[Discussion] Sasuke's Last Victory?

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He wouldn't have survived with out Manda.
That's not really help, though. Manda was a summon of Sasuke's, so he was technically another weapon that Sasuke ended up sacrificing. He was used as a passing thought to increase the odds of Sasuke surviving the explosion.

Help is something that comes from someone; Sasuke used Manda and wasn't the thing pissed off? It wasn't help; it was Sasuke being sacrificial.

//my two cents, anyway. some might have seen it as help, regardless of the circumstances.
 

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Exactly smartass, he got help from his summon. When Killer Bee needs more chakra, does he ask Hachibi for it? Yes he does, it's called help. Sharing is caring if you didn't know too.
Thats not help, thats using your jutsu. He basically used Manda as a tool. If Manda had allowed Sasuke to do it, it would have been help, but since Sasuke turned him into a puppet, it wasnt help
 

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lol sasuke had no help whatsoever against deidara summoning jutsu is help now? yu still need your own chakara to summon them and against danzo he had no help either against cee the raikages jonnin bodyguard he also had no help he one shotted him actually im assuming you made this thread to hate on sasuke but he hasnt needed help since gainnig sussano kabuto doesnt count because they weren't trying to kill him zetsu is still an akatsuki memeber yet he got one shotted as well all this = sasukes a badass
 

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lol sasuke had no help whatsoever against deidara summoning jutsu is help now? yu still need your own chakara to summon them and against danzo he had no help either against cee the raikages jonnin bodyguard he also had no help he one shotted him actually im assuming you made this thread to hate on sasuke but he hasnt needed help since gainnig sussano kabuto doesnt count because they weren't trying to kill him zetsu is still an akatsuki memeber yet he got one shotted as well all this = sasukes a badass
I agree Uchiha
 

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lol sasuke had no help whatsoever against deidara summoning jutsu is help now? yu still need your own chakara to summon them and against danzo he had no help either against cee the raikages jonnin bodyguard he also had no help he one shotted him actually im assuming you made this thread to hate on sasuke but he hasnt needed help since gainnig sussano kabuto doesnt count because they weren't trying to kill him zetsu is still an akatsuki memeber yet he got one shotted as well all this = sasukes a badass
Lol i assume your trying to forget all of the times where yes indeed he needed help for example in his fight against Bee he needed help from Jugo and Karin to prevent him from dying. Without those two team members he would be dead and there would be one remaining Uchiha. But that's acceptable that you forgot one fight I'll give you that but did you also forget the fight against the Raikage when he was about to kick Sasuke's face in and lose his own leg but Gaara stepped in and stopped it. Then after Gaara arrives he sticks his tail between his legs and runs for his life away from that battle. Then after he leaves that battle he encounters yet another Kage and nearly dies again to the Mizukage who is about to melt him down. But then out of nowhere Zetsu appears and takes her chakra and gives it to him so he is able to scurry away. But wait theres more, after that he runs into Onoki who is about to turn him into dust with a particle jutsu when yet again, big surprise, Tobi steps in and teleports him to an alternate dimension in the nick of time. Now lets go to some of his other major accomplishments such as the killing of Oro oh wait he did that while he was in his death bed, your right badasses kill people while they're already dying. Then there is the killing of his famous brother Itachi oh wait after the fight we figure out it was all planned for Sasuke to win the fight because his brother wanted to make him stronger. Then your right he does finally get a win against a one armed Deidara but using Oro's best summon as a bomb shelter. Believe me i have nothing against Sasuke and he is one of the most powerful Uchiha of all time but he did not get to where he is without TONS of help so please recognize when someone is helped to achieve fame.
 

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Sasuke didnt get help during the fight against Danzo. Tobi did not move at all!
Karin thought she was helping but Sasuke seemed to already have some idea of the technique and then used the that knowledge to trick Danzo into confirming it." Props to Karin for Trying but as you can see Karin said she figured out he tech but before she could tell Sasuke, she was interrupted:
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I think Kishi decided to show parts of the fight from Karin's perspective just to inform the readers. Also kishi never shows the readers exactly what sasuke is thinking during battle, barely even during speech. So i think kishi was trying to maintain this pattern.
People say that Gaara saved sasuke during the fighting against the Raikage but It is argue that he saved Raikage, it can also be argued he saved both of them because how exactly could Raikage have been saved from Sasuke's attack:
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Raikage was tossing his entire body into a piercing Amaterasu/Enton attack. Raikages Slice and heal combo would not work with an entire body. Speaking of which Raikage needed help to even achieve this task.
Someone also claimed that sasuke ran after seeing Gaara? This is truly incorrect. After Sasuke saw that with depleted chakra and being surrounded by a group of ninjas that with their combined talents could kill him he decided to return to his original objective.
Group of Ninjas:
Temari
Gaara
Darui
Kankuro

Sasuke has acheived alot on his own why not give him the credit?
 

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Sasuke didnt get help during the fight against Danzo. Tobi did not move at all!
Karin thought she was helping but Sasuke seemed to already have some idea of the technique and then used the that knowledge to trick Danzo into confirming it." Props to Karin for Trying but as you can see Karin said she figured out he tech but before she could tell Sasuke, she was interrupted:
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I think Kishi decided to show parts of the fight from Karin's perspective just to inform the readers. Also kishi never shows the readers exactly what sasuke is thinking during battle, barely even during speech. So i think kishi was trying to maintain this pattern.
People say that Gaara saved sasuke during the fighting against the Raikage but It is argue that he saved Raikage, it can also be argued he saved both of them because how exactly could Raikage have been saved from Sasuke's attack:
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Raikage was tossing his entire body into a piercing Amaterasu/Enton attack. Raikages Slice and heal combo would not work with an entire body. Speaking of which Raikage needed help to even achieve this task.
Someone also claimed that sasuke ran after seeing Gaara? This is truly incorrect. After Sasuke saw that with depleted chakra and being surrounded by a group of ninjas that with their combined talents could kill him he decided to return to his original objective.
Group of Ninjas:
Temari
Gaara
Darui
Kankuro

Sasuke has acheived alot on his own why not give him the credit?
Lol i dont give him much credit cause he hasn't deserved any
 

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Sasuke vs Danzo, Sasuke vs Oro (weakened or not). Sasuke vs Naruto, Sasuke vs Deidara, Sasuke vs alot of Samurai's/test subjects. Took on Raikage without the Susano's last form.

Also keep in mind no Kage besides Tsuchikage can take on final MS Sasuke. The one we saw before he went blind.

Tobi was not giving Sasuke tips if thats what some of you are saying about that Danzo vs Sasuke battle. He was talking to himself..
 

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Sasuke pretty much hasn't won any fight on his own in the second series, other then when he absorbed a sick Orochimaru who was hours away from dying.

Simply because he wouldn't have won any fight if Itachi didn't give him the MS.
 

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Sasuke pretty much hasn't won any fight on his own in the second series, other then when he absorbed a sick Orochimaru who was hours away from dying.

Simply because he wouldn't have won any fight if Itachi didn't give him the MS.
Sasuke Curse mark was more powerful then MS Sasuke up until Kage summit.. So your point is invalid. Im talking about Danzo vs Sasuke (Kage Summit)
 

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I wouldn't say he had no help since Tobi was there telling him tips on how to beta him and taking Fuu and Torune or however you spell it to another dimension.
He said Sasuke vs Danzo, not Sasuke vs Danzo, Fuu and Torune.

And, it does not matter if Sasuke was given tips on how to beat Danzo, because Danzo had intel on Sasuke's abilities aswell.
 

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In Deidara vs Sasuke, people forget that Tobi planted the land mines for Deidara. So Deidara got way more help than Sasuke did. Also Manda is a summon, that means Sasuke helped himself.

Sasuke got a little help from Karin against Danzo, but not enough to consider it a difference-maker.

Anyways, arguing about this is dumb, every character gets help, and Sasuke is one of the strongest there's ever been right now.
 

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sasuke vs naruto sasuke vs oro sasuke vs naruto sakura sai and yamato sasuke vs raikage sasuke vs samurai and sasuke vs danzo sasuke vs deidara. also manda was his own summon like when naruto or jiraiya summon frogs so sasuke still won with no help cause that was his own jutsu
 
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