ?

Naruto has to get smart and have game plans....
he has to become the ninja he spose to be...
Not the ninja everybodys proclaimin he is...
what you are saying is true.

but thats the type of fighter naruto is and always has been until he had a fight with the other akasuki. and meercy we will really find out if naruto can beat Jiraya and 4th strategy wise in the next few chapters gotta be patient.

the comment you made about kakashi is completely wrong. kakashi couldn't even touch God realm and that robot guy that naruto took out easily and i think hes smarter or on the same level as kakashi in strategy wise (the fight against kakuza proved that), kakashi never thought that you could through FRS but naruto made it possible on his own.

I think he will be able to kill Pein which will prove that naruto is stronger and don't say pein will lose because of that technique he did because the only body that was affected by it was the Dave Realm and naruto took out the others easily (remember jiraya had trouble with taking 3 of them out?)

and yea the reason Jiraya could stay in Sage mode longer was because of Pa and Ma but that doesn't mean naruto can't (he might have mastered collecting it while moving on his own or will master it.)
 
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As far as the whole "perfected" thing of jutsus, I think that's silly also. Any jutsu could be perfected even better. Take rasengan for instance. What if he could throw it, then control where it flew in mid-flight, and it was invisible, and made sure whatever it hit dies, then comes back to Naruto so he can reabsorb the chakra. See?
 

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Sorry about thelate response on this but somone said "The only pain affected by Shinra Tensi was Deva Realm." and I feel obligated to point out that you are dead wrong.
1. If Deva (Yohiko) was the only one affectd whyd the other 5 fall flat on their face.
2. Lets not forget that ALL 6 PAINS draw their chakra from Nagato. This means two things. A. Nagato has an insane amount of chakra. B. He must surely be taxing that chakra pool.

What happens when you start running low on chakra (lit. life force) you get weak. hence the sad state of pains 6 bodies and that's why naruto can take them down one after the other. If yyou xhaust all your chakra you die, as seen by Kakashi.
 

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Man, I just re-read chapter 431 and 432 and Naruto?s growth is amazing. The way he rejected the giant Bull summoned by Pain and then created two giant Rasengans, like the one Jiraya did before, it?s great.

But his greatness makes me think about Pain?s greatness also, and that?s when I get the goosebumps. We all know what Pain has done in Konoha..., not even Orochimaru with the support of the sand village (Gaara included) and his subordinates in the sound village (Kabuto included), made such a huge scale destruction (Not even 10% of what Nagato has done by himself)..., I mean, from what I know, not even the Kyubi made such a mess.

At the moment he?s fighting Naruto and the strongest frogs from Mukyubo (The frog?s world.., I think I spelled it wrong)..., and each one of them (the frogs) may proyect a Sanin like power..., so they aren?t just some simple frogs that naruto has with him. Pa and Ma have Genjutsu and have already used it against Pains Summonings, etc...

Something else to think about is that all these frogs and Naruto are fresh into battle, and each one of them is very strong..., while Pain is a little worn out after almost whipping off Konoha from Earth... And besides of beinig worn out, he?s at a disadvantage... we have like 6 to one...., and yes, Pain is only one.

Even though he has six bodies, remember that those are corpses, and it doesn?t matter who the dead body belonged to, because Nagato just transmits his power through the body he chooses. IT?S 100% Nagato.., from miles away.., but it?s just one guy who?s causing all this mess, and he doesn?t has a single scratch by the way..., it?s creepy. (That?s why Itachi followed his orders..., he?s the legendary Rinnegan user.., only one rinnegan user may exist at a time... and it?s Nagato?s time).

I remember when Jiraya spoke about the training he had with Nagato, Yahiko and Konan..., and he said that Nagato managed to control all five elements in just two years (correct me if I?m wrong about the time J-man passed with them). Nagato must be terrifying when he fights in person. Remember when Naruto did the FRS agains Kakusu??.., Kakusu got scared.., but Nagato was so confident that he even provoked Naruto into fighting him while he has holding the RS in his hand. (He said, Come quietly.., your death will lead to peace).

The way he summons all those gigantic animals..., I mean, remember when the three sanin fought each other, and each one made their own summoning (Manda, Katsuyu and Gamabunta), they made it look like something that very few and powerful ninjas in the world could do..., and they were right..., but now we see Nagato summoning like if he was just farting.., one sumon after another as it was that easy (how much chakra does Nagato have??)..., up to the point in which he has Naruto and the frogs exhausted, and ironicaly, God Realm should be about to recover.
Nagato?s epic.

:teampein:
 

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the comment you made about kakashi is completely wrong. kakashi couldn't even touch God realm and that robot guy that naruto took out easily and i think hes smarter or on the same level as kakashi in strategy wise (the fight against kakuza proved that), kakashi never thought that you could through FRS but naruto made it possible on his own.

I think he will be able to kill Pein which will prove that naruto is stronger and don't say pein will lose because of that technique he did because the only body that was affected by it was the Dave Realm and naruto took out the others easily (remember jiraya had trouble with taking 3 of them out?)
Kakashi didnt touch god realm cause of deva realm...
if god realm didnt call for deva realm he would have got that chidori to his chest...
I know u seen that right ?..But that goes to show u how smart kakashi was & how he planned to get god realm....Even tho he used tram work...He had a great plan...If naruto had that then we could truly say he has passed kakshi...

i mean naruto made it possable to throw FRS cause he used sage mode....
im not discreditin wat naruto has accomplished....but power ups help u...

Its like the sasuke vs itachi battle....
Sasuke couldnt have broke tyskuyomi wit out the curse seal....
he used the curse seal to get out...reg sasuke couldnt have done it....

and i dont even like pein 6 bodies....
i think they totally wack...
negato may be a problem but his bodies isnt....
jiriya could have beat then if he knew his secret....
and jiriya didnt have trouble really....i jus dont see how ppl can see he struggled fightin pein...he just didnt now peins secret...
 

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The way he summons all those gigantic animals..., I mean, remember when the three sanin fought each other, and each one made their own summoning (Manda, Katsuyu and Gamabunta), they made it look like something that very few and powerful ninjas in the world could do..., and they were right..., but now we see Nagato summoning like if he was just farting.., one sumon after another as it was that easy (how much chakra does Nagato have??)..., up to the point in which he has Naruto and the frogs exhausted, and ironicaly, God Realm should be about to recover.
Nagato?s epic.

:teampein:
That's funny. :D

I'm guessing that Nagato has somehow found a way to use dead bodies as chakra batteries. Kind of like a Narato-verse version of the Matrix. He's been collecting dead bodies in his tower for YEARS! He can control dead bodies, as we're seeing now, so he probably somehow has all those other dead bodies producing chakra which he's harvesting.
 

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By the way, on the subject of chakra pools, how much chakra did Tsunande have? I mean, my god. the fact that she was healing the villagers BEFORE shinra Tensi and then protected ALL of them from certain annialation during the fact and didn't fall down dead immediately, that speaks volumes.
 

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(That?s why Itachi followed his orders..., he?s the legendary Rinnegan user.., only one rinnegan user may exist at a time... and it?s Nagato?s time).

The way he summons all those gigantic animals..., I mean, remember when the three sanin fought each other, and each one made their own summoning (Manda, Katsuyu and Gamabunta), they made it look like something that very few and powerful ninjas in the world could do..., and they were right..., but now we see Nagato summoning like if he was just farting.., one sumon after another as it was that easy (how much chakra does Nagato have??)..., up to the point in which he has Naruto and the frogs exhausted, and ironicaly, God Realm should be about to recover.
Nagato?s epic.

:teampein:
itachi didnt care about pein....he had one mission..to eithier take out madara....
or make sasuke become strong enuff to do it....
So why does pein follow madaras orders ? lol...

And yea pein is summonin animals left and right....
but i recall sakura punching one to the ground and it neva got back up...lol...
so wat if she was jus doin that consistantly....
And naruto can stop them 2..I say put them on the battlefield and wat animal can stop them ? And since im talkin about sakura....I think shes better than wat everybody think she is....She proved that fighting saori...Even tho she had helped...
 

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That's funny. :D

I'm guessing that Nagato has somehow found a way to use dead bodies as chakra batteries. Kind of like a Narato-verse version of the Matrix. He's been collecting dead bodies in his tower for YEARS! He can control dead bodies, as we're seeing now, so he probably somehow has all those other dead bodies producing chakra which he's harvesting.
pein has ova 30 bodies in his lil tower....
 
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