Naruto + "50%" Kurama's TBB >>> "100%" Kurama's TBB

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Note: For the sake of simplicity, I'll be calling Naruto + Kurama "Narurama" and "100%" Kurama "Kurama."
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Intro/Background
So I'll just be showing why Narurama's TBB is a lot better/stronger than Kurama's TBB. This will also show the tremendous increase in power Perfect Jinchuurikis get when compared to the Bijuu without a host, and it will also disprove the "Hashirama dealt with a stronger Kurama so he can beat Naruto even easier, lawl" argument. So keep reading if your interested to see the difference in TBBs (Bijuu Damas) of "Narurama" and the Kurama that Madara and Tobi used.​
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Difference in size

First off, let's look at Kurama's ("100%" Kurama without a host) TBB's size.

Here's its size in relation to Minato (top panel):
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As you can see, Minato's basically a small speck when compared to it, but he's still visible. Now let's look at the average Bijuu's (without a host) TBB's size in relation to Kakashi and Guy:
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When compared to Bijuu's 2-6's TBBs, Kakashi and Guy are around the same size as Minato when he's compared to "100%" Kurama's TBB. So "100%" Kurama's TBB has size equal to that of an average Bijuu's TBB.

Now let's look at Narurama's (Naruto + Kurama) TBB's size.​

Whilst Kurama's ("100%," without a host) TBB has size equal to that of an average Bijuu's, Narurama's TBB has size equal to that of a TBB put together by five Bijuus, as shown here (bottom panel):
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But wait! There's more! Narurama's TBB isn't just five times bigger than Kurama's TBB, though. Its visually obvious that the other Bijuus' combined TBB is bigger than just those five TBBs (that you saw earlier) put together. So Narurama's TBB is more than just five times bigger than Kurama's ("100%"). But some will argue that size isn't everything (and that's obviously true) so now I'll show ya'll that there's a tremendous power difference in their TBBs too.
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Difference in power​

Let's see how powerful Kurama's ("100%" Kurama that Tobi and Madara used) TBB is.

Look at the bottom right panel to see how powerful "100%" Kurama's TBB is:
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As you can see, Kurama's ("100%" and without a host) TBB has power to bust one mountain. That's no different than the TBBs of Bijuus 2-6 (left panels):
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So we can come to the conclusion that "100%" Kurama's TBB has power equal to that of the average Bijuu without a host. Its not stronger than the rest. The TBBs of the other Bijuus make similar sized explosions as "100%" Kurama's TBB.

Now let's see how powerful Narurama's TBB is.

This is the explosion created by Narurama's TBB colliding with the combined TBB of the other Bijuus (each is more than five times larger than "100%" Kurama's):
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Seeing that you want to get the power of Narurama's TBB alone, we can just halve the size of the explosion (correct me if I'm wrong). Yet the explosion would still be able to cover at least three mountains. Even if we can't just "divide" the explosion size to get Narurama's, its fair to say that Narurama's TBB is still >>> "100%" Kurama's, seeing that it matched five TBBs put together whereas "100%" Kurama's TBB only matches one of those individual TBBs.
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Conclusion
Its clear that Narurama's (Naruto + "50%" Kurama) TBB is a lot more powerful than "100%" Kurama's (no host; the one that Tobi and Madara used) TBB. Whether other Perfect Jinchuurikis getting similar power boosts is unknown, its fair to say that "50% Kurama + Naruto" (Narurama) has advantages over "100% Kurama" (no host). The TBB is one, and two others would be Naruto's ability to make clones within the cloak and use them however he needs and Narurama's ability to use its tails to grab things. So we can erase the "Hashirama beat 100% Kurama so he can beat 50% Kurama (Naruto) even easier lawl" argument. I'm not advocating my opinion on Naruto vs Hashirama, but I'm pointing out that that argument is flawed, seeing that Narurama's power (at least in TBBs) dwarfs "100%" Kurama's. Good day to you all.​
 

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no. naruto doesnt use his own power in bijuu mode. he uses kuramas chakra and kuramas power. kurama is half of what it used to be. 100% kurama>50% kurama. 100% kuramas tbb will be stronger because it has more power.
 

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Interesting theory and yes thanks to naruto's huge chakra besides Kurama's so it makes sense
 

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Overall a pretty decent, thorough analysis +rep. I will say I think your exact quantitative comparisons are bull shit, especially in the "difference in power section", but your conclusion seems sound, numbers aside.
 

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You forgot the fact that Kurama was able to make a full-power Bijuu Dama during his fight with Naruto.
 

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Hmm, i'd say Kurama still has more power (that's going by the premise that BM Naruto still only has 50% of its power). In your analysis, i'd say Minato looked alot smaller than Guy and Kakashi in comparison to the Bijuu Dama. So I don't think Kurama's TBB = a Bijuu's TBB. If Kurama was to put his heart and soul into a Bijuu Dama then it would be pretty damn powerful. A Perfect Jinchuuriki > Bijuu due to battle smarts, genjutsu etc. Two minds are better than one, and perfect Jinchuurikis don't rely on animal like instincts, unlike the Bijuu. So in that sense, I would say BM Naruto > Kurama. But not due to raw power, rather speed, intelligence etc.
 

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+ REP......Good Analysis, I hope people understand your point, but I m with the side supporting Hashi against Naruto.... :D
 

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no. naruto doesnt use his own power in bijuu mode. he uses kuramas chakra and kuramas power. kurama is half of what it used to be. 100% kurama>50% kurama. 100% kuramas tbb will be stronger because it has more power.

Doesn't naruto and kuramas chakra fuse?
 

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Overall a pretty decent, thorough analysis +rep. I will say I think your exact quantitative comparisons are bull shit, especially in the "difference in power section", but your conclusion seems sound, numbers aside.

OWNED. LOL, saaaaaapanda, go easy on him next time, eh?
 

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Doesn't naruto and kuramas chakra fuse?
yes but even so, 50% kuramas chakra+narutos chakra isnt anywhere near 100% kuramas. you really think that narutos chakra reserves even compare to kuramas?
 

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You forgot the part that the bijuu compresses the ball. This is nothing to suggest BM Naruto bijjuu dama < Kyuubis.

Bigger is not always better////

At least not in Naruto.
 

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no. naruto doesnt use his own power in bijuu mode. he uses kuramas chakra and kuramas power. kurama is half of what it used to be. 100% kurama>50% kurama. 100% kuramas tbb will be stronger because it has more power.

Wrong. Kurama(50%) and Kurama(100%) are equally powerful. The only difference between the two is the fact that he has more chakra(100%).
 
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