Naruto + "50%" Kurama's TBB >>> "100%" Kurama's TBB

[TheSages456]

Wrong. Kurama(50%) and Kurama(100%) are equally powerful. The only difference between the two is the fact that he has more chakra(100%).

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[~Dream~]

I agree with you except Kurama 100% is stronger, you can't say Kurama + Bm Naruto is stronger than 100% from just a manga pic.

 

[Οdin]

Spoiler

wrong

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U_U This proves nothing.

 

[Strict]

Yes, 50% Kurama is stronger than 100% Kurama..

the Biju form is the Jinchurikis strongest form, the Bijudama of a Jinchuriki can't be stronger than the one of the Bijus. Naruto is using the Bijus Chakra in order to creat a Bijudama, where a certain number of black and white particles are necessary to create it. The Jinchurikis power doesn't have any influence to the Bijudama, it is only the Bijus power.

 

[TheSages456]

U_U This proves nothing.

kurama is half of what it was. bijuus are masses of chakra with a mind. take away their chakra and they get weaker.

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

Nice, I rarely see threads like these so +rep.

I agree with you. It was stated that a Bijuu with a host that can control is stronger than when the bijuu is alone. A Bijuu can't make clones and used them in battle but with a host like naruto, naruto will be able to use that power to make new jutsus or something.

 

[Οdin]

kurama is half of what it was. bijuus are masses of chakra with a mind. take away their chakra and they get weaker.

He didn't get weaker, he only lost half of his chakra. Do you have proof saying he got weaker?

 

[ANBU Kakashi23]

kurama is half of what it was. bijuus are masses of chakra with a mind. take away their chakra and they get weaker.

kurama's chakras regenerate, or he would have remained emaciated after naruto took that substantial amount of his chakra

 

[Bogard]

I don't agree with you since the power of the TBB depends on the chakra Kyubi uses. During the fight between Naruto and Kyubi inside Narutos body for example, Kyubi has shown to be able to cast 2types of TBB. The first one was far weaker than the last one he used before Naruto immobilised him.

Also on the pic you show where Minato is warping away the TBB, we can't really take that as an indication since a great part of the TBB was already warped in the space time barrier Minato

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And i think when you see this pic it's clearly bigger than normal TBB used by the other Tailed Beast against Kakashi and Gai.

But anyway +rep for the effort

 

[TheSages456]

He didn't get weaker, he only lost half of his chakra. Do you have proof saying he got weaker?

he is half as big as he used to be and only has half of his chakra. yup he got weaker.

kurama's chakras regenerate, or he would have remained emaciated after naruto took that substantial amount of his chakra

minato sealed away kuramas yin. thats why kurama is only half as strong as he used to be. naruto just took kuramas chakra.

 

[FloriGlori]

Simple, notional fail on your part.

It is absoulutely nowhere implied that the Bijuu Dama Kyuubi shot on Minato is its maximum. Inside Naruto's mind, Kurama was seen creating a huge Bijuu Dama without any help from Naruto. Apart from that a Bijuu Dama is exclusively made up of Bijuu Chakra, thus Naruto didn't have any influence on it.

Moreover it's clearly visible that Kyuubi's Bijuu Dama against Minato exceeds those of the other Bijuu by far, especially since the most part of it already disappeared inside Minato's Jikukan barrier.

 

[Οdin]

he is half as big as he used to be and only has half of his chakra. yup he got weaker.

*Sigh* He was able to create a full-power Bijuu Dama after Naruto took his power. He never got weaker.

 

[TobisPawn]

Overall a pretty decent, thorough analysis +rep. I will say I think your exact quantitative comparisons are bull shit, especially in the "difference in power section", but your conclusion seems sound, numbers aside.

LOL, thanks.

 

[TheSages456]

*Sigh* He was able to create a full-power Bijuu Dama after Naruto took his power. He never got weaker.

im talking about after minato sealed half of his chakra. yes he did get weaker but kurama is so strong that he can still make bijuu damas of that caliber even in his weakened state. 50% skinny kurama can make bijuu damas that is stronger than the other bijuus. it just shows how strong kurama is.

 

[ANBU Kakashi23]

he is half as big as he used to be and only has half of his chakra. yup he got weaker.



minato sealed away kuramas yin. thats why kurama is only half as strong as he used to be. naruto just took kuramas chakra.

my point is that when chakra is taken from kurama he has the ability to reconstitute it over time, given his yin was sealed im inclined to think he compensated the difference by regenerating his yang to fill the void, thats just what i think because since hes a chakra beast he wouldnt follow the same principles as if a physical being had their ying sealed

 

[TheSages456]

my point is that when chakra is taken from kurama he has the ability to reconstitute it over time, given his yin was sealed im inclined to think he compensated the difference by regenerating his yang to fill the void, thats just what i think because since hes a chakra beast he wouldnt follow the same principles as if a physical being had their ying sealed

as you can see, this is yin-yang

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minato entirely sealed the yin, which means that the dark side of that circle above is no longer there. kurama has 50% of his chakra which is entirely composed of yang. only half of the circle is there. if you take some chakra out of the half a cirle(the yang) then that will regenerate.

 

[Prince Charles]

he is half as big as he used to be and only has half of his chakra. yup he got weaker.



minato sealed away kuramas yin. thats why kurama is only half as strong as he used to be. naruto just took kuramas chakra.

cant rep right now i alredy reped you U_U

 

[TheSages456]

cant rep right now i alredy reped you U_U

lol its alright.

 

[Strict]

But maybe Bijus are using only their Yang power in order to create Bijudamas. Therefore Minato sealed away the Yin power and gave Kurama next to Naruto with the believe that he could use his Yang power sometime.

I mean Kuramas power is already insane, his power is comparable is to several others, like his Bijudama could mess with those of 5 others. I don't believe that Kurama was even stronger when he was using his Yin power as well. Yeah he was bigger and thus his physical strength was higher, but do you consider how strong Kurama would be in the other case?

 

[ANBU Kakashi23]

as you can see, this is yin-yang

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minato entirely sealed the yin, which means that the dark side of that circle above is no longer there. kurama has 50% of his chakra which is entirely composed of yang. only half of the circle is there. if you take some chakra out of the half a cirle(the yang) then that will regenerate.

if the circle is the amount of chakra kurama has, and the dark/yin is permenantly sealed away, does it cease being a circle? or does the yang compensate the difference, i think the removal of the dark of the circle/sealing of the yin does not make the space where the yin resided unusable, nor does it mean that kurama's capacity to hold chakra was halved, it just means the entirety of kuramas ying chakra was sealed away and that had an immediate affect on his appearance since hes composed of chakra , just like oro regained some use of his arms, its entirely plausible that kurama would be able to make use of the void left by his yin chakra