jiraya is definately > orochimaru
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HiddenSound
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Uh, yeah, I've obviously seen that fight. That doesn't change the fact that Orochimaru didnt even try. Itachi would probably beat Orochimaru, he has the advantage. Jiraiya and Itachi are even. However abc logic is flawed, as you've already been told. Orochimaru has different jutsu for different occasions. What could Jiraiya do to Orochimaru?
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the overall logic to your argument is flawed. Itachi wanted to avoid the fight for the sake of the villiage, he didnt truely believe that Jman could defend against Kisame and myself. Also, Jman and Orochimaru are two different characters with two completely different styles, tho either could be caught with genjutsu.
While Jman is obviously strong, his attacks would have very little effect on Orochimaru and this has already been established that Oro>Jman overall. For, 3rd picked Oro to be Hokage first, Jman failed to bring Oro back and Oro failed to see him as a match-up (he's not that arrogant). The fact is, most of Jmans attacks could be tanked, avoided (attack prevention technique) or countered (snakes).
Base Jman alone stands a small chance, SM up's his chances thanks to Ma and Pa who has to prep song genjutstu.
So, its not the Orochimaru is>Jman, but he's just a horrible match-up for him. This is what makes Orochimaru BA, not many shinobi can match-up against him successfully.
While Jman is obviously strong, his attacks would have very little effect on Orochimaru and this has already been established that Oro>Jman overall. For, 3rd picked Oro to be Hokage first, Jman failed to bring Oro back and Oro failed to see him as a match-up (he's not that arrogant). The fact is, most of Jmans attacks could be tanked, avoided (attack prevention technique) or countered (snakes).
Base Jman alone stands a small chance, SM up's his chances thanks to Ma and Pa who has to prep song genjutstu.
So, its not the Orochimaru is>Jman, but he's just a horrible match-up for him. This is what makes Orochimaru BA, not many shinobi can match-up against him successfully.
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wow you serious that video was stupid. tsudade beat oro with out the use of his arms. rematch tsunade get wrecked she has no attacks that can kill oro all she can do is regenerate
blazekev90
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this can actually be countered, as Orochimaru's techniques have been shown to counter almost every technqiue possessed by MS users.
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Slug Princess Tsunade
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And Tsunade havent fought more than 20 (!!!) years. I think she was more weakened than Orochimaru.
HiddenSound
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You do remember Orochimaru had no ninjutsu and couldn't use his arms, right? So yeah, a high morale and healthy Tsunade>a crippled and armless, ninjutsuless Orochimaru who can only kick and use a sword in his mouth, who was already getting tired from fighting another Sannin stonger than Tsunade.
Is that the point you wanted to make? Because it kinda sucks for your argument.
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Slug Princess Tsunade
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HEALTHY TSUNADE? ARE YOU SERIUOS? DAMN, read again the manga please. She was weakened. She stayed away from fighting more than 20 years. She lost from her speed and power.
But the current Tsunade, who is fighting against Madara is clearly stronger than Orochimaru.
Ninjutsu vs Tsunade? She survived Madara's technique too. Dont say that Orochimaru can kill her with a simple ninjutsu.
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Jesus christ people stop being stupid... It's painfully obvious that Itachi never wanted to take naruto and give him to tobi nor fight jiraya...He even spared kakashi... he was pacifist.. If you think he wanted tobi to complete his moons eye plan, you're retarded...
if you think he wanted to fight Jiraya... Check yourself..
If you think what itachi said made any sort of sense .. aka jiraya can solo Kisame, itachi + more back up from akatuski, You sir are retarded
if you think he wanted to fight Jiraya... Check yourself..
If you think what itachi said made any sort of sense .. aka jiraya can solo Kisame, itachi + more back up from akatuski, You sir are retarded
HiddenSound
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Are we talking about the same Tsunade who just got new resolve, started believing in herself and her dreams and in Naruto, the same Tsunade who said she would be the Hokage and protector of the Leaf, the same Tsunade who cured her hemophobia 5 minutes ago? That Tsunade?
Here's another question, what can Tsunade do against Edo Tensei or Hydra Mode?
Slug Princess Tsunade
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What sort of edo tensei? Orochimaru has only two: The 1st and the 2nd. And they are sealed. This is all. We dont know about others.
Hidra mode? Katsuyu+ Tsunade combo.
HiddenSound
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*sigh* You really think Orochimaru is only restricted to two people? He could bring back a very strong shinobi for back up and Nawaki for mental torture. That will greatly slow her down.
Katsuyu could barely keep up with Manda, you think it can keep up with the Hydra who was far superior to and larger than Manda? There is a very, very strong chance that the Hydra can regenerate as well. You know that Kishi loves taking things from mythology, right? The mythological Hydra could regenerate, so Orochimaru's Hydra can more than likely regenerate as well.
All Tsunade's combat abilities lie in physical strength and Orochimaru can survive any and all physical attacks.
But, I'm done with this. You're obviously not willing to listen.
Slug Princess Tsunade
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You are the one who is not willing to listen ^^ You are and Orochimaru fan ( as me) and I'm a Tsunade fan. And as I see you hate her
"You really think Orochimaru is only restricted to two people? He could bring back a very strong shinobi for back up and Nawaki for mental torture. That will greatly slow her down."
Proove me that he can bring back them or other ninjas.
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HiddenSound
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I can't describe to you how stupid that sentence is. You have just lost this argument.