What do YOU think Prime Hiruzen's limits are?

[TouchMyMangos]

Hiruzen has more feats?

Seriously?

No... Seriously?

WoW your so smart SO6P can beat Madara i did not know... i thought Madara>SO6P...

Lmaooo Madara's words>Yours dude, and at the end of the day, no one has fought Hashirama more than Madara, so i think his credibility is extremely valid...




You are irrelevant.

When have you ever seen Hashirama fight, excluding the time an Old Hiruzen finished him? Don't worry, i'll wait.

Lol. You are the one who takes Madara's words so literally. "Only Hashirama can stop me" - despite the fact he was only referring to Perfect Susanoo, you seem to believe that that means Shodaime > Edo Madara. But if you take the statement so literally as you have done, that would mean Madara doesn't think the So6P could stop him, considering he thinks there's only one man who could stop him (and according to him, it's not the So6P)

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You totally missed the point. What does Madara know about the recent world. How does he know that the likes of Naruto couldn't stop him? He doesn't.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

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Oh the picture i posted...all Uchiha fanboys wished for it to never exist. That one scene...

Too bad

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Drink Napalm.

 

[Phoenix Wright]

When have you ever seen Hashirama fight, excluding the time an Old Hiruzen finished him? Don't worry, i'll wait.

Lol. You are the one who takes Madara's words so literally. "Only Hashirama can stop me" - despite the fact he was only referring to Perfect Susanoo, you seem to believe that that means Shodaime > Edo Madara. But if you take the statement so literally as you have done, that would mean Madara doesn't think the So6P could stop him

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You totally missed the point. What does Madara know about the recent world. How does he know that the likes of Naruto couldn't stop him? He doesn't.

Exactly. Madara has no clue about Hiruzen's existence.

 

[Midday]

I put him on Hashirama's level, but I don't think that's a level I would have them both as high kage. Hiruzen's hyped to be stronger than Hashirama who is mainly all hype.

Hiruzen already beat Hashirama, Tobirama and Orochimaru at the same time. I'm going to justuify myself before I get a bunch of fanboys coming at me. Orochimaru's edo's were perfected, Orochimaru is well informed about mokuton, the power levels were a lot weaker in part 1.

 

[Phoenix Wright]

I put him on Hashirama's level, but I don't think that's a level I would have them both as high kage. He's hyped to be stronger than Hashirama who is mainly all hype.

Hiruzen already beat Hashirama, Tobirama and Orochimaru at the same time. I'm going to justuify myself before I get a bunch of fanboys coming at me. Orochimaru's edo's were perfected, Orochimaru is well informed about mokuton, the power levels were a lot weaker in part 1.

Yep. If the battle was supposed to happen in Part 2, or the battle will ever get remastered in any Naruto Game or a Special Flashback, then i bet Hashirama could use his Thousand Flowers and Mokuton, but at the end Hiruzen would always be stronger and it would end same way it did previously.

Also, are Hashirama's Followers saying Orochimaru is weak, and his Edos sucked just because Hiruzen beat Hashirama and Tobirama at once? LOL.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

When have you ever seen Hashirama fight, excluding the time an Old Hiruzen finished him? Don't worry, i'll wait.

Lol. You are the one who takes Madara's words so literally. "Only Hashirama can stop me" - despite the fact he was only referring to Perfect Susanoo, you seem to believe that that means Shodaime > Edo Madara. But if you take the statement so literally as you have done, that would mean Madara doesn't think the So6P could stop him, considering he thinks there's only one man who could stop him (and according to him, it's not the So6P)

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You totally missed the point. What does Madara know about the recent world. How does he know that the likes of Naruto couldn't stop him? He doesn't.

That wasn't Hashirama fighting that was just a Dead body embeded with his Soul which was being controlled by Orochimaru; but ok...

What person with common sense wouldn't take Madara's words literally?

Who else has fought with Hashirama countless times?

Who else is treating the Five Great Kages like Fodder?

Stop speaking about Madara not thinking SO6P can defeat him.. That is so irrelevant, even the Ramen Guy knows SO6P can beat anyone...Just stop dude...Find a better example, this is such fail...

 

[Gooner4life]

Hiruzen has more feats?

Seriously?

No... Seriously?

WoW your so smart SO6P can beat Madara i did not know... i thought Madara>SO6P...

Lmaooo Madara's words>Yours dude, and at the end of the day, no one has fought Hashirama more than Madara, so i think his credibility is extremely valid...




You are irrelevant.




Lmaooo... You make zero sense, Madara is unreliable because he has seen Hashirama's strength? and Said strength has defeated him?
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Question to you Hiruzen>Hashirama people... Is it Hiruzen's DNA that is coveted or is it Hashirama's?(Oh and please don't say his DNA is coveted because of Wood Release...I'll just jump off a cliff)

He cannot compare the two though as he hasn't seen Hiruzen. Madara is unreliable because he has every reason to boast about Hashi's strength because he is so proud of his own.

Hashi's bloodline is powerful and as the strongest example from his clan, his will be coveted yes. Hiruzen doesn't have a special clan trait but how does that make him powerful. Just because sharingan are coveted eg. does that make them instantly stronger than someone else just because their eyes are liked. It is all about skill and I am not doubting Hashi is skilful, I just think Hiruzen is more skilful

 

[Myogen]

I think he's probably Top Tier (See my sig to know which shinobi that pairs him with), but I guess he has the potential to be higher though.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

He cannot compare the two though as he hasn't seen Hiruzen. Madara is unreliable because he has every reason to boast about Hashi's strength because he is so proud of his own.

Hashi's bloodline is powerful and as the strongest example from his clan, his will be coveted yes. Hiruzen doesn't have a special clan trait but how does that make him powerful. Just because sharingan are coveted eg. does that make them instantly stronger than someone else just because their eyes are liked. It is all about skill and I am not doubting Hashi is skilful, I just think Hiruzen is more skilful

Lmaoo... You make no sense i swear... So If Hashirama wasn't powerful and worthy of his praise how is it that you think he could have defeated Uchiha Madara?

Name one person who has confirmed Hiruzen's strength over all other Kages...???

Nothing your saying has any proof behind it...Yes, Hiruzen is powerful, but Hashirama is better.

 

[Phoenix Wright]

What person with common sense wouldn't take Madara's words literally?

Me. Madara knows nothing about the present world, or even about Hiruzen's Power therefore his words should be treated as empty words.

Who else has fought with Hashirama countless times?

Hiruzen. He was trained by both Tobirama and Hashirama, it's certain he fought them both as a training process. Student>Master

Who else is treating the Five Great Kages like Fodder?

Prime Hiruzen's hype threated the Shinobi World as Fodder. He didn't even need to lay a finger for people being scared of him.

Name one person who has confirmed Hiruzen's strength over all other Kages...???

Iruka.

 

[Midday]

That wasn't Hashirama fighting that was just a Dead body embeded with his Soul which was being controlled by Orochimaru; but ok...

1.What person with common sense wouldn't take Madara's words literally?

Who else has fought with Hashirama countless times?

2.Who else is treating the Five Great Kages like Fodder?

Stop speaking about Madara not thinking SO6P can defeat him.. That is so irrelevant, even the Ramen Guy knows SO6P can beat anyone...Just stop dude...Find a better example, this is such fail...

1. I wouldn't take Madara's words as fact as he doesn't know anything past his generation, so him saying only Hashirama can stop him isn't accurate.

2. This is probably the weakest generation of kages so far, there's a handful of people besides Madara who would beat them. They're not as impressive as their title.

He's using the logic you're using "what Madara said is fact". Madara said only Hashirama can stop him, he hasn't included the so6p so Madara > so6p by that logic.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Me. Madara knows nothing about the present world, or even about Hiruzen's Power therefore his words should be treated as empty words.



Hiruzen. He was trained by both Tobirama and Hashirama, it's certain he fought them both as a training process. Student>Master



Prime Hiruzen's hype threated the Shinobi World as Fodder. He didn't even need to lay a finger for people being scared of him.


Iruka.

Drink Napalm; You are irrelevant.

1. I wouldn't take Madara's words as fact as he doesn't know anything past his generation, so him saying only Hashirama can stop him isn't accurate.

2. This is probably the weakest generation of kages so far, there's a handful of people besides Madara who would beat them. They're not as impressive as their title.

He's using the logic you're using "what Madara said is fact". Madara said only Hashirama can stop him, he hasn't included the so6p so Madara > so6p by that logic.

Beat them all together? Seriously? Name these people i would love to know...

Dude Lmaoo... Do you know who SO6P is? There is no logic where SO6P cannot beat someone in NarutoVerse.

My so-called"logic" is Manga facts... soo uhmmm... yeaa

I'm not stating that Hashirama is the only person that can beat Uchiha Madara but for Uchiha Madara to say that it means that he himself is testament to Hashirama's strength... Can you use reasoning? Because OP obviously lacks it...by saying "So Madara cannot be beaten by SO6P"

 

[Phoenix Wright]

1. I wouldn't take Madara's words as fact as he doesn't know anything past his generation, so him saying only Hashirama can stop him isn't accurate.

2. This is probably the weakest generation of kages so far, there's a handful of people besides Madara who would beat them. They're not as impressive as their title.

He's using the logic you're using "what Madara said is fact". Madara said only Hashirama can stop him, he hasn't included the so6p so Madara > so6p by that logic.

Leave it to me. I already made both the Hashirama fanboys and Uchiha fanboys close against my arguments

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

hashi is always greater than hiruzen
as said by kabuto and madara himself
/thread

 

[Phoenix Wright]

hashi is always greater than hiruzen
as said by kabuto and madara himself
/thread

Kabuto nor Madara never stated anything like that. Go on.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

What person with common sense wouldn't take Madara's words literally?

"Only Hashirama can stop me"

Can't be literally true because So6P > Madara.

Lmaooo Madara's words>Yours dude,

Oh sorry, Madara > So6P?

 

[Midday]

Leave it to me. I already made both the Hashirama fanboys and Uchiha fanboys close against my arguments

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It saves me the effort.

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

Kabuto nor Madara never stated anything like that. Go on.

manga and anime > than your statements and logic
go on

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Can't be literally true because So6P > Madara.



Oh sorry, Madara > So6P?

Will you please use your brain before posting? I mean god damn...

Is it not obvious that SO6P>NarutoVerse...

Is it not Obvious that Madars words are simply a testament to Hashirama's strength..?

You fail is so Hard... I don't even... My mind is starting to be filled with Fuqs just by being part of this thread...

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Will you please use your brain before posting? I mean god damn...

Is it not obvious that SO6P>NarutoVerse...

Is it not Obvious that Madars words are simply a testament to Hashirama's strength..?

You fail is so Hard... I don't even... My mind is starting to be filled with Fuqs just by being part of this thread...

Maybe you should follow your own outstanding advice:

Lmaooo Madara's words>Yours dude,