Naruto + "50%" Kurama's TBB >>> "100%" Kurama's TBB

[TheSages456]

But maybe Bijus are using only their Yang power in order to create Bijudamas. Therefore Minato sealed away the Yin power and gave Kurama next to Naruto with the believe that he could use his Yang power sometime.

I mean Kuramas power is already insane, his power is comparable is to several others, like his Bijudama could mess with those of 5 others. I don't believe that Kurama was even stronger when he was using his Yin power as well. Yeah he was bigger and thus his physical strength was higher, but do you consider how strong Kurama would be in the other case?

its extremely unlikely that bijuus only use yang power to use bijuu damas. if kurama still had his yin chakra then he would be able to put more chakra into his techniques.

 

[TheSages456]

if the circle is the amount of chakra kurama has, and the dark/yin is permenantly sealed away, does it cease being a circle? or does the yang compensate the difference, i think the removal of the dark of the circle/sealing of the yin does not make the space where the yin resided unusable, nor does it mean that kurama's capacity to hold chakra was halved, it just means the entirety of kuramas ying chakra was sealed away and that had an immediate affect on his appearance since hes composed of chakra , just like oro regained some use of his arms, its entirely plausible that kurama would be able to make use of the void left by his yin chakra

no the yang would stay the same and remain unaffected. unless its sealed if chakra is taken from the yang then the chakra inside that half circle would regnerate. why do you think when people talk about kurama, they put so much emphasis on how half his chakra was sealed.

 

[Prince Charles]

IMO i think yang is the original and yin is the twin of yang with opposite personalities

when kurama got his yin taken away he's dark side the dark kurama was sealed in the death god basically their are 2 kuramas in existence 1 is in the death god and 1 is in this world

basically like that one chapter with naruto yin was the bad naruto yang was the good one

theirs basically 2 copies of every single living person in naruto, so when kurama got his yin taken away 1 copy of himself erased from existence leaving only the original copy

idk lol...

 

[Strict]

its extremely unlikely that bijuus only use yang power to use bijuu damas. if kurama still had his yin chakra then he would be able to put more chakra into his techniques.

But Kurama is using the same bijudamas as the others and as we know the condition is to combine a certain amount of white and black chakra particles, so it is coming from the yang, or ying only, the second energy isn't even needed. Kurama would be way too strong in the other case, though one energy (Yin or Yang, don't remember) was sealed away, he is creating a Bijudama which is 10 times huger then himself, no way the Yang power which was sealed away would boost his powers. This would be too much.

 

[Retsu]

one thing that killz me is ppl say 50% as if we all know for a fact the fox never recovered from having a portion of its chakra split by Minato, Narurama fired a TBB at the combined effort of 5 other bijuu's, I'd say just the simple fact that it even did anything points out that Kurama is well past 50% capacity, but it irks me when ppl try and convince you that the fox is in anyway handicapped

 

[TheSages456]

But Kurama is using the same bijudamas as the others and as we know the condition is to combine a certain amount of white and black chakra particles, so it is coming from the yang, or ying only, the second energy isn't even needed. Kurama would be way too strong in the other case, though one energy (Yin or Yang, don't remember) was sealed away, he is creating a Bijudama which is 10 times huger then himself, no way the Yang power which was sealed away would boost his powers. This would be too much.

yes you need to combine a certain amount of black and white particles to make a bijuu dama but you can put as much chakra as you want into it as long as you can keep the balance of white and black particles i think. more chakra=more chakra to put into a bijuu dama.

 

[ANBU Kakashi23]

no the yang would stay the same and remain unaffected. unless its sealed if chakra is taken from the yang then the chakra inside that half circle would regnerate. why do you think when people talk about kurama, they put so much emphasis on how half his chakra was sealed.

@bold plot device :shrug: xd


seriously speaking what occurred with kurama was unprecedented, a bijuu having half its chakra sealed away permanently is something people will tend to remember and theres no reference for how a bijuu reacts when it loses a specific part of its chakra but if it was as black and white as you say then kurama would have immediately lost his physical form due to his lack of yin

 

[Strict]

yes you need to combine a certain amount of black and white particles to make a bijuu dama but you can put as much chakra as you want into it as long as you can keep the balance of white and black particles i think. more chakra=more chakra to put into a bijuu dama.

But I don't think that a Biju can put his whole Chakra in one attack. I think there is a limit on the amount of Chakra you can put into one attack. Because every Biju has a huge amount of Chakra but isn't actually putting it in one attack. So even if Kurama had more Chakra, there would be a maximum of chakra he can put into one attack.

 

[TheSages456]

@bold plot device :shrug: xd


seriously speaking what occurred with kurama was unprecedented, a bijuu having half its chakra sealed away permanently is something people will tend to remember and theres no reference for how a bijuu reacts when it loses a specific part of its chakra but if it was as black and white as you say then kurama would have immediately lost his physical form due to his lack of yin

well kurama didnt lose its physical form. i think that if you make something using yin-yang then it loses its yin later on in life, then nothing would happen to it because its already there as a living thing. yin-yang is just a form of chakra after all and the tailed beasts living things. kurama is definitely only half as strong as he used to be though.

 

[TheSages456]

But I don't think that a Biju can put his whole Chakra in one attack. I think there is a limit on the amount of Chakra you can put into one attack. Because every Biju has a huge amount of Chakra but isn't actually putting it in one attack. So even if Kurama had more Chakra, there would be a maximum of chakra he can put into one attack.

well i think 100% kurama would be able to make a stronger bijuu dama than 50% kurama though.

 

[ANBU Kakashi23]

well kurama didnt lose its physical form. i think that if you make something using yin-yang then it loses its yin later on in life, then nothing would happen to it because its already there as a living thing. yin-yang is just a form of chakra after all and the tailed beasts living things. kurama is definitely only half as strong as he used to be though.

that would make sense for something like mokuton tree i guess, but not a chakra beast who technically doesnt have physical form, and is just using yin chakra to physically manifest itself

and the term living things needs to be used sparingly here, there more like conscious chakra which is why kurama got smaller when his yin was taken, and being conscious chakra their ying yang set up is inherently different than what an actual physical living being would have , so the knowledge we have on that yin yang interaction within a living being can only be applied so much towards a tailed beast

i honestly think kurama's current strength is debatable , but do each his own

 

[TobisPawn]

well i think 100% kurama would be able to make a stronger bijuu dama than 50% kurama though.

But then you have Naruto working together with Kurama here. And it was stated that Bijuus need Jinchuurikis to bring out their full potential.

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

But then you have Naruto working together with Kurama here. And it was stated that Bijuus need Jinchuurikis to bring out their full potential.

okay what happens when kyuubi gives his part of the chakra and naruto gives his sage mode chakra?
does that brings out the full potential :shrug:

 

[TobisPawn]

okay what happens when kyuubi gives his part of the chakra and naruto gives his sage mode chakra?
does that brings out the full potential :shrug:

That'd be crazy stuff. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[TheSages456]

But then you have Naruto working together with Kurama here. And it was stated that Bijuus need Jinchuurikis to bring out their full potential.

naruto can bring out the full potential of 50% kurama. 100% kurama is twice as big, twice as strong and has twice the amount of chakra as 50% kurama.

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

That'd be crazy stuff. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

crazy stuff as in?

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[TobisPawn]

naruto can bring out the full potential of 50% kurama. 100% kurama is twice as big, twice as strong and has twice the amount of chakra as 50% kurama.

But 100% Kurama can't use his full potential though, so he's not really using 100% of his chakra, whereas Naruto can have Kurama use 100% of that 50%. So it comes down to how much 100% Kurama can control its chakra

 

[Strict]

But 100% Kurama can't use his full potential though, so he's not really using 100% of his chakra, whereas Naruto can have Kurama use 100% of that 50%. So it comes down to how much 100% Kurama can control its chakra

But Naruto doesn't play any role here, a TBB is only the Bijus Chakra, Naruto does not have any influence in its strength.

 

[TheSages456]

But 100% Kurama can't use his full potential though, so he's not really using 100% of his chakra, whereas Naruto can have Kurama use 100% of that 50%. So it comes down to how much 100% Kurama can control its chakra

all tailed beasts have access to 100% of their chakra. its just the way they fight that changes when they have a jinchuriki. a perfect jinchuriki has a mind and can think tactically and such and a bijuu just has raw animal instincts.

 

[TobisPawn]

But Naruto doesn't play any role here, a TBB is only the Bijus Chakra, Naruto does not have any influence in its strength.

But if Kurama can't use his entire chakra then he wouldn't be able to form a bigger TBB, right?