Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi

[iSpeak]

Yes I have but they stated nothing about our current topic

Huh? You are trying to say that Sasuke's MS technique is Enton. I have explained in 2 different ways why Sasuke's MS technique cant be enton.
1. Itachi has it aswell.
2. Enton is a Nature type, not a technique. It has been stated many times that MS unlocks techniques (Jutsu's).

An good analogy of this is Izanami and Izanagi.

The relationship between them is fated. Izanagi is Blaze Release it exists to control the black flames of Amaterasu and Izanami is Amaterasu it decides how the flames will react.

Where are you getting all your information from? That hasn't been stated anywhere.
Amaterasu is simply the ability to cast inextinguishable flames from that eye.
Blaze Release is what you need for manipulation (which extinguishing falls under) as you can see from the pics I posted.

 

[xjimbox]

Huh? You are trying to say that Sasuke's MS technique is Enton. I have explained in 2 different ways why Sasuke's MS technique cant be enton.
1. Itachi has it aswell.
2. Enton is a Nature type, not a technique. It has been stated many times that MS unlocks techniques (Jutsu's).

It never said itachi had it ever? I wasn't to see where it shoes him use blaze release

 

[iSpeak]

It never said itachi had it ever? I wasn't to see where it shoes him use blaze release

I just showed you... look at post 214.

 

[xjimbox]

I did it didn't say anything about him using it at all. I looked over it I looked over it at my manga at home.

 

[iSpeak]

I did it didn't say anything about him using it at all. I looked over it I looked over it at my manga at home.

He put out the black flames on Sasuke's body... in order to do that you need Enton.

 

[xjimbox]

He put out the black flames on Sasuke's body... in order to do that you need Enton.

Amaterasu starts and stops the flames... Enron controls the flames...

 

[iSpeak]

Amaterasu starts and stops the flames... Enron controls the flames...

I have shown you with manga proof that Enton stops the flames. Amaterasu is the ability to cast the flames. You cant argue with it.

 

[xjimbox]

I have shown you with manga proof that Enton stops the flames. Amaterasu is the ability to cast the flames. You cant argue with it.

It didn't say that it did stop it thoe you are trying to inform me on something that didn't happen

 

[iSpeak]

It didn't say that it did stop it thoe you are trying to inform me on something that didn't happen

But you can clearly see Sasuke using his Enton eye to stop the Amaterasu flames... it is all right there in post 214.

 

[minatofan234]

Sasuke has Susanoo. Susanoo

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both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. Therefore, Sasuke has both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.

in order to awaken susanoo you need to awaken both of your ms techniques you dont neccasaraly need amaterasu and tskuyomi and even if you have them you still might not get susanoo even tobi said that susanoo is a rarity among the uchiha and now to respond to the thread yes sasuke has tskuyomi look it up in naruto wiki it says sasuke has tskuyomi and amaterasu, flame control is just an advance form of amaterasu just like itachi can control time and space in tskuyomi sasuke can control amaterasu its pretty simple

 

[OnPoint]

in order to awaken susanoo you need to awaken both of your ms techniques you dont neccasaraly need amaterasu and tskuyomi and even if you have them you still might not get susanoo even tobi said that susanoo is a rarity among the uchiha and now to respond to the thread yes sasuke has tskuyomi look it up in naruto wiki it says sasuke has tskuyomi and amaterasu, flame control is just an advance form of amaterasu just like itachi can control time and space in tskuyomi sasuke can control amaterasu its pretty simple

It's a rarity among Uchiha because it (Susanoo) can only be unlocked by awakening both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. iSpeak already debunked to idea that Enton is one of Sasuke's Mangekyou Sharingan abilities, considering it's a nature transformation and Itachi possesses it aswell.

Simply, Itachi was better at using Tsukuyomi as he was able to add time manipulation, whereas Sasuke was naturally better at Enton and manipulating the flames. Sasuke has both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.

 

[DeViliShChild]

So when the word "All" gets said, you interpret that it means "every other technique except for Tsukuyomi"... right.. so much sense that makes. Going by your logic, when Naruto uses Rasenshurkien, instead of Rasengan, it means he doesn't know how to use Rasengan which explains why he chose to use Rasenshuriken. (How much sense does that make to you?)

"P.S. Tobi's speculation, not Itachi saying it" um... Tobi is a fictional character written by Kishimoto (The creator of Naruto) who chose to make Tobi say that to Sasuke, pretty sure your argument is invalid.

/thread (I'll go ahead and take a wild guess that your next reply will be something to do with Sasuke not using Tsukuyomi when fighting Kabuto with Itachi, which is just you trying to grasp on to whatever little bit of argument you have left, even though Itachi doesn't 100% always use Tsukuyomi, he uses a normal genjutsu sometimes, so going by your logic again, it means even Itachi doesn't have the Tsukuyomi technique)

You can point to any/everything you want but the simple fact is he has never been shown to use it.

 

[ismael]

He probably used it against bee

 

[SEGA]

sasuke have tusukyomi

 

[william7]

Sasuke has Susanoo. Susanoo

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both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. Therefore, Sasuke has both Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.

He doesnt have tsukuyomi he has the ability to manipuate amaterasu :flaw:

 

[Lelouch.]

He doesnt have tsukuyomi he has the ability to manipuate amaterasu :flaw:

One ability does not exclude the other. There's not much to debate here, the databook stated that Susanoo requires the mastery of both, Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu.

 

[miino]

he has tsukuyomi not like Itachi‘s but a weaker version ,,, susanoo = amaterasu + tsukuyomi

 

[SageUzumaaki]

He used it against danzo /thread

 

[Itachi Hatake]

Sasuke does not have tsukuyomi. He has amaterasu and enton. Im disappointed in sipeak he usually is on the right side of things when I read his posts.

In amaterasu case, its only right that you can cast and stop your jutsu, Tobi stops and casts his space time ninjutsu,no? As for when Tobi says Itachi planted all his techniques into sasuke it can be safe to say that is speculation, I mean he did only see amaterasu and that was set as a defense mechanism.

As many have stated the databook says you need both ama and tsukuyomi but I however have read that every mangekyo sharingan has a unique set of abilities. Everyone assumes that madara has both but he has never shown them. Tobi hasn't, shisui has no account of it either. Enton is sasuke ability. ITACHI DOES NOT HAVE THIS ABILITY. Enton gives the flames shape, last time I checked sasuke was the only one to such. How can some of you say its advanced amaterasu? Wouldn't he do it with the same eye as Itachi did as ispeak shown? Thats because enton is a jutsu of its own!!! You need to unlock abilities in both mangekyo to unlock susanoo that's it period. What's so hard to understand that.

Some of you are going to post the databook and naruto wiki but if that's so true why doesn't enton appear under itachi's arsenal? You see how they are both contradicting? Point is Itachi doesn't have enton sasuke doesn't have tsukuyomi. "But he used it against be Bee" no he didn't just normal genjutsu just what he used against shee at that the kage summit. Sure the panel went black n white but it never stated it. "Danzo said he has it, he used it on danzo" oh yeah? Well I don't remember in the anime or manga that the screen or panel went black n white since that's the signature thing for tsukuyomi. See how that too is contradicting?

 

[Solaris Vexius]

He has it. Just doesnt use it.