Proof that Akatsuki > 10 Greatest Kages of History (Actual Explanation Inside)

[Weezy]

Wow that was alot to read but nice job +rep

 

[shanee]

dude, this is where its at! good points and although i wished that muu would win, i agree that itachi would beat him.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

-1) Itachi vs Second Tsuchikage ~Itachi
-2) Kisame vs Second Hokage ~ With edo,tobirama , without , kisame. i think its without edo so, kisame.
-3) Hidan vs Fifth Mizukage ~ ~Fifth mizukage
-4) Deidara vs Fourth Hokage ~ ~Minato
-5) Kakuzu vs Second Mizukage ~ ~kakuzu
-6) Sasori vs Third Kazekage ~ ~sasori
-7) Zetsu vs Fifth Kazekage ~ ~gaara
-8) Nagato vs Third Hokage ~ ñagato
-9) Konan vs Third Tsuchikage ~ Third tsuchikage.
-10)Tobi vs Third Raikage ~ Tobi


Wins by akatsuki :

Itachi, kisame , Kakuzu , Sasori , Nagato , Tobi, (6)

Wins by kages :
Mei,Minato,Gaara,Onoki. (4)


Akatsuki wins 6 - 4.

this pretty much ^. although +rep for the OP.

 

[Negative Knight]

Spoiler

1. I agree Itachi wins, and depending on how it goes, it could range from low-high difficulty. Tsukuyomi + totsuka would be instant victory, but if that doesn't happen then it would be a hard battle testing itachi's stamina but he would win.

2.Kisame does indeed win hands down. His shark attack and absorbing ability would be too much for many shinobi. and as i've said before the second hokage would never use edo (even if he mastered it, he made it forbidden) and we have no clue how powerful his s/t is, except for it is weaker then tobi + 4th hokage and more likely would be on the level of Kakashi's.

3. Second miaukage wins . Clam genjutsu + his exploding clone would beat kakuzu. First, i think the oil + water would act as a neutralizer for lighting, but even if it doesn't that clone is WAYYYYY to fast for his attacks to hit it. Thats without the clam confusing kakuzu where the hell it truly is.

4. I don't even think this battle should be in here, due to the fact that sasori already beat him. Shhould be replaced with someone else, (only two left would be tsunade or danzo, and i would pick danzo to be on my team)
Danzo vs sasori would be automatically danzo. Sharingan to predict movements of puppets which avoids a lot of hits to begin with, and if he ever gets hit izangai a bunch.


5. Agreed, minato wins this handily. Throws a kunai, marks the clay and rasengans. (may be a clay clone, but would also be marked in case because thats how minato works) Next time he tries to use that clay minato teleports.
Also, any HUGE explosion minato will warp it somewhere else (C4 or suicide) OR he will just run away for a few minutes.

6. Hidan Loses Mei uses Hidden mist technique and then spits lava on him to harden and stop his tracks. Follows up with melting mist. She then realizes hes not dying, so she just turns the acidity up to 100% melting his skin, and eventually his bones.
Alternative: instead of melting, uses water bullets to slice off head. ( like the second mizukage did)

(shes not a taijutsu fighter so she knows how to dodge some clumsy attacks long enough to actually hit him)


7. You gave zetsu the worst opponent for him. Gaara is a master of fighting and sensing multiple opponents at once. Even 2v1, it has shown white zetsu is weak as hell! Also if zetsu ever tried to jump on him and suck his chakara he could just shed his sand armor instantly . Lastly, i cannot see zetsu ever getting close to him while he is flying. so Gaara gets this one.


8. You give her WAY to much credit, Konan loses easily. if she ever tries to send tons of paper bombs at him, he would just jinton them and they are destroyed at a partical level. Plus don't forget how freakin fast Ooniki is he could dodge that easily.

9. Nagato wins. Hiruzen could NEVER get close enough to use the reaper death seal. Nagato simply pushes away. I do think that Hiruzen's monkey poll could prevent him from getting sucked up into CT (preventing a one hit KO and making it an actual battle). I think the push/pull, animals, and the fact he can absorb ninjutsu, would make it too much for hirzune prime



10. Tobi wins. Warps him into another dimension. Tobi comes back. Tobi won.


So this leaves the following left in battle
AKatsuki
Itachi
Kisame
Nagato
Tobi


Kages
Second Mizukage
Minato
Mei
Gaara
Ooniki

(this takes out sasori because of the whole third kazakage not being a proper opponent for him)(also takes out the fact danzo could be on kages side)

Like wise i agree with the most part of what you said except concerning 4 of the fights

Deidara can combine multiple methods to beat Minato e.g.

-Flying out of Range with C2 Draogn

-Using the C4 Microscopic bombs as a trump card

-Clay mines underground so he has to stay in air with FTG

-Tracker bombs to increase the pressure

Konan has shown to be very effective with her exploding paper clones and took off Tobi's whole arm even though he sucked in the majority of the explosion


Sasori didn't fight the Third Kazekage, he kidnapped him and there was no sign of struggle or a fight.


Zetsu was able to plant his spores at the Five Kage summit and if he does get it onto gaara then he wins otherwise he flees

+Rep for the very comprehensive reply to my thread and a very through analysis

 

[Y3llovv fla5h]

Akatsuki vs 10 Greatest Kages of History
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Points to read before reading the thread:
-Hashirama Senju is not included as his level of strength is too much for any shinobi even if Madara Uchiha was to join Akatsuki

-The Fourth Raikage is not included as he is a weaker version of his dad

-A>B>C Logic doesn't apply in this thread, though Shikamaru beat Hidan he can still beat people stronger than shikamaru

-These match ups are for the sole purpose of hightlighting the Akatsuki's strength level against their own or to show there is a such thing as a bad matchup e.g. Minato and Deidara



Contents
-1) Itachi vs Second Tsuchikage
-2) Kisame vs Second Hokage
-3) Hidan vs Fifth Mizukage
-4) Deidara vs Fourth Hokage
-5) Kakuzu vs Second Mizukage
-6) Sasori vs Third Kazekage
-7) Zetsu vs Fifth Kazekage
-8) Nagato vs Third Hokage
-9) Konan vs Third Tsuchikage
-10)Tobi vs Third Raikage

Itachi Uchiha vs Second Tsuchikage ​

Why Itachi could win against the Second Tsuchikage ?​

1) Destructive Nature of Amaretsu that can parallel Jinton
As i mentioned earlier Amaretsuand Dust Release both share the same principe of being the user's ultimate ninjutsu and the ability to be lethal with as little as one succesful hit, Amaretsu constantly burning till nothing remains and Dust Release disintegrating the user on contact. This would give Itachi a good advantage in the sense he is able counter Mu's Jinton and his opponent has to be weary as himself because of the fatality of eachother's Jutsus.

2) Yata Mirror able to defend against Jinton
The Yata Mirror has been stated in the Manga to be able to deflect any attack and so should do the same with Mu's Dust Release. This would give Itachi's Susanno increased durability as Mu is unable to one shot his susanno how Oonki was shown to do to several Susanno Clones all at once. It also disarms Mu's most powerful projectiles techniques and only allows him to rely more heavily on his large scale Earth Techniques.

3) Genjutsu's ability to avoid direct confrontations
Itachi also has the advantage of having another move that can win the match with one successful use. Tsukymoni. The nature of this technique immoblises the opponent and does heavy damage (leaving Kakashi in the hospital for a extended period after one use) in general. The user can then go in for a simple kill and end the match with that. Genjutsu can only be used to make the terrain look different e.g. make much more cover appear then there actually is meaning taking cover behind the terrain wouldn't actually work.

Kisame Hoshigaki vs Second Hokage​

Why Kisame could defeat the Second Hokage ?
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1) Theoretical Unlimited Stamina and wearing down the opponent
Kisame's high chakra levels when used in conjuction with his symbiotic relationship with Samehada gives him a great advantage in battle as fatigue no longer becomes a determining factor in his part and if he is able to survive
a long match whilst dragging it whilst simultaneously gradually absorbing the opponent's chakra then it no longer becomes a question of "if" Kisame wins the fight but "when" Tobirama can no longer fight or his combat capacity drops below that of Kisame.

2) Ability to match and even exceed Tobirama's Water Ninjutsu
Kisame has shown time and time again to be extremely proficent with Water Release Ninjutsu being able to summon large amounts of water which could argubably rival the level of Tobirama's Water Release. His Great Water Shark Bullet Jutsu is able to become infinitely stronger depending on the magnitude of the opponent's ninjutsu meaning Tobirama's masses of water release would only strengthen Kisame's trump card to a unimaginable level of strength which would undoubtedly win him the match.

3) Ability to Warp the Terrain + Samehada Fusion Mode
Kisame's Water Release can also be used for another purpose of warping the very terrain to benefit him e.g. when he summoned the Water Dome Jutsu which would of killed Killer Bee if Kisame wished it to. Then he can counter his own weakness of drowning by fusing with Samehada which means he can also attack the opponent whilst in the dome causing them to drown much quicker.

Hidan vs Fifth Mizukage​

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Why Hidan would be able to Defeat the Fifth Mizukage?​

1) Immunity to the nature of Mei's Jutsus and fighting style
Due to the way Mei fights relying heavily on her two Kekkei Genkai and rarely if ever showing any Taijutsu, she was shown to be equally matched in Taijutsu with black Zetsu meaning her level in close combat is extremely low. This means it wouldn't be in Mei's capacity to take off Hidan's head meaning he could simply wear her down or overwhelm her with his superior taijutsu. Hidan is also immune to Mei's non destructive water release techniques, can tank both her kekkei genkais if necessary and can land a destructive hit as a result.

2) Fatality of Hidan's Fighting Style
Hidan's fighting style when combined with his signature move: Curse Jutsu Death Possession blood is a fatal combo as simply landing one hit whether light or heavy, drawing blood would be the same as killing the opponent. If the opponent is unable to behead hidan then his fighting style reaches the fatality level of landing one successful of Amaretsu and Jinton.


3) Hidan's Superior Taijutsu and agility
Hidan far exceeds Mei when it comes to physical capabilities, whether its agility, taijutsu, strength and speed (demonstrated through his evasion of a fire ball at point blank range). This means that tanking all of Mei's medium range jutsus would mean if he gets her in a one on one close range confrontation he would eventually overwhelm her and succeed in drawing in blood, effectively killing Mei.

Deidara and Fourth Hokage​

Why Deidara could defeat the Fourth Hokage ?​

1) Deidara's C4 Microscopic Bomb Trump Card
I've already explained how devastating this Jutsu is and it most likely Deidara's winning the fight against Minato. This jutsu is undetectable by Minato and without prior knowledge or the sharingan it is seemingly undodgeable as well. Minato would be unable to deduce that there are microscopic bombs and the fact they enter your blood stream through your respiratory system.

2) Range of the Battle + C2 Clay Mines
Deidara is also able to use the range of the battle to his advantage by flying on his C2 Dragon rendering Minato's close range ninjutsu momentarily useless. Combinded with Deidara's clay mines he is able to prevent Minato moving on the ground meaning he must remain airborn. Also Summons are made unavailable because of the lack of terrain to summon them to.

3) Tracking Nature of Clay Bombs
Another way Deidara beats Minato is combining the above things with tracking clay bombs that put pressure on Minato by making him constantly move with FTG by remaining airborn whilst simultaneously dodging volley after volley of small creatures who explode on contact and track him. This would mean Minato would need to constantly use his FTG Kunai without having them to reuse them thus putting pressure on his supply after the fall to the minefield below.

Kakuzu vs Second Mizukage​

Why Kakuzu could defeat the Second Mizukage ?​

1) Elemental Versatility and Advantage
Kakuzu has the overall advantage in this battle having a seeminly infinite amount of battle tactics compared to the Second Mizukage who is limited in movset when compared to Kakuzu. He is able to use Long Range Katon (fire) attacks when at a distance to overwhelm the Second Mizukage and with the added side effect of dehydrating him quicker meaning he fatigues much faster. His Wind Release can be used a mid range offensive, used to knock away projectiles and strengthen his fire for a even more devastating effect.

Kakuzu's main advantage is the use of his lightnign elmenet which can be used as a one shot win paralyzing the Mizukage when he is in his Hozuki state and then finishing him with a large scale elemental barrage. The Second Mizukage's severe weakness to lightning release techniques could be his downfall in this fight.

2) Immunity to Second Mizukage's Taijutsu and Exploding Clone
Kakuzu's technique Earth Release: Earth Spear hardens his skin to its utmost limits making it as hard as diamond. This renders Taijutsu useless against him and makes him extremely resistant to the blasts of the Second Mizukage's Infinite Exploding Clone.

3) Outnumbering the Second Mizukage 5 vs 1 and Immortality
Kakuzu combined with his sentient creatures who contain his other 4 hearts outnumber the Second Mizukage at 5 to 1 meaning the odds are literally stacked against him. Five opponent's fighting him at once makes it impossible for him to cast his genjutsu as the 4 black creatures shoot volleys of elemental blasts ruthlessly and indiscriminately.

Sasori vs The Third Kazekage
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Why Sasori could defeat the Third Kazekage ?​

1)Lethal nature of Sasori's Successful Attacks
Sasori's attacks landing on the opponent is as deadly as Hidan drawing blood due to all of his weapons being poisoned meaning even a single cut could prove to be fatal. Due to no prior knowledge on Sasori the opponent won't realize how deadly him landing even successful hit is and having no antidote readily available means you'll eventually become immobilized and swiftly killed by Sasori.

2)Battle Versatitliy and Infinite Battle Tactics
Due to Sasori having a collection of 298 Puppets of Shinobi who retain their ablates means that he can in theory utilize many Kekkei Genkais and elemental abilities. This gives him a battle versatility like no other Shinobi due to the nature of him being able to alternate between Human puppets and utilize their techniques as his own.

Hiruko takes this to the next level as Sasori is able fight in close combat despite being a puppet user meaning he eliminates a puppet user's biggest weakness and alternating between his different forms would be difficult for the opponent as they constantly have to adapt to different fighting styles in a life/death situation.

3)Overwhelming 100 Puppets + Fire Release Techniques
Sasori's final trump card his performance of 100 Puppets is guaranteed to overwhelm the opponent and win him the match. Throughout the match the opponent is constantly having to adpat to Sasori's different styles of fighting but his final form is too much to handle increasing his puppet amount from a maximum 2 (Mother and Father) to a massive 100 meaning the battle becomes 101 vs 1 and assuming their weapons are all poisoned then one hit is fatal.

Combined with Sasori's powerful fire streams it becomes near impossible to evade all of their attacks and the Third Kazekage is pushed to become increasingly defensive with his Iron Sand making the risk of him attacking and killing Sasori decrease greatly.

Zetsu vs The Fifth Kazekage​

Why Zetsu could win against the Fifth Kazekage?​

1) Planting Chakra Sucking Spores on Gaara
This is Zetsu's main and one of his only ways of being able to win a fight against a Gaara. By planting Gaara with these spores whilst distracting him with White Zetsu clones can almost guarantee a win against Gaara. After they're planted on him they erupt and begin to restrain him. With no way of escaping it Gaara's chakra is rapidly sucked out of him.

He can also combine this with the below method for further effectiveness

2) Overwhelm him Clones + Body Stealing Transformation
White Zetsu is able to overwhlem Gaara's ultimate sand defense with countless clones of himself which would distract him from the main white zetsu who blends into the crowd in the frenzy of attacks.

White Zetsu can use this for several purposes

-Plant spores on Gaara with the same sneak method used in the Five Kage Summit to hold down the Kage

-Erupt the spores to restrain Gaara and simultaneously drain his chakra levels drastically

-Proceed to allow the White Zetsu clones to absorb Gaara's Chakra and make a army of weaker Gaara clones. This means that Gaara is in a critical state of weakness when he breaks out faced against an army of Gaara's (which are arguably stronger than him) meaning they can control his sand when he aims to use it against them. Also because of the sheer numbers they can hold back even his largest techniques because of the combined effort of all the Gaara identicals.

Konan vs Third Tsuchikage​

Why Konan could defeat the Third Tscuhikage ?

1) Restraining Onoki with paper + Bombarding him with Explosive Clones
Konan can use her clones for two purposes, essentially using them as intelligent kamikaze bombs. They can be used in bulk to smother and restrict Onoki (as shown in the pain invasion arc when Konan was interrogating people) and cause them to all explode simultaneously. This method was shown to be used against Tobi taking off his right arm and half of his mask even though he sucked in the majority of the explosion.

2) Ability to avoid Jinton + Weightlessness
Konan's Dance of shikigami allows her to become as weightless as paper as well as fly very quickly compared to other aerial shinobi. Due to the slow nature of Jinton, Konan would be able to avoid it constantly because of her incredibly fast flying due to her being made of individual sheets of paper.

3) Outnumbering Onoki with Paper Clones
Konan was shown to be in almost every location in the pain invasion Arc, she was also shown with a massive amount of paper clones when fighting against the Aburame clan. Due to their sensory abilities they narrowly escaped Konan's explosive clones assault which would of killed them or severely maimed them.

Due to the odds Konan could greatly outnumber Onoki preoccupying him with attacking her weightless clones which can avoid all of his large scale and much slower attacks.

It can also make hitting Onoki with explosive clones much easier as being preoccupied with odds starting from 11 vs 1 would divide both Onoki's efforts and attention to Konan's underlying effects of the technique.

Nagato vs Hiruzen Prime​

Why Nagato would be able to defeat the Third Hokage ?​

1) The Trump Card of Planetary Devastation
This is Nagato's Trump card against Hiruzen similar to his use of the Reaper Death Seal. Hiruzen has no known counter except his Katon techniques which could be taken out by rubble crushing over it, his Earth Techniques would simply strengthen the technique by "adding fuel to the fire", simply increasing the size of the structure inevitably strengthening its gravitational pull on hiruzen causing it to become even stronger furthering the vicious cycle of getting infinitely stronger.

2) Massive Elemental Versatility and Infinite Battle Tactics
Nagato's ability to use every single one of the five basic elements means he has a advantage over every element by using his in a efficent way.

It also gives him the ability to have infinite battle tactics using the following method:

-Fire Element used as a Long Range Offensive Method to use in volleys and large superheated blasts to overwhelm Hiruzen.

-Wind Element used as a Mid Range offensive method to deflect Hiruzen's projectiles.

-Earth Element used as a strength boost, transportation, offensive and defensive elements. It can also be used to warp the terrain.

-Lightning Element can be used in many versatile situations e.g. to demagnetize the Third Kazekage's iron sand, paralyze user's of the Hozuki Clan and also to overpower Hiruzen's Earth Element techs.

3) Ability to absorb all Ninjutsu used by Hiruzen
Nagato also has the ability to absorb all ninjutsu used by Hiruzen severely disadvantaging him in battle.

It also means that Nagato can have a distinct advantage in terms of the elements as if Hiruzen's Earth Element overpowers his Water element then he can absorb the incoming blast rather than having to worry about a impending threat which is overpowering his own ninjutsu, basically allowing him to turn disadvantage into a advantage.

Tobi (Sharingan) Vs Third Raikage​

Due to the nature of knowing little about Tobi's Abilities a small summary is going to be used instead

Results of the Battles​

My Opinion on who wins the chosen match ups

1) Itachi Wins: Itachi has shown great feats of speed allowing him to avoid Muu's dangerous technique of Jinton. Muu would do the same with Amarestu meaning neither destructive attack would land successfully. Itachi's susanno possessing the forbidden weapons, the totsuka sword and Yata mirror means Jinton can be deflect (maintain Itachi's Susanno) and one successful hit of either Amarestu or the totsuka sword ends the fight for Muu.

Itachi sharingan is also able to see his chakra when he is invincible so his threat of a sneak attack is eliminated by this ability of the sharingan

Itachi also has his trump card of his amazing genjutsu capabilities to use as another method to immobilize and kill Muu.

2) Kisame Wins: His unique ability of sucking out the opponent's chakra is not to be ignored, restoring his own strength whilst exhuasting the opponent, creates a gap which gets ever larger between himself and Tobirama meaning that his performance decreases as the fight goes on meaning unless he finds some sort of method to end the fight quickly then Kisame will inevitably win.

His Shark Transformation is also something to be feared as Tobirama's own water ninjutsu is taken advantage of by Kisame as he can move much more quickly and absorb Tobirama by simply touching him.

Finally Kisame's trump card of the Great Shark water bullet is too much for Tobirama to counter and if used effectively (like we saw against guy except his attack was a Taijutsu tech) then he could make his finisher become infinitely stronger and potentially becoming a one hit K.O move.

3) Kakuzu Wins: The odds being stacked against the Second Mizukage in terms of it being 5 vs 1, the elemental advantage being in Kakuzu's favour e.g. Large Scale Fire and Lightning techniques. Kakuzu's Diamond defense means that he is immune to taijutsu and almost immunity to his Steaming Danger Tyranny technique.

Kakuzu having 5 allies means that he has a plausible counter to the Mizukage's Genjutsu

Kakuzu's Final Trump card of large scale elemental techniques combined with his Earth Grudge Fear transformation means that the Second Mizukage's Hozuki technique becomes a disadvantage if anything especially considering Kakuzu's lightning paralyzes him in his liquid state and large scale fire techniques dehydrate the Second Mizukage fatiguing him much quicker meaning as with Kisame a long drawn out battle means a inevitable loss for the Mizukage.

4) Sasori Wins: due to the fatality of Sasori's fighting style it is close to impossible for the Third Kazekage to evade/dodge every single attack. Also due to Sasori's poison he would have to be on a massive defensive giving him little to no opportunity to attack.

Sasori's constant change of fighting style is also problematic for the Third Kazekage making it difficult for him to win as having to adapt to several different fighting styles in a battle situation can prove to be impossible to most ninja.im

5)Deidara loses
Due to the nature of Deidara's fighting style he is a perfect match up to defeat Minato due to his C4: Microscopic bombs.

However Minato's FTG technique can be used to lead his own bombs into him, destroying his C2 Dragon and leading him on his own C2 Clay mines. His layout of very problematic if Minato (which he will) he can lure the tracking bombs near deidara, use a FTG kunai to "go through" Deidara and allow the bombs to explode on him.

Deidara's dragon being made of explosive clay gets caught in the resultant blast making it even more catastrophic, whilst damage and falling to the ground there is a very high chance he would hit into the clay mines on the floor finishing him off without using any of his own offensive techniques.

Also Deidara's arrogant nature could give the win to Minato if he doesn't
correctly estimate his power.

6) Hidan wins: With no attacks able to kill Hidan, her taijutsu paling in comparison to that of Hidan means she is unable to decapitate him.

Without no knowledge Mei would surely be on less of a guard then she should be and the nature of his triple scythe means it is the perfect weapon to draw blood.

Mei would underestimate her opponent due to no knowledge of his powers meaning his fighting style is a Jinton concealed in ordinary Taijutsu attacks.

7) Zetsu Wins: with his Mayfly technique he is able to anywhere on the terrain at any given moment, used in conjunction with splitting from Black Zetsu means the two of them are able disorientate Gaara and distract
him giving apt opportunity to use his Chakra draining spore technique.

Also overwhelming Gaara with white zetsu clones who are fairly proficient in combat means that his attention would be very split and he would no longer have time to notice the original white Zetsu.

Finally Zetsu can activate the spores to first restrain Gaara and because he isn't a physical fighter he struggles for a extended period of time whilst his chakra is sapped from his body, the remaining white Zetsu clones can bind to him in this time and create a weaker army of Gaara, a battalion of basic sand users. This means in the event that he breaks out then they can counter his weakened sand attacks and overwhelm him because of the sheer number of them.

8) Konan Draws/Onoki Wins
Unable to beat Onoki by normal means Konan gets suicidal and swarms with her Explosive paper clones determined to kill him. The all explode simultanouesly including Konan who is restraining him, causing them both to die.

Konan used this method on Tobi to kill him but he sucked in the majority of the explosion only losing his arm and half of his mask.

9) Nagato Draws
Hiruzen wouldn't allow himself to lose, so the Reaper Death Seal kills both him and Nagato after a heated and pretty equal battle.


10) Undecided - Tobi

I would say
Itachi wins
Tobirama wins
Kakuzu wins
Minato wins
Mei wins
Gaara wins
Oonoki wins
Nagato wins
Tobi(current?) undecided as u said!

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

bullshxt dude you understimate dude kages would win ok the 5 hokages will destroyem all dude just fail akatsuki fanboi if they where that strong and can defatem why wouldnt they do it already if deidra could be minato why didnt hhe akat kill em already dude fail

 

[mintoandkushina]

DAMN +rep for effort. Only thing about itachi yata mirror though, can it really stop jinton?

 

[Nagato Rattengift]

Love your threads. +rep

 

[Negative Knight]

Yellow Flash make sure you put Spoiler tags around the part u quote its too long xd

Thanks for the comments and + Rep guys its really appreciated

Rakwan Uzumaki u just make me laugh xd

 

[Mr Byte]

BIASED AS ****. Those Kages will annihilate the Akatsuki (when you are not thinking with your knees). Match ups are biased and scenarios are also biased. Youre belittling the power of KAGES.

 

[sindi1997]

Fantastic efort and logic my friend i fully support you and you have my +rep you fully deserve it

 

[Dunmire66]

Can we get real nagato would butt rape Hiruzen. That is my only argument here ha ha. :shrug:

 

[DeViliShChild]

Like wise i agree with the most part of what you said except concerning 4 of the fights

Deidara can combine multiple methods to beat Minato e.g.

-Flying out of Range with C2 Draogn

-Using the C4 Microscopic bombs as a trump card

-Clay mines underground so he has to stay in air with FTG

-Tracker bombs to increase the pressure

Konan has shown to be very effective with her exploding paper clones and took off Tobi's whole arm even though he sucked in the majority of the explosion


Sasori didn't fight the Third Kazekage, he kidnapped him and there was no sign of struggle or a fight.


Zetsu was able to plant his spores at the Five Kage summit and if he does get it onto gaara then he wins otherwise he flees

+Rep for the very comprehensive reply to my thread and a very through analysis

Minato*

Well frist off, Deidara has no clay mines. Tobi planted those in the fight with Sasuke, so the best deidara could do would be do have visable mines sitting on top of the surface.

Second, Kunai can reach Deidara, or if he REALLY wants to, he can chain kunai throw up to reach him. (I.E. throw teleport, catch, repeat.)

Third, If you remember His C4 is a HUGE clone of himself exploding, do you really thing minato would sit around for that explosion?!.
Like i said, minato would warp it away, OR just leave the battlefield for a little bit.

Fourth tracker. bombs are nothing when he can teleport.


this is all based on the fact that mianto doesn't instantly KILL HIM. Deidara wouldn't whip out his best "art" right away. not even vs sauske (one of his most hated people) He would not live To even make the dragon or C4.


Konan

She took off his arm because of the type of his ability.Tobi had to absorb , which requires taking the opponent super close to your body. Ooniki has no need for this. He is faster then she is, by far. So he could outrun clones if he wanted to. Jinton simply obliterates the clones. Plus, he knows fire technique's and paper is not too good vs fire



Sasori

To kidnap somebody you would need to immobilize them enough to take them. A fight had to ensue. Even if they didn't fight, i still pick danzo as the stronger Kage, and as such should be in his place. But you are right it just says he was "kidnapped" so it's possible he poisoned, and grabbed him and ran.



Gaara
It's true that he was able to hit Mei + group, and Ooniki + gorup, but the fact that Gaara uses sand (which still reacts without him moving) would instantly get rid of something on him. Also like i said before he always wears sand armor, so Zetsu would be grabbing the chakara he poured into his sand (before hand) so no real loss of chakara is had, unless he replenishes the shield. In addition, how are they going to get to him when he's flying in the air?


P.S. Ty for rep+, you deserve it as well. Your last few threads have been very well laid out and they even have pictures!

 

[jiraiya lives]

+rep for all the effort put into this

 

[Negative Knight]

Spoiler

Minato*

Well frist off, Deidara has no clay mines. Tobi planted those in the fight with Sasuke, so the best deidara could do would be do have visable mines sitting on top of the surface.

Second, Kunai can reach Deidara, or if he REALLY wants to, he can chain kunai throw up to reach him. (I.E. throw teleport, catch, repeat.)

Third, If you remember His C4 is a HUGE clone of himself exploding, do you really thing minato would sit around for that explosion?!.
Like i said, minato would warp it away, OR just leave the battlefield for a little bit.

Fourth tracker. bombs are nothing when he can teleport.


this is all based on the fact that mianto doesn't instantly KILL HIM. Deidara wouldn't whip out his best "art" right away. not even vs sauske (one of his most hated people) He would not live To even make the dragon or C4.


Konan

She took off his arm because of the type of his ability.Tobi had to absorb , which requires taking the opponent super close to your body. Ooniki has no need for this. He is faster then she is, by far. So he could outrun clones if he wanted to. Jinton simply obliterates the clones. Plus, he knows fire technique's and paper is not too good vs fire



Sasori

To kidnap somebody you would need to immobilize them enough to take them. A fight had to ensue. Even if they didn't fight, i still pick danzo as the stronger Kage, and as such should be in his place. But you are right it just says he was "kidnapped" so it's possible he poisoned, and grabbed him and ran.



Gaara
It's true that he was able to hit Mei + group, and Ooniki + gorup, but the fact that Gaara uses sand (which still reacts without him moving) would instantly get rid of something on him. Also like i said before he always wears sand armor, so Zetsu would be grabbing the chakara he poured into his sand (before hand) so no real loss of chakara is had, unless he replenishes the shield. In addition, how are they going to get to him when he's flying in the air?


P.S. Ty for rep+, you deserve it as well. Your last few threads have been very well laid out and they even have pictures!

Lol believe me Konan is much faster and i think that with the sheer nuimber of explosive clones they would be able to come from different directions and detonate on Onoki while he uses Jinton on the others.

Btw Konan can use a restraining technique so once one of them has him, they'll be able to explode continuously on him instantly.


True but Deidara can use the Hiding in the Mole Technique (or whatever its called xd) to plant these mines himself)


How come gaara's sand didn't protect him at the Five Kage summit xd ?

I think that Zetsu's sneak attack doesn't count as harming him so its allowed to go through e.g. its just planting a few spores not directly attacking him

 

[goodro88]

Yep

 

[DeViliShChild]

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Lol believe me Konan is much faster and i think that with the sheer nuimber of explosive clones they would be able to come from different directions and detonate on Onoki while he uses Jinton on the others.

Btw Konan can use a restraining technique so once one of them has him, they'll be able to explode continuously on him instantly.


True but Deidara can use the Hiding in the Mole Technique (or whatever its called xd) to plant these mines himself)


How come gaara's sand didn't protect him at the Five Kage summit xd ?

I think that Zetsu's sneak attack doesn't count as harming him so its allowed to go through e.g. its just planting a few spores not directly attacking him

She may be fast but ooniki can be weighted less and no matter what is faster 100% he also uses earth techs with are Great at blocking explosions.

Deidara cannot uses that, tobi can because of his S/t and w.o shown in manga I can't believe he is able to use that.

Gaara was attacking sasuke he wasn't in room and was never attacked by zetsu.

 

[xodzeh]

Your thread is made up from random match-ups. So basically its a waste. But appreciate your effort tho. As you said yourself, a-b-c logic dont work. But if you're gonna say that akatsuki beats every kage, you need to set them up against every kage that's been alive. By that, you fail.

There are many kages that's been alive, which can beat several of the akatsuki members.

 

[Stark]

I don't know why it doesn't let me give you rep, but excellent job. You have come a long way, you have my respect xd

 

[~Uzumaki~]

I once again disagree with your thread. The Hokages and Mu, 2nd Mizukage, Third Raikage and the rest. Gaara can beat Hidan and Zetsu as well as Kakuzu by burying his hearts then crushing them or sealing them.
Onoki's dust release will obliterate Sasori and his collection, he can also harden Magnet Release structures to make them immovable with his added weight technique, block weapons with golems.
Second Mizukage will kill Kisame who has only a 2/5 in genjutsu by simply casting his battlefield wide genjutsu along with his clam on him and surprise attacking him with a Water Gun to the head. Since its instant death, Samehada can't heal him. Also, sensors can sense while caught in the illusion as there were many sensors in Gaara's division but none could find the Mizukage so even merging with Samehada will not make him able to sense the Mizukage.
Third Raikage will kill Deidara by ending him with his Hell Stab in an instant as scores of ninja couldn't react in time to do anything before they were all slaughtered, Deidara's birds take time to prepare as his hands must first chew clay and spit it out then he must form a hand seal to enlarge it, get on the bird then move, the Raikage will obliterate him before this happens and if by some miracle he makes a bird, the Raikage can attack with long range black lightning techniques.
Itachi will be taken out by Gaara who will have Onoki lighten his sand so that he can pull Itachi out of Susanoo and crush him, also Gaara can shield Totsuka as his sand could block multiple sword attacks from Madara's Susanoos. His sand already proved fast enough to block Amaterasu and he has sensor sand which he can use to know Itachi's location no matter what, making tricks impossible. And he can fight from his sphere of sand which will prevent all chances of eye contact or genjutsu.

Konan will be oiled by Mizukage then sealed by Gaara....

Pain would be quite difficult but also not much of a problem...all his summons(including Gedo Mazo) will be countered by Onoki's weighted rock technique permanently immobilising them all then they can be obliterated by Dust Release. Gaara's sand and Onoki's golem will block Asura's missiles, Gaara's sand will also be helpful against Shinra Tensei and Bansho Ten'n, his paths will be swiftly slaughtered by the Second Mizukage who will use his battle wide genjutsu to make them all unable to see him then blow them up with his special exploding clone while they are distracted by the other Kages. Pain, like the thousands of ninja who faced this Mizukage will be unable to escape the genjutsu.
If he performs Chibaku Tensei then Gaara will simply wrap the sphere in sand before it gets too big and seal it. Or Minato can teleport the sphere to another location before it gets too big as he teleported Kurama out of Konoha. The Second Hokage can support with Water Release techniques and revive any Kage who dies in the battle with the Edo Tensei so that they can continue to fight. they are basically invincible in this battle. Tsunade can heal any wounded and work as a distraction to create openings...for example charging at Hidan head on to give Gaara the chance to catch him with sand. She can also distribut chakra to tired combatants through Katsuyu and distribute information between combatants like for example, Onoki can tell a Katsuyu clone the weakness to Deidara's jutsu making it easier to beat him and can tell whoever's fighting Itachi to avoid eye contact. Katsuyu could also act as a possible genjutsu breaker since she can flow chakra into an individual.
Minato will mark every Kage so that when Tobi tries to warp them, he can instantly teleport to then and kill him since to warp an individual, Tobi has to turn solid. Tobi can help to save a few Akatsuki members in danger however he still has to turn solid for this putting him at risk.The Second Mizukage's genjutsu will make Tobi unable to detect him and then he'll be surprise attacked by the Mizukage. If thousands of ninja couldn't escape or even have an idea how to combat it without the Mizukage telling them first, then why should Tobi be different? The Sharingan can't break EVERY illusion as seen with Itachi's recent fight with Kabuto.
The Third Hokage can use his shadow clones as distactions to create openings for others to strike...for example if he has a clone perform his Shadow Clone Shuriken technique on a path of Pan, distracting it for Tsunade to punch the living daylights out of it or for Muu/Onoki to Dust Release it to oblivion or so that it won't notice Muu invisibly sneaking up behind him. The Fifth Mizukage can help Gaara combat Kakuzu's fire techniques by combining her water with his sand for better defense and offense. She can use the Hidden Mist technique to momentarily blind the Six Paths of Pain so that they can be killed by someone(an invisible Muu who would be able to sense them in the mist or Gaara who can crush some of them with sand or Third Raikage who can quickly slaughter most with his nearly undodgeable Hell Stab)