What do YOU think Prime Hiruzen's limits are?

Where would YOU place 'Prime Hiruzen'?

  • Rikudo Sennin Level

    Votes: 8 2.9%
  • Edo Madara level

    Votes: 33 11.9%
  • Hashirama level

    Votes: 90 32.5%
  • High Kage level

    Votes: 111 40.1%
  • Mid Kage level

    Votes: 13 4.7%
  • Low Kage level

    Votes: 14 5.1%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 8 2.9%

  • Total voters
    277

gordo1

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Right below hashi/madara tier, tops the tier with 3rd raikage and muu
 

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You ******... first of all. Those images state "it was SAID" and lemme tell you why. Hashirama CLEARLY was on another level, SOT6P's level, as stated by Kabuto. Thing is, all his opponents couldn't stand up to him so he killed them and people thought it was his full power. So basically, people didn't see his true colours. That's why they think Hiruzen > Hashi. When he fought Madara he went all out, but no one saw it.

hashi>hiruzen
i don't care what the manga says

typical ignorants, it's their manga after all. Cool story bros tell me more, especially that time when Hiruzen was 69 and owned Hashirama and Tobirama which were perfected
 

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Oh sorry i didn't put the full image on. On here, Hiruzen told Iruka to not to use Past Tense. Meaning he's over all 5 Nation / Konoha Kages even in his old age.

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Lmaoo... Your proof is Hype? Stop loitering this thread, with Hiruzen>Hashirama garbage...
 

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Dafuq is low/mid/high kage level?

Kage is a rank and not a level.
Hiruzen had a kage rank and was the strongest person in the village.
Nothing more and nothing less.
 

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Lmaoo... Your proof is Hype? Stop loitering this thread, with Hiruzen>Hashirama garbage...

Hashirama is more hype than Hiruzen though.

Dafuq is low/mid/high kage level?

Kage is a rank and not a level.
Hiruzen had a kage rank and was the strongest person in the village.
Nothing more and nothing less.

Hashirama was a Kage. Mei is a Kage. Are they the same level then, in your opinion?
 

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typical ignorants, it's their manga after all. Cool story bros tell me more, especially that time when Hiruzen was 69 and owned Hashirama and Tobirama which were perfected

Dude if you seriously think that edo hashirama and tobirama was on full power, and being controlled perfectly. Then you got shit for brains man..
 

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Hashirama is more hype than Hiruzen though.

You could say that, but there is equal amounts of facts as there is hype.

I mean how many times does Uchiha Madara have to confirm Hashirama's strength?
 

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Lmaoo... Your proof is Hype? Stop loitering this thread, with Hiruzen>Hashirama garbage...

That's not my only proof. I also have my ace card.

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Old Hiruzen>Itachi.

That's reasonable, and your mere excuses can't deny that! You can clearly see that it's Itachi bowing before his Lord, instead of reverse!

And since Old Hiruzen>Itachi then Prime Hiruzen>2 Hashiramas.
 

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A kage isn't necessarily the strongest shinobi in the village btw.. Take Tsunade and Naruto..
 

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You could say that, but there is equal amounts of facts as there is hype.

I mean how many times does Uchiha Madara have to confirm Hashirama's strength?

Hype is hype and Hiruzen has more feats. Anyway, Madara hasn't mentioned Rikudo Sennin either, so I don't see how him saying only Hashirama can stop him devalues other characters. That would mean not even the Sage could stop him, considering Madara said only Shodaime could stop him. That's why you shouldn't take what Madara said literally (Hashirama can't beat Edo Madara). Futhermore, Madara never fought against Prime Hiruzen, he's not in a position to accurately judge the strength of every ninja who's ever lived.
 

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A kage isn't necessarily the strongest shinobi in the village btw.. Take Tsunade and Naruto..

Tsunade's punch is still stronger than Naruto's:cool:
If you wanted to counter me, you should have said Gaara and Baki. Baki has a hidden Rinnegan afterall.
 

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That's not my only proof. I also have my ace card.

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Old Hiruzen>Itachi.

That's reasonable, and your mere excuses can't deny that! You can clearly see that it's Itachi bowing before his Lord, instead of reverse!

And since Old Hiruzen>Itachi then Prime Hiruzen>2 Hashiramas.

You my good sir.. should just gtfo, until you get some sense into that shitfilled head of yours..
 

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edo madara level i mean he took on the 1st 2nd and oro even if they were zombies you have to be strong as hell to do even that
 

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Oh sorry i didn't put the full image on. On here, Hiruzen told Iruka to not to use Past Tense. Meaning he's over all 5 Nation / Konoha Kages even in his old age.

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Yup it was stated in the past probably before minato became hokage meaning we cant say he is stronger than minato.
 

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You could say that, but there is equal amounts of facts as there is hype.

I mean how many times does Uchiha Madara have to confirm Hashirama's strength?

Madara is unreliable. Think about it, if you were beaten and you thought you were amazing, you would try to justify your loss by making the enemy seem beyond god level, I mean Hashi beating Edo Madara, really? Madara would have had no interest in Hiruzen and definitely wouldn't have been alive long enough to see his prime
 

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Hype is hype and Hiruzen has more feats. Anyway, Madara hasn't mentioned Rikudo Sennin either, so I don't see how him saying only Hashirama can stop him devalues other characters. That would mean not even the Sage could stop him, considering Madara said only Shodaime could stop him. That's why you shouldn't take what Madara said literally (Hashirama can't beat Edo Madara). Futhermore, Madara never fought against Prime Hiruzen, he's not in a position to accurately judge the strength of every ninja who's ever lived.

Hiruzen has more feats?

Seriously?

No... Seriously?

WoW your so smart SO6P can beat Madara i did not know... i thought Madara>SO6P...

Lmaooo Madara's words>Yours dude, and at the end of the day, no one has fought Hashirama more than Madara, so i think his credibility is extremely valid...


That's not my only proof. I also have my ace card.

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Old Hiruzen>Itachi.

That's reasonable, and your mere excuses can't deny that! You can clearly see that it's Itachi bowing before his Lord, instead of reverse!

And since Old Hiruzen>Itachi then Prime Hiruzen>2 Hashiramas.

You are irrelevant.


Madara is unreliable. Think about it, if you were beaten and you thought you were amazing, you would try to justify your loss by making the enemy seem beyond god level, I mean Hashi beating Edo Madara, really? Madara would have had no interest in Hiruzen and definitely wouldn't have been alive long enough to see his prime

Lmaooo... You make zero sense, Madara is unreliable because he has seen Hashirama's strength? and Said strength has defeated him?
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Question to you Hiruzen>Hashirama people... Is it Hiruzen's DNA that is coveted or is it Hashirama's?(Oh and please don't say his DNA is coveted because of Wood Release...I'll just jump off a cliff)
 
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Hiruzen has more feats?

Seriously?

No... Seriously?

WoW your so smart SO6P can beat Madara i did not know... i thought Madara>SO6P...

Lmaooo Madara's words>Yours dude, and at the end of the day, no one has fought Hashirama more than Madara, so i think his credibility is extremely valid...




You are irrelevant.

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Oh the picture i posted...all Uchiha fanboys wished for it to never exist. That one scene...

Too bad
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