Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside)

[The Demonic Kazekage]

Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

agreed im going with team mizukage

 

[Zayon Uchiha]

Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

agreed im going with team mizukage

Good choice

 

[NinjaTendo 64]

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far this is a nice match up i honestly wouldn't know which way to go in this fight but ima go Team Tsuchikage

 

[Zayon Uchiha]

Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

I would go with team Mizukage on this one

 

[LBeezy]

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(Sorry for the late post) but wow! This is a great thread as always!!! Nice job Negative Knight! The statistics you provide for each character is just amazing! Very descriptive and well detailed. And I can envision every attack in my mind perfectly!! A job well done bro.

Now...

On to the match up we've got..

This battle is a very debatable one. There are a lot of things that we can say to back up either team.
I'm not sure who I think would win. But I can safely say I'd probably be rooting for Muu and Kakuzu on this one.

Muu's invisibility technique make him a sneaky/tricky target to fight. Even though, yeah, we can say similar things about the Mizukages techniques also, I just feel like Muu's splitting jutsu along with the other one I just said, PLUS the detachment of the primitive world technique (if that's what its called) is just so beast!!!!!!! Its one of the best attacks out of all four of these shinobi IMO.

One thing I will say though, is Kisame is basically on a tailed beasts level! Which would definitely give any opponent a hard time. And most ninja wouldn't be able to defeat him. But I think Kakuzu having those 5 hearts will allow him to exchange some fatal blows and come up with a good strategy before he runs out of hearts. Not to mention Kakuzu's elements.

I'm honestly gonna say I feel that this would be the outcome. - the Second Mizukage would give Muu a really rough time but the Mizukage would die leaving it up to Kisame, and by that time I think Kisame would have damaged a few of Kakuzu's hearts and all of this would lead up to Muu's team winning but unfortunately, with Kakuzu dieing in the process. :/ lol sorry Negative Knight!!!! xd lol

But thats just my opinion and view on things.

 

[Zayon Uchiha]

Re: Proof that Kisame and Second Mizukage > Kakuzu and Muu (Actual Explanation Inside

(Sorry for the late post) but wow! This is a great thread as always!!! Nice job Negative Knight! The statistics you provide for each character is just amazing! Very descriptive and well detailed. And I can envision every attack in my mind perfectly!! A job well done bro.

Now...

On to the match up we've got..

This battle is a very debatable one. There are a lot of things that we can say to back up either team.
I'm not sure who I think would win. But I can safely say I'd probably be rooting for Muu and Kakuzu on this one.

Muu's invisibility technique make him a sneaky/tricky target to fight. Even though, yeah, we can say similar things about the Mizukages techniques also, I just feel like Muu's splitting jutsu along with the other one I just said, PLUS the detachment of the primitive world technique (if that's what its called) is just so beast!!!!!!! Its one of the best attacks out of all four of these shinobi IMO.

One thing I will say though, is Kisame is basically on a tailed beasts level! Which would definitely give any opponent a hard time. And most ninja wouldn't be able to defeat him. But I think Kakuzu having those 5 hearts will allow him to exchange some fatal blows and come up with a good strategy before he runs out of hearts. Not to mention Kakuzu's elements.

I'm honestly gonna say I feel that this would be the outcome. - the Second Mizukage would give Muu a really rough time but the Mizukage would die leaving it up to Kisame, and by that time I think Kisame would have damaged a few of Kakuzu's hearts and all of this would lead up to Muu's team winning but unfortunately, with Kakuzu dieing in the process. :/ lol sorry Negative Knight!!!! xd lol

But that just my opinion and view on things.

Very good comment I see where your going with this

 

[Maunten]

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Hmm.. it is a nice stretegy but it is not enough to take control of the battle, kisame will need Lots of water to perform Suiton: Senshokukō, since those Sharks are made out of water and thus all off them are vulnerable to Kakuzu's Raiton: Gian,

And Kisame himself would be in grave danger if he is in contact with the jutsu since he has no affinity to Raiton like Kakashi.

He need Mizukage by his side to stand a chance against Kakuzu,and meanwhile 'The Mummy' can wait for a chance to hit them, Kakuzu would not mind destroying one or two of his heart's if it kills his enemy's, and as much as i hate to say it Muu really has a one shot KO jutsu and if caught, neither Kisame nor Mizukage can do anything about it and if Kakuzu is not in the range he can disintegrate Kisame along with his jutsu.

True depending on the Environment, but do not forget Kisame has a lot of chakra meaning he can still make large scale of water release techs without an immediate source of water.

 

[edo x edo]

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Haha.. LOL, that is the main factor here that Samehadha has shown chakra absorbing ability but only when it was in a form of Cloak, i am not denying the fact that it can absorb Kakuzu's chakra from his body as well, but it can not tank a chakra transformed in to something else or it would have absorbed Itachi's Katon attack insted of complaining to Bee.xd

Same goes for Kisame, he was seen absorbing chakra from Aoba's chakra needle,but only when they made physical contact, so can Kisame absorb chakra from Ninjutsu, i say no, because then he is more OP then a rinnegan user and this fight is a one way trip for Kakuzu and Muu,or any other Shinobi who fights him.

hmm... not sure whether or not you are laughing at me or with me!... haha
But anyway, it seems that we share the same opinion on the matter, which is that Samahada cannot absorb chakra in the form om ninjutsu, let it be flames or whatever

 

[LBeezy]

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Very good comment I see where your going with this

Lol thank you very much!

I mean, In all honesty. it really is a tough call.

Who did you say you think would win?

 

[DeViliShChild]

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Not sure who to quote here, DeViliShChild or raju22...

Believe Samehada only absorbs chakra, in the form of chakra. It could absorb the hyper-vibrator raiton blade bacause running through the blade the chakra was still "just chakra".
When the chakra is transforms into a physical form by the means of nature manipulation, samehada can no longer absorb it because it is no longer "just chakra", but something different like lightning, fire, water, wood etc. etc. The chakra has changed into something physical.

Perhaps not the best explanation, but you'll understand it

this is a good explanation for what i was trying to argue and point out. Only difference is i believe that it can absorb some of the chakara of a nature manipulated into physical form. The fact that Samahada took the Lightening away from the pencil shows it can do that imo. Elemental manipulation is just changing the shape of chakra into "earth" "fire" "water" ect...

For example, if Kisame was fighting the first hokage, then when the wood got close enough it would lose some of the chakara flowing through it to make it move. The wood wouldn't disappear because it's a physical thing, but he would still be draining it.

 

[LBeezy]

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this is a good explanation for what i was trying to argue and point out. Only difference is i believe that it can absorb some of the chakara of a nature manipulated into physical form. The fact that Samahada took the Lightening away from the pencil shows it can do that imo. Elemental manipulation is just changing the shape of chakra into "earth" "fire" "water" ect...

For example, if Kisame was fighting the first hokage, then when the wood got close enough it would lose some of the chakara flowing through it to make it move. The wood wouldn't disappear because it's a physical thing, but he would still be draining it.

Agreed!

I believe that Kisame's Samahada will still drain the chakra out of the element it has become.

Jussayin..

 

[edo x edo]

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this is a good explanation for what i was trying to argue and point out. Only difference is i believe that it can absorb some of the chakara of a nature manipulated into physical form. The fact that Samahada took the Lightening away from the pencil shows it can do that imo. Elemental manipulation is just changing the shape of chakra into "earth" "fire" "water" ect...

For example, if Kisame was fighting the first hokage, then when the wood got close enough it would lose some of the chakara flowing through it to make it move. The wood wouldn't disappear because it's a physical thing, but he would still be draining it.

Cool, glad to hear you understood it
I'm seeing what you mean how kisame and samehada can absorb some of kakuzus jutsus, but I still believe the only way for them to win is to trap kakuzu in the giant water prison kisame used on bee in order to neutralize the seperated hearts, and i think kakuzu is to battle-hardenend and clever/prepared to let that happen, so i'm still going to give the match to kakuzu and muu.

 

[Virus..]

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Nice thread keep up the good work dued

 

[GreenV]

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Nice thread as always, though I believe team Muu wins this.

 

[Zayon Uchiha]

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Lol thank you very much!

I mean, In all honesty. it really is a tough call.

Who did you say you think would win?

I would go with team Mizukage on this one

 

[DeViliShChild]

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Cool, glad to hear you understood it
I'm seeing what you mean how kisame and samehada can absorb some of kakuzus jutsus, but I still believe the only way for them to win is to trap kakuzu in the giant water prison kisame used on bee in order to neutralize the seperated hearts, and i think kakuzu is to battle-hardenend and clever/prepared to let that happen, so i'm still going to give the match to kakuzu and muu.

I agree the water dome would most likely be necessary, but I don't think for a second Kakuzu is too "battle-hardened"
he let naruto hit him twice with a melee attack that ended up defeating him. (first time naruto hit him the move died off as it hit)

 

[JakeLife510]

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FOR ALL OF YOU (such as him ^^^) who believe Kisame is weak against raiton, you are sorely mistaken. Kisame can absorb ALL chakra based jutsu. This includes raiton attacks. Even if the water around him is electrocuted, if it is chakra based lightning, he can absorb it. The Mizukage's ability to become water however makes him weak against this. But for those of you who think raiton spells certain victory, you are wrong.

So Kisame is exactley like Preta Path? No way.

 

[amiramin]

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looks like you have spend a lot of time in typing all this

 

[xjimbox]

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I like

 

[Zayon Uchiha]

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I like

Which team do you think would win?:shrug: