yes naruto is stronger than nagato

[Pravin5]

Nagato was an expert with those eyes.
Naruto let it go berserk. Again what you
trying to prove with these random comments?

was Nagato expert when he first had Rinnegan ????

NO he killed humans without him knowing whats happening.

He became expert when He got Experience using Rinnegan.

OLD Naruto wasnt expert using kyubi.

Current Naruto is Expert in using kyubi.

So your statement failed.

 

[NINJAMONKEYXD]

maan all this doesnt even matter Vegetas still the best!

 

[Pravin5]

What the..idk what to say to you.
Go watch every match with Pain and tell me he couldn't Control it.

you moron see my previous comments Nagato killed Leaf ninja who killed his parents. Without had any control on RG.

 

[OhReary]

was Nagato expert when he first had Rinnegan ????

NO he killed humans without him knowing whats happening.

He became expert when He got Experience using Rinnegan.

OLD Naruto wasnt expert using kyubi.

Current Naruto is Expert in using kyubi.

So your statement failed.

You're taking this way too personally.
Naruto vs Nagato. There has been only one fight in the anime so far.
Nagato was stronger, he mastered the Rinnegan. Naruto had SM, couldn't
control the fox.

In the manga, They confronted again. Nagato took on Km naruto
and bee.

Edit:You tell me who's stronger: Which was the point of this whole
thread which you blew out of proportion.

maan all this doesnt even matter Vegetas still the best!

This guy know's whats up.
Done here. Have fun putting Naruto on a pedestal.

 

[leeko]

You're taking this way too personally.
Naruto vs Nagato. There has been only one fight in the anime so far.
Nagato was stronger, he mastered the Rinnegan. Naruto had SM, couldn't
control the fox.

In the manga, They confronted again. Nagato took on Km naruto
and bee.

Edit:You tell me who's stronger: Which was the point of this whole
thread which you blew out of proportion.







This guy know's whats up.
Done here. Have fun putting Naruto on a pedestal.

goku is the best and what he is saying is even tho nagato couldnt control the rinnengan does him beating hanzou and others before actually count?

 

[Pravin5]

You're taking this way too personally.
Naruto vs Nagato. There has been only one fight in the anime so far.
Nagato was stronger, he mastered the Rinnegan. Naruto had SM, couldn't
control the fox.

In the manga, They confronted again. Nagato took on Km naruto
and bee.

Edit:You tell me who's stronger: Which was the point of this whole
thread which you blew out of proportion.

1. DID nagato mastered Rinnegan when he was born ???
Tell me the exact time Nagato spend to Master Rinnegan ????
How many year it took to become Expert using Rinnegan ???

2. If You are Saying Kyubi helped Naruto then you mad.
Kyubi helped both Naruto and Nagato. If it wasnt for Kyubi Naruto could have fused with Maa & Paa to gain Ultimate SM then Naruto had Win the match Mid diff.

3. When Naruto started the training to control kyubi. He did it in less than 10 days but when Nagato started training to control RG it took him too much time to completly control RG.

 

[leeko]

ay man i get what your saying and i agree

 

[FizzyDrink]

all true but i nagato cant absorb jutsu and dodge a punch at the same time .. naruto can do that his clones will handle the summons so go on because this is not enough :sy:

Nagato can however use Almighty Pull to eradicate the threat of a speed blitz. It worked very well when he fought Nagato the first time. Once Naruto is caught, he could get his soul sucked, or he could get blown up by the mechanical path, or get all of his chakra sucked out thus rendering Naruto much less powerful. And clones dealing with the summons? Like the dog summon which just gets more powerful? Or GEDO MAZO. Naruto and his clones would have an incredibly hard time fighting that beast. Also, the invisible chameleon could be used as a surprise to capture Naruto or hide Nagato, allowing Nagato the chance of a surprise attack. As well as the fact that Nagato can fly by controlling gravity, which would make it much more difficult for Naruto to reach him. Also, prime Nagato would have an even more powerful Chibaku tensei, and seeing as how Naruto would most likely not figure out how to destroy it on his own, he would definitely get sucked in. And maybe BM would be powerful enough to escape, but considering that this Chibaku Tensei would be even stronger, and also the fact that BM is limited, Nagato could most certainly capture Naruto in it. He could even do if after Naruto attempts BM, which would just get sucked in by Preta Path. In that case, Naruto would for SURE have no chance of surviving...There's more as well. Nagato just has too much variety for Naruto to handle.

Hmm... I see what you mean. And to be honest... I'm not so sure about that Nagato being able to defeat BM Naruto. He sure has the potential to do so, but I'm leaning towards Naruto being the victor. The only problem I see Naruto facing is Preta Path; seeing how most of Naruto's attacks are based on nothing but pure chakra, most of them would be nullified unless he has a strategy that forces Nagato to use another Path.

Naruto would probably have to distract Nagato before he can even think of landing an attack on him. But all-in-all... I think Naruto has the highest chance of winning.

Yes. Well, that is your opinion I suppose...I am however trying to prove otherwise in the part of my post above this. And by the way, I personally think BM Naruto would actually be far less useful against Nagato than say Kyuubi Mode or Sage Mode Naruto, considering that his BM transformation has no form, and is purely chakra. It would just be a feeding frenzy for Preta Path.

 

[leeko]

i think you are making nagato out to be to strong ... i think it would be a tough fight and prime nagato vs naruto is around = but ima say naruto has an edge because he is to fast for nagato and he can make alot of clones that are to fast .. and rasensuriken would destroy all of his summons beside gedo but it would hurt it forsure oh and he can use alot of rasenshurikens

 

[FizzyDrink]

i think you are making nagato out to be to strong ... i think it would be a tough fight and prime nagato vs naruto is around = but ima say naruto has an edge because he is to fast for nagato and he can make alot of clones that are to fast .. and rasensuriken would destroy all of his summons beside gedo but it would hurt it forsure oh and he can use alot of rasenshurikens

I am just pointing out Nagato's abilities. They are ALL Nagato's abilities. I think you have been underestimating him. As I mentioned, speed can be dealt with with preemptive Almighty pull/push, or a surprise capture by the chameleon, or by taking flight. Rasenshuriken would do NOTHING against his dog summon except to make it stronger; he would not be able to find the chameleon to use Rasenshuriken on it, and it would certainly not hurt Gedo Mazo badly. It would be minimal for sure. You are underestimating the power of Gedo Mazo. And obviously a rasenshuriken against Nagato himself would be completely useless due to Preta Path. Nagato just has too many answers for Naruto, but Naruto doesn't have answers to Nagato's power. Chibaku tensei once Naruto is out of Beast Mode would be a definite victory for Nagato. That's undeniable. His massive Shinra Tensei could also very easily spell the end. I haven't even mentioned what he could do with his mastery of all 5 elements either, and I haven't even mentioned the full power of 2 of his other paths. Just face it. Even though it is close, prime Nagato is certainly superior.

 

[FizzyDrink]

1. DID nagato mastered Rinnegan when he was born ???
Tell me the exact time Nagato spend to Master Rinnegan ????
How many year it took to become Expert using Rinnegan ???

2. If You are Saying Kyubi helped Naruto then you mad.
Kyubi helped both Naruto and Nagato. If it wasnt for Kyubi Naruto could have fused with Maa & Paa to gain Ultimate SM then Naruto had Win the match Mid diff.

3. When Naruto started the training to control kyubi. He did it in less than 10 days but when Nagato started training to control RG it took him too much time to completly control RG.

1. You're first point has absolutely no meaning and in no way would affect a theoretical fight between Naruto and Nagato.

2. It doesn't matter who it helped, what matters is what happened. Naruto could NOT fuse, which is something that would have happened whether there was plot involved in the battle, or no plot. However, Hinata coming out of nowhere and almost dying to protect Naruto, thus triggering his release of the Nine Tails? ENTIRELY PLOT. That is not something that would happen in a hypothetical battle. Even then, a VERY weakened Nagato was still almost able to control it. Don't you think that a full powered Nagato would not have as much trouble?

3. I don't know what RG is, but truth is, in a battle, it does not matter how long it took someone to learn a technique. What matters is that in the battle, that person CAN use that technique. If you want to see how Nagato beats Naruto, you can just look at my comments on this thread.

 

[enditallsin]

Nagato in terms of diverse abilities > Naruto
Naruto raw strength > Nagato
in the end the fight goes either way
Nagato = Naruto
Either could beat the other if they really wanted to

i]I agree with this.

 

[Pravin5]

1. You're first point has absolutely no meaning and in no way would affect a theoretical fight between Naruto and Nagato.

2. It doesn't matter who it helped, what matters is what happened. Naruto could NOT fuse, which is something that would have happened whether there was plot involved in the battle, or no plot. However, Hinata coming out of nowhere and almost dying to protect Naruto, thus triggering his release of the Nine Tails? ENTIRELY PLOT. That is not something that would happen in a hypothetical battle. Even then, a VERY weakened Nagato was still almost able to control it. Don't you think that a full powered Nagato would not have as much trouble?

3. I don't know what RG is, but truth is, in a battle, it does not matter how long it took someone to learn a technique. What matters is that in the battle, that person CAN use that technique. If you want to see how Nagato beats Naruto, you can just look at my comments on this thread.

current Naruto beats Nagato.

 

[FizzyDrink]

current Naruto beats Nagato.

Ok, read all of the arguments I've made, and tell me how Naruto can beat Nagato. Tell me something I haven't already mentioned. If you do, I'll find a way for Nagato to counter it.

 

[Pravin5]

Ok, read all of the arguments I've made, and tell me how Naruto can beat Nagato. Tell me something I haven't already mentioned. If you do, I'll find a way for Nagato to counter it.

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First See this Naruto was trying to help Bee thats the Only Reason he got Caught by Nagato. it wasnt a straight 1 vs 1 Battle like when Naruto had with six paths of Pain.

Hear Shikakau if you want to do best teamwork then Leave the strong one to fight another strong one .

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Do you even Know nagato got unlimited chakra and undying body because he was Edo. there is lot Dffrence in Edo Nagato >>>>> Prime Nagato.

NOW See battle

1. Nagato cant even Compare to SM Naruto Spped.
Now see Nagato Speed <<< SM Speed <<<<< 4th Raikage Speed << KM Naruto <<<<<< BM Naruto Speed.

2. Current BM Naruto can Do
[ 1 BM, More than 10 KM Clone, More than 5 SM Clone ]
Naruto Will beat Nagato.

3. If you think Nagato can suck all the chakra you mad Narutos Speed is too much Nagato cant even see Naruto. Naruto will Beat him like this

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Dont tell me it was pain and all if you are going to say that then show me a manga proof where Nagato can counter SM Tai-jutsu.

 

[PTR]

Nooo, he's not

 

[Thundercles]

true the fight could still go either way if he could use his power but it isnt a guarantee win for him

but realistically speaking BM Naruto would destroy prime nagato

I dont think the OP was talking about BM Naruto. Plus, wasnt Naruto having probs with Edo Nagato?

 

[icedonkey]

I think Nagato/pein>> Naruto at the time of the first fight
Nagato> Naruto at the time of the second fight
and I think Naruto > Nagato currently

K These are my reasons( I know its crazy long)

we all know when Naruto fought six paths of Pein he had a lot of "help" and advantages over pein in intention diffences,most importantly "plot no jutsu" and to top it off "talk no jutsu".

I mean whose to say that EVEN if Naruto does beat all six paths WITHOUT all these advantages (which is highly unlikely in my opinion) that if he touches Nagato Nagato doesn't just absorb some of his bijuu chakra, "un-skinnying" himself so to speak. Then its start all over for Naruto except at "super hard mode".

So I think its pretty obvious that at that point in the story Nagato/pein>>Naruto

now for the 2nd fight with B, Naruto and Itachi vs Nagato, A argument can be made to say that Nagato wasn't truly beaten because he was being controlled, In other words weaker then he would be,
I however see no proof in this and therefore reject it.

It seems that Nagato also effortlessly fought off Naruto and B while Naruto was in KM however this also can't be fully accepted, as their greatest advatage over Nagato (teamwork) was also somewhat of a disadvantage (although how easily Nagato handled them has to take SOME account)

My greatest piece of evidence though for Nagato being better then Naruto at this stage in the story in my opinion is....

when Nagato uses chibaku tensei, Naruto claims that if they(Itachi, B and Naruto) are hit by it they're dead(despite the fact he survived it before) and I believe if Nagato had fought Naruto 1 on 1 at the time, I believe he would of.
Why else would kishi make it so that all 3 had to fire their best moves (destructive moves of course) at the same time?I know it know its assuming...but use common sense...
I don't believe Naruto had the firepower of a TBB, rasen shuriken and Yasaka Magatama all in one move, at that time.
so if It was a 1vs1 fight Nagato would surly win with just 1 chibaku tensei right?(remember thats him only using chibaku tensei)

and for those that would say that it was EDO Nagato therefor limitless chakra, this is easily brushed off, did he ever really show a multitude or magnitude of techniques that he has never shown before?

all in all I believe Edo or not Nagato "un-skinnied" > Naruto at that point in the story.

Now finally I think Naruto currently in the manga is better then any Nagato "form" we've seen because of his new BM no reason really needed(though in no way shape or form would it be a walk in the park for Naruto).

Although remember we've never seen Nagato TRULY go all out, or Nagato Prime, "mobile" (feat work) with all 6 paths with him and also remember he had mastery of all "mainstream" elemental jutsus
although I still doubt he could beat BM though

 

[uchihax]

Lol , ovbiously! Naruto is way more powerful than nagato , stop overrating nagato , just because you saw him in his prime

 

[Dragon1]

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First See this Naruto was trying to help Bee thats the Only Reason he got Caught by Nagato. it wasnt a straight 1 vs 1 Battle like when Naruto had with six paths of Pain.

Hear Shikakau if you want to do best teamwork then Leave the strong one to fight another strong one .

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Do you even Know nagato got unlimited chakra and undying body because he was Edo. there is lot Dffrence in Edo Nagato >>>>> Prime Nagato.

NOW See battle

1. Nagato cant even Compare to SM Naruto Spped.
Now see Nagato Speed <<< SM Speed <<<<< 4th Raikage Speed << KM Naruto <<<<<< BM Naruto Speed.

2. Current BM Naruto can Do
[ 1 BM, More than 10 KM Clone, More than 5 SM Clone ]
Naruto Will beat Nagato.

3. If you think Nagato can suck all the chakra you mad Narutos Speed is too much Nagato cant even see Naruto. Naruto will Beat him like this

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Dont tell me it was pain and all if you are going to say that then show me a manga proof where Nagato can counter SM Tai-jutsu.

Why are you even counting SM now? Even if Naruto can do it with KM, we haven't seen it yet. Maybe he can't lol.