Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi

[KyuubiUzumaki]

If you are referring to the Danzo fight, then Sasuke didn't do that he used a MS genjutsu. Another thing I keep saying is that whenever Tsukuyomi is used it is said so, but when Sasuke uses his MS genjutsu it isn't stated as Tsukuyomi why is that? The author has had numerous opportunities to state that Sasuke has it, but hasn't why, simply because he doesn't have it.

Secondly, each MS technique is named after a Shinto God, so what sense does it make to give Sasuke four ( Amaterasu, Kagutsuchi, Susano'o and Tsukuyomi) and Itachi three ( Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and Susano'o) ?

Kagatsuchi isn't an ability like that. It is a jutsu from Enton (Blaze release) which is the art of controlling the black flames of amaterasu. This is why people say that Sasuke's skill with Amaterasu is superior to Itachi's.

 

[Pube]

If you are referring to the Danzo fight, then Sasuke didn't do that he used a MS genjutsu. Another thing I keep saying is that whenever Tsukuyomi is used it is said so, but when Sasuke uses his MS genjutsu it isn't stated as Tsukuyomi why is that? The author has had numerous opportunities to state that Sasuke has it, but hasn't why, simply because he doesn't have it.

Secondly, each MS technique is named after a Shinto God, so what sense does it make to give Sasuke four ( Amaterasu, Kagutsuchi, Susano'o and Tsukuyomi) and Itachi three ( Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and Susano'o) ?

Veius, please explain the manga page in my first post.

 

[Snake5177]

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Look at his eye tense up when he uses Enton. His other ability is to control the flames.

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As Shi states it right here

Kagatsuchi isn't an ability like that. It is a jutsu from Enton (Blaze release) which is the art of controlling the black flames of amaterasu. This is why people say that Sasuke's skill with Amaterasu is superior to Itachi's.

Did you not read this..?

 

[|Apathy|]

Kagatsuchi isn't an ability like that. It is a jutsu from Enton (Blaze release) which is the art of controlling the black flames of amaterasu. This is why people say that Sasuke's skill with Amaterasu is superior to Itachi's.

And a power of the Mangekyo, think carefully on the very aspect of Kagutsuchi. It has already been chosen by the author as Sasuke's right eye technique, and it is one the prerequisite for awakening Susano'o. I don't think the author would waste both his time and the readers by showing this ability if it wasn't the technique of his Mangekyo.

 

[Pube]

Veius, snake...Im not trying to be "that guy" and I think youre both making good points.

But please explain around what Tobi said in the manga page I showed.

 

[|Apathy|]

The databook is outdated and flawed when we compare it to the ever-evolving manga. I suppose that is why there are many Hashirama vs. Hiruzen threads. It's those who followed the manga ( Which is subject to change the facts of the story at any point) vs. those who follow the databook ( A quick write up, of everything that has happened up to it's release). You tell me which one is the most logical to follow?

 

[xjimbox]

The databook is outdated and flawed when we compare it to the ever-evolving manga. I suppose that is why there are many Hashirama vs. Hiruzen threads. It's those who followed the manga ( Which is subject to change the facts of the story at any point) vs. those who follow the databook ( A quick write up, of everything that has happened up to it's release). You tell me which one is the most logical to follow?

*raises hand* Uhh is the answer manga?

 

[Snake5177]

Veius, snake...Im not trying to be "that guy" and I think youre both making good points.

But please explain around what Tobi said in the manga page I showed.

No, i have no explanation lol. This whole thread was based around a theory.. In all honesty, i'm not sure anymore. I was almost sure he didn't have it, but seeing all this proof, i'm getting a little convinced. But i will not back down from my theory.

 

[nightfury028]

Show me were it says it in the manga please....I mean it I would love to see it

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it says there . the little text
and this ...

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[kellzfresh]

Sasuke has itachi's eyes :sy:

 

[Snake5177]

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it says there . the little text
and this ...

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Dude, the first one it says "according to Shinto" not "this is a fact".
As for the second link, he doesn't say "you need both powers for susanoo".. He says that was just "another" power that awoke...

-EDIT: Plus the little text in the first link just means what the actual words mean... So thats irrelevant to the topic...

 

[xjimbox]

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it says there . the little text
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Well if u read it correctly he is stating the 3 special ms abilities and how the third is the last one he got its not saying u need the two to make the one.

 

[|Apathy|]

See at least you gave valid proof and not something from naruto wikia or the "databook".. Nice point but im still not convinced =3 Theres still loopholes.

I can't be sure what the author was thinking, so the most accurate claim that I can make is that it was an one shot fail-safe move. Itachi briefly implanted his techniques to Sasuke to activate when it saw Tobi's Sharingan with the hopes of killing him. After failing to do so, Itachi's techniques disappeared.

 

[|Apathy|]

I hope people understand that I am talking about Sasuke before gaining the EMS.

 

[xjimbox]

I can't be sure what the author was thinking, so the most accurate claim that I can make is that it was an one shot fail-safe move. Itachi briefly implanted his techniques to Sasuke to activate when it saw Tobi's Sharingan with the hopes of killing him. After failing to do so, Itachi's techniques disappeared.

that makes perfect sense bro

 

[irishboy9780]

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It doesn't directly say Tsukuyomi only sasukes genjutsu but i know of no other genjutsu that he has that requires the MS to use.

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

Yep I agree yet I disagree, I have come to realize that it maybe a flaw in the manga and have left it at that. Naruto has a controversial storyline with flaws and so does many other manga's.

 

[xjimbox]

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It doesn't directly say Tsukuyomi only sasukes genjutsu but i know of no other genjutsu that he has that requires the MS to use.

That's sharingan genjutsu..

 

[Snake5177]

I can't be sure what the author was thinking, so the most accurate claim that I can make is that it was an one shot fail-safe move. Itachi briefly implanted his techniques to Sasuke to activate when it saw Tobi's Sharingan with the hopes of killing him. After failing to do so, Itachi's techniques disappeared.

That sounds like it would be true o.o

I hope people understand that I am talking about Sasuke before gaining the EMS.

Even with EMS, if he had itachi's eyes, wouldn't he have used it on Itachi here:

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[xjimbox]

Yep I agree yet I disagree, I have come to realize that it maybe a flaw in the manga and have left it at that. Naruto has a controversial storyline with flaws and so does many other manga's.

Yes there are some holes in the story