Tobi's base speed is even with Minato's?

[OnPoint]

They were not running towards eachother at maximum capacity, that is a false premise from which you have built upon.

 

[htmwall]

the three are false in the first he used his intangibility to get sasuke out of jinton
as for naruto he was able to see through his attack with his sharingan the last it clearly was to bait him to stop his intangibility a smart move by minato.
capito

 

[Prime Rib]

not even close even tobi was surprised on how fast he was

 

[KingHashirama]

Well we have not seen tobi do any fast thing. ^.^

 

[Flash]

not really running at someone doesn't mean u matched their speed. :|

I guess Base Naruto was as fast as Sasuke back when they clashed Rasengans and Chidori's.

Consider this. Minato had a plan before he even approached Tobi. Minato wasn't looking to outrun Tobi in that panel. He needed Tobi to be on the offensive. Think about that.

Yup this

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

but tobi never touched him when they were running at each other.

Yes he did, read that chapter again. As soon as Tobi touched Minato's cloak or whatever he FTG'd him.

 

[TrollingSage]

True. But there's also Tobi intercepting KM Naruto in the most recent chapter.

But yeah, I've admitted that I'm possibly wrong.

Well for starters there's no indication Naruto was at full speed. We've seen Naruto's full speed and this didnt look like it.
Secondly Tobi has the sharingan, he can predict movements.
And lastly Naruto charged in straight on like a moron. Anytime we've seen a sharingan user blitzed, the person doing the blitzing, moves in an unpredictable motion, to escape the sharingan's line of sight. Naruto just charged in head on in a very straight line. Its more surprising that with all the "battle experience" he's gained, Naruto actually thought that was going to work.

 

[Bogard]

Consider this. Minato had a plan before he even approached Tobi. Minato wasn't looking to outrun Tobi in that panel. He needed Tobi to be on the offensive. Think about that.

This. First time probably that i agree with you

 

[Negative Knight]

Yeah this is a great find man but several factors come into play

Honestly just plain logic dictates the A should be faster than Minato due to his lightning release armour and the synapses transferring stimuli quicker between receptors and etc.

 

[Minator93]

I guess Tobi shares the second spot with A. Minato is faster but slightly.

 

[asad70ful]

my answer is no
but anyway+rep for effort

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

Agreed rep +1,it did happen in seconds because if you watched the anime it went in slow mo when they fought.

 

[phantomlord22]

good thread
good points

 

[UchihaNafets]

Minato is faster.

 

[SasukeTheViper EMS]

I agree completely with the OP ...+Rep !

 

[Trendy]

yeah you cant underestmate tobi
+rep never thought of that

 

[Scryed]

Minato and Tobi ran at each other. Minato on the other hand, had to make Tobi go on the offensive to make sure he was tangible, or atleast took that gamble. If he would've attacked Tobi head on, Tobi might've still been intangible so his effort would've failed.

Instead, he threw his kunai at Tobi which Tobi managed to phase through, then as Tobi was going to grab him, he FTGed to the Kunai that had just passed through Tobi and hit him with a Rasengan from behind or above as it seemed. Out of Tobi's line of sight. It was unexpected. Minato planned out that gamble as a counter attack that worked.

Tobi's reflexes though are extremely good though. Perhaps a tad below Minato's or up there with his. FTG just happened to be instantanious teleportation that is one of Tobi's S/T weaknesses.

As for him warping Sasuke at the Kage summit, it could've been plot. Though it's also possible that this time it was shown at its actual speed. Other times, it shows the entire absorbing process. It could be like those times when the manga allows us to see what's happening when in reality, they're going at extreme speeds that others at that spot wouldn't be able to see. His S/T is slower than FTG but could still be fast enough to not be noticed by other people. Just like some don't really get the chance to react when being warped. Minato's FTG was instant. Faster than Tobi's S/T. But he still had the reflexes to actually FTG to avoid being warped. Some people might be able to notice his S/T and react.

Other people like Kankuro at the summit noticed it was Tobi's S/T when he warped Karin to heal Sasuke. This proves that it's not instant but it is still fast. It could be seen by others but the process would be a few seconds. It still requires one to have good reflexes to avoid being warped.

Though I do believe that the battle took seconds or a few minutes but was shown in a motion for us to be able to see as the readers.

 

[SilverSlick]

Minato and Tobi ran at each other. Minato on the other hand, had to make Tobi go on the offensive to make sure he was tangible, or atleast took that gamble. If he would've attacked Tobi head on, Tobi might've still been intangible so his effort would've failed.

Instead, he threw his kunai at Tobi which Tobi managed to phase through, then as Tobi was going to grab him, he FTGed to the Kunai that had just passed through Tobi and hit him with a Rasengan from behind or above as it seemed. Out of Tobi's line of sight. It was unexpected. Minato planned out that gamble as a counter attack that worked.

Tobi's reflexes though are extremely good though. Perhaps a tad below Minato's or up there with his. FTG just happened to be instantanious teleportation that is one of Tobi's S/T weaknesses.

As for him warping Sasuke at the Kage summit, it could've been plot. Though it's also possible that this time it was shown at its actual speed. Other times, it shows the entire absorbing process. It could be like those times when the manga allows us to see what's happening when in reality, they're going at extreme speeds that others at that spot wouldn't be able to see. His S/T is slower than FTG but could still be fast enough to not be noticed by other people. Just like some don't really get the chance to react when being warped. Minato's FTG was instant. Faster than Tobi's S/T. But he still had the reflexes to actually FTG to avoid being warped. Some people might be able to notice his S/T and react.

Other people like Kankuro at the summit noticed it was Tobi's S/T when he warped Karin to heal Sasuke. This proves that it's not instant but it is still fast. It could be seen by others but the process would be a few seconds. It still requires one to have good reflexes to avoid being warped.

Though I do believe that the battle took seconds or a few minutes but was shown in a motion for us to be able to see as the readers.

Tobi's intangibility is instantaneous. Also, it requires someone to have another S/T tech to avoid being warped. It just so happened had Minato one. I agree with most of your post.

 

[uchiha3]

they both will never be as fast as Dan

 

[kellzfresh]

that jinton incident was plot, tobi's s/t isnt instant like ftg tobi shouldnt of have been able to warp in jinton cube and manage to warp himself and sasuke out before it exploded,

I think he is that fast, bcos when danzo got sasuke in a cursed mark, tobi wanted to warp there and save sasuke before danzo's sword could get sasuke. In the video, tobi stopped when he realised sasuke's power matured.