Jiraiya one shotted two different Akatsuki members - stop underrating

[Black Adam]

Tell me how he'll get past Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Susano'o and them come back to me. A sick, blind Itachi could DESTROY him. Back then, Jiraiya was just being hyped up because of his status. Notice how Itachi and Kisame kept on saying "sannin, sannin". They were afraid of his hype, not him. When Itachi was running away from the toad mouth trap he could have turned around and one shotted him, but he never. So shhh. Itachi > Jiraiya.​

Yes and people were afraid of the Sharingan not the Uchiha, people were afraid of the name kyuubi not the actual entity, people were afraid of mokuton not Hashirama these people and things don't get their reputatons based solely on superstition and rumor unless a huge part of the "hype" was true Itachi was a beast but face the fact Jaraiya was a beast as well and probably could have taken Itachi sick or not....

 

[Helikido]

Jiraiya one shotted both Konan and Kisame. You know, the same Konan who was able to give Tobi trouble. And remember, Kisame was a Jinchuriki hunter. He also defeated three Paths of Pein without getting any injuries or coming close to running low on chakra.

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We were even told the guy could defeat Pein and Itachi. It was said that people like Kisame were not even capable of making a difference against him, while Konan was sent home after Pein cleaned the oil off of her restoring her.

And some think Itachi is a level above him. Funny

I'm not saying Jiraiya is better than Itachi or vice versa, just that they are on the same level.

Lol you noob. Itachi oneshotted a man who is far above the ranks of jiraya (orochimaru). Noob lol:ice:

 

[Helikido]

dude itachi knew fully about jirayas abilities and himself said he would not lose but both of them will die and itachi just kept getting weaker

jiraya lost to pein because he had feelings for him

Note: Itachi purposely said that because he wanted to rape sasukes mind only and leave.

 

[edgarmagician]

It is funny how Logic and Prince Charles keep defending Itachi. Itachi at best would stalemate. A little less than best and Itachi gets owned.

 

[Helikido]

It is funny how Logic and Prince Charles keep defending Itachi. Itachi at best would stalemate. A little less than best and Itachi gets owned.

Its funny how you think minato would even have a chance of fighting before getting mind raped.

 

[edgarmagician]

Its funny how you think minato would even have a chance of fighting before getting mind raped.

So you are in the group of ignorant kids who think Itachi would start with genjutsu or tha two top-tier shinobi's would get caught in genjutsu that easy.

 

[Helikido]

So you are in the group of ignorant kids who think Itachi would start with genjutsu or tha two top-tier shinobi's would get caught in genjutsu that easy.

EVERY SINGLE F U C K I N G battle he ever fought STARTED OUT WITH GENJUTUSU.....

NOTE: Orochimaru was a kage level ninja >>>>>> jiraya who instantly got mind raped and lost a fight.

 

[DimLord Urza]

EVERY SINGLE F U C K I N G battle he ever fought STARTED OUT WITH GENJUTUSU.....

NOTE: Orochimaru was a kage level ninja >>>>>> jiraya who instantly got mind raped and lost a fight.

:sy: This faculty of logic is painful.

So your implication is that since

C > A, that must mean C > B!

It doesn't work like that.

Example:

Kisame > Killer Bee

Might Guy > Kisame

Does that mean Might Guy > Killer Bee? Stupid logic.

 

[naruto14all]

In the beggining of naruto remember when kisame and itachi tried to take naruto and when jiraiya came itachi said and i quote" We better get out of here or we will BOTH get killed' which clearly states that itachi and kisame fear jiraiya's power so hes clearly stronger.

 

[Paintachi]

:sy: This faculty of logic is painful.

So your implication is that since

C > A, that must mean C > B!

It doesn't work like that.

Example:

Kisame > Killer Bee

Might Guy > Kisame

Does that mean Might Guy > Killer Bee? Stupid logic.

youre right that isn the abc matter but your logic also fails there.

 

[DimLord Urza]

youre right that isn the abc matter but your logic also fails there.

Maybe you should proofread your sentence before submitting. Sentences begin with capital letters. In addition, you misspelled the conjunction, "Isn't". You also missed an apostrophe in the word, "You're".

Also, it would probably be of great value to at least clarify what you're saying. How is my logic failing? What are you even talking about? It doesn't help to create a premise for an argument and then lack any supporting details.

 

[Conan Uchiha]

Jman is way underrated but I think Itatchi has the better edge.
Ok First of all both charackter have their twist and turns.
Jman can take on strong oponents but he lucks on analytical skills for example he took on pain but he coudn't determine his secret fast enough. That's why he is still at the shanins level eventhough his raw strenght exseed it. I mean Jman could take on Itachi but Itachi would prawn him on the long term. Oroshimaru wouldn't dare because his analytical skills exceed shanins level but his raw power does not. Itachi has many good skills and tech but his body and MS gives him a tight limit but he also has a suburb intellect

 

[SavageD]

....Please I need rep, I like both Itachi and Jman :3

 

[Helikido]

Maybe you should proofread your sentence before submitting. Sentences begin with capital letters. In addition, you misspelled the conjunction, "Isn't". You also missed an apostrophe in the word, "You're".

Also, it would probably be of great value to at least clarify what you're saying. How is my logic failing? What are you even talking about? It doesn't help to create a premise for an argument and then lack any supporting details.

Now now now. Calm down you little 12 year old. Just attack the grammar of other people when you have no logical answer to what he said right? This is why I took a 1 month break from the Base....stupidity shines over here. Now I'm going to say this one last time and if you still cannot understand then go screw yourself and your so called logic. You might need some common sense for what im about to say:

If orochimaru owned both Jiraya and Tsunade with useless hands, then how the hell would jiraya stand a chance against Itachi when Itachi took out his superior within mere second? Please tell me how. In fact Itachi will pummel him with the speed he has over jiraya.

Note: Itachi could have mind rapped jiraya instead of fodder sasuke since jiraya was so stupid that he just looked Itachi in the eye....

In the beggining of naruto remember when kisame and itachi tried to take naruto and when jiraiya came itachi said and i quote" We better get out of here or we will BOTH get killed' which clearly states that itachi and kisame fear jiraiya's power so hes clearly stronger.

I already said that he said what he said because he didn't want to fight. or if he wanted he could have crippled jirayas mind instead of sasukes.

 

[edgarmagician]

EVERY SINGLE F U C K I N G battle he ever fought STARTED OUT WITH GENJUTUSU.....

NOTE: Orochimaru was a kage level ninja >>>>>> jiraya who instantly got mind raped and lost a fight.

And you are incorrect. Not every Itachi fight started with Genjutsu. Get your facts straight before posting something that is incorrect.

When he faught Kurenai and Asuma, he didn't start with Genjutsu.

When he faught Kakashi, the first and the second time, he didn't started with genjutsu. In the first fight Kakashi got caught in Tsukyomy after their initial scramble, then Kakashi taught he could handle the genjutsu with his sharingan and that's why he got caught in it.

On the second fight, Itachi casted the genjutsu on Naruto, not kakashi, initially.

You fanboys solve everything with genjutsu, genjutsu.

If you notice in the manga when sharingan users face a high level shinobi, they don't start with genjutsu.

i.e. when Jiraya showed up in the hallway to protect Naruto, Itachi could have tried to put him in genjutsu, why didn't he put Jiraya in a genjutsu since he can spam it better than anyone? Because he would have put himself at risk since Jiraya is a high level shinobi.

Why didn't Tobi put Minato in a genjutsu? Mybe because he was contolling the fox, could be, but I think he didn't do it because it was riskier to try to cast a genjutsu on someone like Minato (High level shinobi).

We haven't heard that Madara put Hashirama in a genjutsu right? maybe because of the same reason.

In Madara's fight vs. the Kages, he only tried to use genjutsu once, If genjutsu was so bad a$$ he would have used it from the start on the five kages and game over.

I know you guys wish Itachi and all the Uchihas would spam genjutsu right off the bat and beat their oponents, it just don't work that way as for what we have seen in the manga.

By the way, Oro is nowhere near as strong as Jiraya. :flaw:
Jiraya vs Oro is just like Naruto vs. Sasuke. Jiraya never wanted to hurt Oro, did you see or have you heard of Jiraya going SM vs Oro, no right.

Grow up kid

 

[Helikido]

And you are incorrect. Not every Itachi fight started with Genjutsu. Get your facts straight before posting something that is incorrect.

When he faught Kurenai and Asuma, he didn't start with Genjutsu.

When he faught Kakashi, the first and the second time, he didn't started with genjutsu. In the first fight Kakashi got caught in Tsukyomy after their initial scramble, then Kakashi taught he could handle the genjutsu with his sharingan and that's why he got caught in it.

On the second fight, Itachi casted the genjutsu on Naruto, not kakashi, initially.

You fanboys solve everything with genjutsu, genjutsu.

If you notice in the manga when sharingan users face a high level shinobi, they don't start with genjutsu.

i.e. when Jiraya showed up in the hallway to protect Naruto, Itachi could have tried to put him in genjutsu, why didn't he put Jiraya in a genjutsu since he can spam it better than anyone? Because he would have put himself at risk since Jiraya is a high level shinobi.

Why didn't Tobi put Minato in a genjutsu? Mybe because he was contolling the fox, could be, but I think he didn't do it because it was riskier to try to cast a genjutsu on someone like Minato (High level shinobi).

We haven't heard that Madara put Hashirama in a genjutsu right? maybe because of the same reason.

In Madara's fight vs. the Kages, he only tried to use genjutsu once, If genjutsu was so bad a$$ he would have used it from the start on the five kages and game over.

I know you guys wish Itachi and all the Uchihas would spam genjutsu right off the bat and beat their oponents, it just don't work that way as for what we have seen in the manga.

By the way, Oro is nowhere near as strong as Jiraya. :flaw:
Jiraya vs Oro is just like Naruto vs. Sasuke. Jiraya never wanted to hurt Oro, did you see or have you heard of Jiraya going SM vs Oro, no right.

Grow up kid

Listen child. If you really think that giraya is stronger than oro. Then please quit the base.


Now I'm going to process to unsubscribe from this thread since the amount of ignorance has caused me to really sigh myself to near death. Good luck to you illogical people. I would love to see what jiraya can do against Itachi especially when Itachi could have mind rapped his ass.

and your logic about madara vs kages is pure utter bullshit! How come he didn't use susanoo from the start? Ohh OK....****ing retard.

 

[DimLord Urza]

Now now now. Calm down you little 12 year old. Just attack the grammar of other people when you have no logical answer to what he said right? This is why I took a 1 month break from the Base....stupidity shines over here. Now I'm going to say this one last time and if you still cannot understand then go screw yourself and your so called logic. You might need some common sense for what im about to say:

If orochimaru owned both Jiraya and Tsunade with useless hands, then how the hell would jiraya stand a chance against Itachi when Itachi took out his superior within mere second? Please tell me how. In fact Itachi will pummel him with the speed he has over jiraya.

Note: Itachi could have mind rapped jiraya instead of fodder sasuke since jiraya was so stupid that he just looked Itachi in the eye....

I already said that he said what he said because he didn't want to fight. or if he wanted he could have crippled jirayas mind instead of sasukes.

It is in fact highly immature and contradictory to call someone a "kid" when you seem to retain immeasurable childish behavior. Your petty little insults carry no degree of rational inquiry and your stance as a fanboy carries through immensely here. Let me regard a few of the things you've said.
-Correcting his grammar was unnecessary, but it displayed the quality of his disposition as well as formally addressing how incoherent he was.
-Calling me a twelve year old displays how stupid and childish you are in fact, for making a base assumption over your less than stellar argument. If you're trying to be cool, at least perpetuate with a better form.
-"If you still cannot understand then go screw yourself and your so called logic." The blissful ignorance in believing that insulting will actually get you somewhere in an argument.

You completely disregard a few things. For one, Itachi admitted that attacking Jiraiya would put him at a stalemate at best. Whether he was being true or not is completely unknown, but it is something worth taking into consideration. Just because Orochimaru was greater than Jiraiya, doesn't mean that Itachi could defeat him because he could defeat Orochimaru. Is it so absurd to consider that each held respective weaknesses? Again, read my A B C logical argument.
If you continue insulting me, it shows you have an indefinite level of immaturity. Try to refrain from acting like a child.

 

[edgarmagician]

Listen child. If you really think that giraya is stronger than oro. Then please quit the base.


Now I'm going to process to unsubscribe from this thread since the amount of ignorance has caused me to really sigh myself to near death. Good luck to you illogical people. I would love to see what jiraya can do against Itachi especially when Itachi could have mind rapped his ass.

and your logic about madara vs kages is pure utter bullshit! How come he didn't use susanoo from the start? Ohh OK....****ing retard.

Jajaja. You make me laugh. Jiraya is way stronger than oro you noob. When oro didn't have his hands, Jiraya was fighting poisoned with less than 50% of his chakra and chakra molding control. Oro still had his physical strength. Tsunade didn't fight until the end when she was almost out of chakra and had already released her seal.

As for Itachi's mind messing up Jiraya, that's what all Itachi fanboys want to believe. Again, that doesn't work against high level shinobi.

As for the Kage fight, Madara had his susano up from the start. Remember, he brought it out when Naruto hit him with the odama rasengan. After that it was on and off but he had it up most of the time. Go back and read the manga again, you need a refresher.

 

[edgarmagician]

It is in fact highly immature and contradictory to call someone a "kid" when you seem to retain immeasurable childish behavior. Your petty little insults carry no degree of rational inquiry and your stance as a fanboy carries through immensely here. Let me regard a few of the things you've said.
-Correcting his grammar was unnecessary, but it displayed the quality of his disposition as well as formally addressing how incoherent he was.
-Calling me a twelve year old displays how stupid and childish you are in fact, for making a base assumption over your less than stellar argument. If you're trying to be cool, at least perpetuate with a better form.
-"If you still cannot understand then go screw yourself and your so called logic." The blissful ignorance in believing that insulting will actually get you somewhere in an argument.

You completely disregard a few things. For one, Itachi admitted that attacking Jiraiya would put him at a stalemate at best. Whether he was being true or not is completely unknown, but it is something worth taking into consideration. Just because Orochimaru was greater than Jiraiya, doesn't mean that Itachi could defeat him because he could defeat Orochimaru. Is it so absurd to consider that each held respective weaknesses? Again, read my A B C logical argument.
If you continue insulting me, it shows you have an indefinite level of immaturity. Try to refrain from acting like a child.

Well said. + Rep

 

[soulless uchiha]

Tell me how Jiraiya gets past yata mirror, and susano'o.