EMS n Perfect Susano

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Why? It makes perfect sense... xd
There's only been 2 updates in which you can truly base this pattern around.
I don't think that's enough. I think that it depends on the skill of the user. Yes, EMS does help with the chakra drain but it's not the only variable, in my opinion. I mean, Itachi's MS Sasano'o is as good, if not better, than Sasuke's EMS Sasano'o.
 

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No it is a ems technique madara said he used it in his battle with the hokage.
 

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It's a EMS tech
Madara said he didn't awaken Rinnegan till he was on his death bed and Tsunade said how could her grandfather fight such a thing.Therefore

EMS=Perfect Sasunno
 

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Ya i dont think its a rinnegan move because he could pull out susanoo with ms what if he had massive chakra like madara maybe hecould use perfect susanoo even before ems..even if its only for a sec before he goes blind lol. With susanoo i think its just a matter of how much chakra the user has.. or maybe he needs rinnegan to stabilize it and can only make massive chakra monsters like edo madara clones lol who knows..
 
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It requires rennigan imo for its complete form.
I will not be happy if Sasuke just randomly got it cause he had EMS... zzz
 

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It wouldnt really be random but i agree itd be lame.
 
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EMS move. Also Bijuu mode combined with sage mode would own.
 

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Itachi used Perfect Susanoo already
Meaning all you need is MS
 
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