Do you believe in God?

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  • I Believe In God

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  • I Am An Agnostic

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  • I Am An Atheist

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I would just like to ask everybody a few questions. Do you know the odds that our planet somehow formed in the perfect spot with the perfect materials to sustain life today? Do you know the odds that mutations occurred in certain organisms at certain times in certain ways to end up the way we are today? Do you know the odds that these mutations would differentiate in such a way to create the diversity of life today? There is a chance that all the air in the room you are in right now would accumulate in one corner of the room leaving a vacuum in the rest. This is highly improbable but still has a higher chance of happening than the odds in my previous questions. This is why I believe in a higher being who created an intelligent design. Who said that this design had to be perfect? or easy for those abiding in it? Just because we have no scientific proof of something existing doesn't mean we have proof of it not existing. The odds are that there is something greater than us. I don't know what it is exactly but I am confident in my relationship with the Christian God. What do I have to lose?

Edit: To people wondering what created the creater. What created the first mass and energy in the universe? If you believe in the findings and theories in science of the beginning of our universe then you believe that some things where just there and have always been.

To the people wondering how evolution plays into the way the Bible explains how God created our world. It is said in the Bible that a day to God is much longer to us. The 7 "days" that God created Earth could have been millions of years in our sense of time.

This^. Let's see anybody counter this brilliant post because I see alot of people skipped over it or didn't see it.

I beleive in God(Jahovah/Yaweh) BTW.
 
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Each person will be recreated fron the last bone in the spinal cord when the 2nd trumpmet will be blown.....

U believe in bigbang...
Well truly Allah created the universe with one big blast....
Had there been a miscalculation in thay blast of even 0.000000000
It wudnt have been successful, so this cudnt have happenes on its own, sm1 must have done it, who is Allah

Al i can do us pray that Allah shows u the right path and guides u,
For u wont b able to do nything on the judgement when He asks u why u were astray....

If he asks why was i astray my answer wld be that He did not give me reason enough to believe, if he had given any sign i wld not have denied him anything he asked. Also u are actually avoiding my question and talking irrelevantly:

I m touched by you crying over me, but i will take my chances: If confessions and repentance can forgive hardcore murderers and criminals, i think i can be forgiven too, even at the last moment

As I asked before:

If there is total resurrection Judgement Day how will be the people who were born before Jesus or Mohemmad (praise they be) will be judged? They didnt actually get the massage. (In fact nor did i, none of the preachers came to my family and showed me the truth nor did give me any sign/vision etc) Also how many generations of Chinese, Japanese, Australian, Native American, Indian etc people had to wait till they got the massage? They all should be in hell as they are non believers ..... thats not fair is it?



U didnt answer the above.




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This^. Let's see anybody counter this brilliant post because I see alot of people skipped over it or didn't see it.

I beleive in God(Jahovah/Yaweh) BTW.


Thats a really good argument . . . . Even if the theory of evolution is absolutely true that wld not mean that God is not there, evolution can very well be one of the tool he designed to propagate creation. There are about 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars and there can be about 800,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 plants and few of them may have life forms. What i dont believe is that God is a entity that just concentrates on us when there are about 800,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets to look after or that he is relatively human shaped or that he interferes much with mortal life (at least now a days we see to much evil) . . . . he can be the very driving force that keeps the fabric and clock works of the universe together.

PS If one religion is validated what about others? All of the religion have their prophets, books and lessons by God/Gods themselves ..... yet they have different stories. The one God or group Gods cant tell different stories to different people.

What said in my first post:

Well I believe in God but not any perticular religion. I was born a Hindu, studied in Cristian school, had a very good Muslim friend and studied about Buddhism a bit. I believe i god but no the way most people see it, to me God is not some human shaped almighty figure, the universe is far too big and we humans far too insignificant and foolish to be center of God's creation. Rather God to me is the ultimate law that guides the course of universe, u wld notice that very atoms and molecules itself strive to attain a perfectly stable state.... to me God is that perfection that everything living and non biological try to obtain. U ask why? Its because there is too much order in the chaos of the world to be just coincidence... there must be a ultimate law or driving force that pushes the world along its path. That makes me a deist i think.
 
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This^. Let's see anybody counter this brilliant post because I see alot of people skipped over it or didn't see it.

I beleive in God(Jahovah/Yaweh) BTW.

The odds, for a creator are less than the odds against a creator, IMO, since we do not know for a fact nor can be theorize that a creator exist; While we can theoretical predict how life can come about without a creator...
 
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This^. Let's see anybody counter this brilliant post because I see alot of people skipped over it or didn't see it.

I beleive in God(Jahovah/Yaweh) BTW.

That dosent tell you anything if your god exist or not, by your claims ALL RELGIONS CAN BE TRUE why should just YOUR religion be THE ONE and ONLY?

And Probability or not dosent ethier tell you that a god created everything, yes it tells us the chances for us to occur to be unlikely BUT still why should it give us reason to beleive in god?

All these claims dosent prove any god, bible, jesus and so on its not proof when its 2000 year old paper that were wrote by anynomous authours......
 

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I believe in God because I don't think that we're all here by accident, and I still don't get the big bang theory cause how can something come out of nothing? The theory says the Universe was once in an extremely hot and dense state which expanded rapidly. Explaining that the Universe was in a hot and dense state doesn't explain where the universe came from. I would understand if there was an intelligent being beyond our level of understanding.
 

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1) i'm not sure how much of that website you should take seriously, "official" is a lose term.

What is wrong with pride liberty and individualism? Yes its BASED off the abrahamic satan, if i said otherwise then i misspoke. But its not what christians/jews/muslims think it is. The common perception is that satanists go around sacrificing babies and burning churches. A lot of that representation comes from the norwegian black/satanic metal incidents. Which is not a true representation of the religion becayse they were pagans, not satanists. If you saw a satanist walking down the street you probably wouldn't even know.

For the last time, I am not Christian. I don't have the knowlege of the Bible, that you keep insulting. Being a Muslim, I have respect for Bible because we believe that Jesus(p.b.u.h) was a messenger of God. We dont stand for the Bible to be insulted.

The crow will never become white by calling it white. What is Satan?
It is based on the concept of the devil from our religions. how can you say that Satanism is something entirely new. Even the name is derived from the Arabic word Shaitan. and you defend yourself by saying that it is something entirely new. Satan is the negative force described by the believers. Someone makes a new religion, worshiping the evil described in our religion. And you expect me to say that Satanism is a new religion? Go get your info right kid.
 
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No, I do not believe in God.

Why? Because once I became interested in science, he fell off the map for me.

Any of you believers ever imagine what you would do if you were a god? I bet you think you'd do a better job or things differently.

Not only does this show that you are displeased with his "actions", but it also tells me you think you have some sort of superiority when it comes to running a universe.

But hey, that's just IF you think you can do a better job. Just 1 question: If you were God, would you allow millions of babies to starve? The innocent to be raped and murdered? The evil to prosper?
If you said no, I'm happy for you.

You are very stupid my dear brother. U see, Thats Satans bad works not Gods Fault. Go read the bible.
 

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I believe in God because I don't think that we're all here by accident, and I still don't get the big bang theory cause how can something come out of nothing? The theory says the Universe was once in an extremely hot and dense state which expanded rapidly. Explaining that the Universe was in a hot and dense state doesn't explain where the universe came from. I would understand if there was an intelligent being beyond our level of understanding.

Then the question arises again: who created god? As you said something cannot come out of nothing. So god just complicates things unnecessarily. Besides: so religious people think that there is an almighty god who have been existing for eternity and he has emotions like us and stuff.One day it occured to him that he should create some angels/other beings like him. Then he thought :'Ok now lets create inferior beings too .' Then he let his perfect creation to decay but he had a back up plan ... And if I dont believe this I'm a bad person and I'll burn in hell for ever...cool story but if i'm so stupid that I am wrong I'll take the responsibility.
 

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I'm Agnostic. I think it is possible, but it does not make sense.! Some invisible man in the sky made EVERYTHING. All the bible is ; is a book that ignorant people thought was real.

He's only invisible because your not opening your eyes. And trust me the bible is real. I suggest read Revelations so you know when the End Times of this world will begin
 

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The odds, for a creator are less than the odds against a creator, IMO, since we do not know for a fact nor can be theorize that a creator exist; While we can theoretical predict how life can come about without a creator...

The christians still beleive in God and his son Jesus Christ because most have read and understood the bible,devoted their lives to God and became saved and have witnessed His miracle working power themselves. Many have been on the brink of death but called on the name of Jesus and was saved/healed.These people fast and talk with God through prayer. They themselves are the proof of God's miracles and existence.

Now you,a person who has not put in the devotion to have read the entire bible and/or try to understand it or have not gone to a good church to listen to a good pastor(there are false prophets who give christians a bad name) and have not fasted or prayed for Jesus or God;know almost nothing about Christianity or God and have no right to judge,label or try to bring it down.

You rely on Science because it has "proof". Science is nothing but man-made theories and ideas. Your "proof" makes sense according to your natural mind but God and his works are supernatural. He does not have to match up with our science and logic. So before somebody repeats "Well,who created God since something can't be made out of nothing" remember that is our natural way of thinking but God is supernatural.

This is not only directed to you but to any other atheists.
 
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For the last time, I am not Christian. I don't have the knowlege of the Bible, that you keep insulting. Being a Muslim, I have respect for Bible because we believe that Jesus(p.b.u.h) was a messenger of God. We dont stand for the Bible to be insulted.

The crow will never become white by calling it white. What is Satan?
It is based on the concept of the devil from our religions. how can you say that Satanism is something entirely new. Even the name is derived from the Arabic word Shaitan. and you defend yourself by saying that it is something entirely new. Satan is the negative force described by the believers. Someone makes a new religion, worshiping the evil described in our religion. And you expect me to say that Satanism is a new religion? what a piece of crap! Go get your info right kid, if not, go suck on a straw for all i care.

Ok this is a rather stupid question but since ur a rather unbiased and informed person i want to ask: If Satan is bad why does he punish bad people? If he punishes bad people then he should be good no? Usually when a bad another like him wont he go like: "Yo man! your bad like me, lets go trouble the innocent people together" . . . i actually never got this Satan being evil concept because of this reason.
 

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I m touched by you crying over me, but i will take my chances: If confessions and repentance can forgive hardcore murderers and criminals, i think i can be forgiven too, even at the last moment ;)

As I said before:

If there is grave digging at Judgement Day how will be the people who were born before Jesus or Mohemmad (praise they be) will be judged? They didnt actually get the massage. (In fact nor did i, none of the preachers came to my family and showed me the truth) Also how many generations of Chinese, Japanese, Australian, Native American, Indian etc people had to wait till they got the massage? They all should be in hell as they are non believers ..... thats not fair is it?
Believe in your principles if u like, but dont condemn others or you will be giving your people a bad name.


U didnt answer the above.

Since Adam, there have been 124000 messengers from God. They have come to the earth in every corner. They have delivered the message of God throughout the ages. It is their original religion that has transformed into modern Religions. The religion of Abraham was the one who would go to paradise in his era. the followers of Jesus would go to Paradise in his era. each era in which the prophets gave their message and his true followers followed their prophets, would go to Paradise. And this chain of messengers started from Adam continued to Noah to Abraham to Moses to Jesus to Mohammed(peace be upon them all) and many in between them. for all we know, even Buddha might have been one of those messengers.

Now, what mankind does, is that it makes alterations in the original message of God for its own easiness/logic. once that happens, God sends a new Prophet. Now, Prophet Mohammed has clearly said that there will be no more messengers from God, because the Holy Quran will remain unchanged for eternity. That is why, there hasnt been a change in a single letter or fullstop in the text of the Quran. Oh and We, the Muslims were told by our Prophet Mohammed, that Jesus(p.b.u.h) will come again to help us when Anti-Christ(Dajjal in Arabic) will come to rule the World.

I hope that answers your question.
 

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Ok this is a rather stupid question but since ur a rather unbiased and informed person i want to ask: If Satan is bad why does he punish bad people? If he punishes bad people then he should be good no? Usually when a bad another like him wont he go like: "Yo man! your bad like me, lets go trouble the innocent people together" . . . i actually never got this Satan being evil concept because of this reason.

Satan will do bad things to you regaurdless of your moral allignment because he just plain out hates mankind. Also he loves bad deeds as they hurt God and get you closer to his goal: To bring as much people to hell with him as he can.
 

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The christians still beleive in God and his son Jesus Christ because most have read and understood the bible,devoted their lives to God and became saved and have witnessed His miracle working power themselves. Many have been on the brink of death but called on the name of Jesus and was saved/healed.These people fast and talk with God through prayer. They themselves are the proof of God's miracles and existence.

Now you,a person who has not put in the devotion to have read the entire bible and/or try to understand it or have not gone to a good church to listen to a good pastor(there are false prophets who give christians a bad name) and have not fasted or prayed for Jesus or God;know almost nothing about Christianity or God and have no right to judge,label or try to bring it down.

You rely on Science because it has "proof". Science is nothing but man-made theories and ideas. Your "proof" makes sense according to your natural mind but God and his works are supernatural. He does not have to match up with our science and logic. So before somebody repeats "Well,who created God since something can't be made out of nothing" remember that is our natural way of thinking but God is supernatural.

This is not only directed to you but to any other atheists.

Science, the man made theories and ideas too saved millions of people from their death bed, cures and heals nearly everyone be he a believer or not, allowed man to go to moon, master electricity etc so watch what your saying.

Also not only Christians, but Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Shamanists every other religions had miracles . . . . so all of them are true with their origin stories?
 

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The christians still beleive in God and his son Jesus Christ because most have read and understood the bible,devoted their lives to God and became saved and have witnessed His miracle working power themselves. Many have been on the brink of death but called on the name of Jesus and was saved/healed.These people fast and talk with God through prayer. They themselves are the proof of God's miracles and existence.

Now you,a person who has not put in the devotion to have read the entire bible and/or try to understand it or have not gone to a good church to listen to a good pastor(there are false prophets who give christians a bad name) and have not fasted or prayed for Jesus or God;know almost nothing about Christianity or God and have no right to judge,label or try to bring it down.

You rely on Science because it has "proof". Science is nothing but man-made theories and ideas. Your "proof" makes sense according to your natural mind but God and his works are supernatural. He does not have to match up with our science and logic. So before somebody repeats "Well,who created God since something can't be made out of nothing" remember that is our natural way of thinking but God is supernatural.

This is not only directed to you but to any other atheists.

Not only did you unfairly judge me but also ever other atheist...

Is religion not a man-made system of beliefs?

The theories and ideas of science are man-made but proven by Nature...

You fight for your God but those your God fight for you?
 

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Ok this is a rather stupid question but since ur a rather unbiased and informed person i want to ask: If Satan is bad why does he punish bad people? If he punishes bad people then he should be good no? Usually when a bad another like him wont he go like: "Yo man! your bad like me, lets go trouble the innocent people together" . . . i actually never got this Satan being evil concept because of this reason.

No no no! who said Satan punishes bad people? maybe I am not getting what you want to say.
 
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Satan will do bad things to you regaurdless of your moral allignment because he just plain out hates mankind. Also he loves bad deeds as they hurt God and get you closer to his goal: To bring as much people to hell with him as he can.

Satan happened to be be Lucifer the greatest Archangel . . . its clear that he rebelled against God and envied him, he had and still not have any real motive to hate humanity. Also people those who bring him near his goal are his friends no? Why should he hate those people who wld help him? He is really dumb then.

No no no! who said Satan punishes bad people? maybe I am not getting what you want to say.

Well Christians say Satan rules hell where the evil people are tortured for their crimes. Thats equals punishing no?
 

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Hmmm...I don't like talking about myself but I feel compelled(meaning I was bored -_-)

GOd In My Life-

My internet access expired two days ago. Didn't have money to renew it. I prayed yesterday and now its back(someone did it without me even asking them) ^_^

Was feeling seriously sick(just standing up hurt, as did doing anything apart from lying down plus a monster headache that somehow extended to my eye o_O). Prayed and got better. I've also prayed for someone else in this manner. Was actually amazing, it was my lil' bro, he was sick and couldn't go out and he was all curled up in bed and I prayed a short prayer and instantly he got up and went out to play.

I once told God to wake me up at exactly 7 AM(I slept really late, like 5 AM and wasn't sure I could do it myself) I suddenly woke up the next morning and it was EXAcTLY 7 AM! I was freaked cuz usually when I sleep that late I stay in bed till noon(I'm PreTTY lazy -__-).

Prayed for a specified amount of money, got it the next day.

These are very small prayers that were answered(and A LOT MORE where that came from). What can I say. I don't have a lot of big problems(I'm 15 years old ppl though I've already finished High School). The only one I consider big was when I prayed for rain to stop and it actually did. This has happened many times.

God is real and for some reason He's using his power for my little requests o_O(well, I know the reason its cuz He loves me ^_^ even though I'm a HUGE screw up). I don't ask for big things like a million dollars cuz I know I won't be expecting an answer so I won't get it, though some day I hope to achieve such a level of faith.

If you think I'm crazy then FYI I don't give a damn. Have fun. ^_^

Another one-yesterday I went to Church(a Church in another town which is a two hour drive from where I live so there's no way the preacher could've known) and in that Church my Dad was called out by the preacher by name. The preacher told him every problem he was currently facing and prayed for him. Also there were a lot of people who experienced the same thing, they were called out by name and surname, place they're from then having their problems; health or otherwise explained to them and prayed for.
 
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Hmmm...I don't like talking about myself but I feel compelled(meaning I was bored -_-)

GOd In My Life-

My internet access expired two days ago. Didn't have money to renew it. I prayed yesterday and now its back(someone did it without me even asking them) ^_^

Was feeling seriously sick(just standing up hurt, as did doing anything apart from lying down plus a monster headache that somehow extended to my eye o_O). Prayed and got better. I've also prayed for someone else in this manner. Was actually amazing, it was my lil' bro, he was sick and couldn't go out and he was all curled up in bed and I prayed a short prayer and instantly he got up and went out to play.

I once told God to wake me up at exactly 7 AM(I slept really late, like 5 AM and wasn't sure I could do it myself) I suddenly woke up the next morning and it was EXAcTLY 7 AM! I was freaked cuz usually when I sleep that late I stay in bed till noon(I'm PreTTY lazy -__-).

Prayed for a specified amount of money, got it the next day.

These are very small prayers that were answered(and A LOT MORE where that came from). What can I say. I don't have a lot of big problems(I'm 15 years old ppl though I've already finished High School). The only one I consider big was when I prayed for rain to stop and it actually did. This has happened many times.

God is real and for some reason He's using his power for my little requests o_O(well, I know the reason its cuz He loves me ^_^ even though I'm a HUGE screw up). I don't ask for big things like a million dollars cuz I know I won't be expecting an answer so I won't get it, though some day I hope to achieve such a level of faith.
If you think I'm crazy then FYI I don't give a damn. Have fun. ^_^

And how many prayers do you think are not answered??? Besides every religion can say a lot of cases when the prayers of the members were "answered". Does that mean that god accepts all these religions ? And by the way when I was little I ws praying for my parents to stop debating and what a miracle it didnt happen...Since then I stopped praying and what a miracle many other things I wished for have come true...Why is that...
 
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