hmm its very hard to understand your english man...specially the last statement, well just to make things short; naruto already surpassed jiraiya and 4th hokage; he already mastered their unperfected jutsus...
completely mastered jiraiya's sage mode...
completely mastered 4th's nature manipulated rasengan...
take note that both masters failed to complete their techniques while naruto perfected it all...and when you backread the chapters, you'd see that some characters mentioned that he already surpassed the older generation...
the only thing naruto doesnt have right now is experience...
theres nothin wrong wit my english....
u jus refused to read the mistakes i made in my spelling...
naruto hasnt really surpassed nobody.....
he was a narutal sage user...ov course he was gone pass jiriya....as a sage user...
he cant out do j-man in sage fighting....point blank.....
he hasnt mastered the 4th manipulation rasengan....
naruto had to use the jutsu in sage mode and thats jus so he wont get hurt....
you have to use logic....
naruto cant do anything but make clones correctly outside of fox chakra and sage mode..
and naruto aint perfected anything....
and yes their saying he has surpassed them, but obviously....
naruto cant beat kakshi flat out...
hes not goin to beat jiriya flat out....
he cant beat the 4th eithier....
jus cause naruto can use strong techniques dont mean hes the best....
its like u tellin me naruto can whoop itachi....lol..
and no....