Shark Mode Kisame renders Amaterasu useless?

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

I'm not sure If theirs a thread using this argument already but anyway.....

Kisame in his shark mode can absorb chakara through contact, in this case if Amaterasu were to make contact with him it would be absorbed. I'm also guessing that in this mode it can absorb amaterasu no problem because it should have similar properties to Samehada. Which absorbed Bee's v2 mode to v1 mode. Which is more than enough proof to show he can absorb Amaterasu no probz..........

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Read middle scan for proof of this ability in shark mode.

Also, if Kisame is in shark mode he usually uses this technique in conjunction with it.....

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Which as most of us know creates that OP water dome which follows Kisame everywhere.

Agree or Disagree?

 

[Kazekage35]

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[saaaaaadpanda]

I believe you are incorrect.
1. Samehada can absorb chakra, not jutsu. We're not talking about the preta path.
2. Amaterasu are flames that can't be extinguished, so water's not going to have an effect...

 

[AWSUM SID]

i believe you are incorrect.
1. Samehada can absorb chakra, not jutsu. We're not talking about the preta path.
2. Amaterasu are flames that can't be extinguished, so water's not going to have an effect...

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[Kazekage35]

I believe you are incorrect.
1. Samehada can absorb chakra, not jutsu. We're not talking about the preta path.
2. Amaterasu are flames that can't be extinguished, so water's not going to have an effect...

If the jutsu uses Chakra then it can absorb it. Remember when Kisame was fighting Gai he wasn't afraid because he was going to absorb Hirudora, thinking it was ninjutsu. Kisame also states all ninjutsu against him is useless. So for example, if he hit naruto's Rasengan, it would absorb it since it is compacted chakra

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

I believe you are incorrect.
1. Samehada can absorb chakra, not jutsu. We're not talking about the preta path.
2. Amaterasu are flames that can't be extinguished, so water's not going to have an effect...

Im going to counter this with .....

If the jutsu uses Chakra then it can absorb it. Remember when Kisame was fighting Gai he wasn't afraid because he was going to absorb Hirudora, thinking it was ninjutsu. Kisame also states all ninjutsu against him is useless. So for example, if he hit naruto's Rasengan, it would absorb it since it is compacted chakra

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Regardless if it only absorbs chakara, chakara is basically the foundation of ninjutsu. So no chakara = no jutsu.

 

[Cerox0]

I believe you are incorrect.
1. Samehada can absorb chakra, not jutsu. We're not talking about the preta path.
2. Amaterasu are flames that can't be extinguished, so water's not going to have an effect...

this

 

[saaaaaadpanda]

If the jutsu uses Chakra then it can absorb it. Remember when Kisame was fighting Gai he wasn't afraid because he was going to absorb Hirudora, thinking it was ninjutsu. Kisame also states all ninjutsu against him is useless. So for example, if he hit naruto's Rasengan, it would absorb it since it is compacted chakra

He thought Hirudora was a big mass of chakra. Some jutsu are masses of chakra (rasengan, susano'o, etc), while others (amaterasu, chidori, etc) are not because they have transformed the chakra into another form. Next you'll tell me Samehada can absorb suiton or shadow clones.

 

[Kazekage35]

He thought Hirudora was a big mass of chakra. Some jutsu are masses of chakra (rasengan, susano'o, etc), while others (amaterasu, chidori, etc) are not because they have transformed the chakra into another form. Next you'll tell me Samehada can absorb suiton or shadow clones.

I never said that, I used Rasengan as my only example, which you also used sooo...

 

[saaaaaadpanda]

I never said that, I used Rasengan as my only example, which you also used sooo...

You're clearly missing the point of my argument.

 

[rikankhaos]

What kind of mombo jumbo is this? It can absorb chakra your correct on that one. But like it was previously stated ameratsu can not be extinguished. Only person that can do so would be the user itself. The genkai does need chakra in order to be released but afterwards it would become a chakraless none existing element. In which case would prove your crazy theory wrong.

 

[Invsblphntm]

I don't give a **** about Shark Mode Kisame, it won't work.

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Preta Path will absorb Amaterasu.

 

[MutantWhale]

no it cant, it may absorb chakra from jutsus but amaterasu isnt normal

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

He thought Hirudora was a big mass of chakra. Some jutsu are masses of chakra (rasengan, susano'o, etc), while others (amaterasu, chidori, etc) are not because they have transformed the chakra into another form. Next you'll tell me Samehada can absorb suiton or shadow clones.

NOO jutsu's are just massess of chakara, if it were just masses of chakara then it would look something like this.....

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Any jutsu is a manefestation of the user chakara into some kind of physical form. Ninjutsu mainly, also I presume Amaterasu is fueled by chakara so no chakara no Amaterasu.

What kind of mombo jumbo is this? It can absorb chakra your correct on that one. But like it was previously stated ameratsu can not be extinguished. Only person that can do so would be the user itself. The genkai does need chakra in order to be released but afterwards it would become a chakraless none existing element. In which case would prove your crazy theory wrong.

Actually it probably could be extinguished by certain counters, it's just that we haven't had a scenario to prove our arguments. Also Amaterasu is not inextinguishable it stops burning after 1 week.

Also you claim my theory "crazy", when you presumed it was a chakaraless non existing element. Although I might agree with this assumption it's only an assumption. Nevertheless both claims are speculation and none can really be called crazy until proven other wise.

 

[rikankhaos]

NOO jutsu's are just massess of chakara, if it were just masses of chakara then it would look something like this.....

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Any jutsu is a manefestation of the user chakara into some kind of physical form. Ninjutsu mainly, also I presume Amaterasu is fueled by chakara so no chakara no Amaterasu.

So lets pretend I have this magic lighter. This magic lighter cannot be extinguised by water. So with this magic I light up a non existing forrest and the flames take over this "forrest". Now since the flames are up and going...would this mean that the magical lighter fluid is still being used even though I let go of the switch that releases the fluid within the lighter?

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

So lets pretend I have this magic lighter. This magic lighter cannot be extinguised by water. So with this magic I light up a non existing forrest and the flames take over this "forrest". Now since the flames are up and going...would this mean that the magical lighter fluid is still being used even though I let go of the switch that releases the fluid within the lighter?

Using normal logic in this case has draw backs, like the properties of fuel the etc.... however in this scenario the flame should still be running. But to counter this is like saying if I had a "magic extinguisher" lol you know what i'm saying.

PS: In this logic you are substituting this Amaterasu for this magic lighter. So this means I could substitute Samehada in for a "magic exstinguisher".

 

[GoblinGalore]

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[FlyingThunderGodHax]

Who is that chick dancing in you sig ?

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[rikankhaos]

Using normal logic in this case has draw backs, like the properties of fuel the etc.... however in this scenario the flame should still be running. But to counter this is like saying if I had a "magic extinguisher" lol you know what i'm saying.

Thats why I stated that the fire could not be extinguished. But also like you had stated ameratsu does become a property. As far as it been shown or told by kishi(and yes I do understand that he does do a lot of oxymorons). Ameratsu after being released has no downfall to the user. Only reason to use chakra on ameratsu would be to either control where you would want it to go or to extinguish it. So with this said as far as I understand it would be a non chakra based jutsu once released upon the fighting plain.

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

Thats why I stated that the fire could not be extinguished. But also like you had stated ameratsu does become a property. As far as it been shown or told by kishi(and yes I do understand that he does do a lot of oxymorons). Ameratsu after being released has no downfall to the user. Only reason to use chakra on ameratsu would be to either control where you would want it to go or to extinguish it. So with this said as far as I understand it would be a non chakra based jutsu once released upon the fighting plain.

Well if it was a non chakara based jutsu it wouldn't be able to be manipulated by Sasuke hence Blaze Release. Because if it didn't have any chakara properties Sasuke wouldn't be able to manipulate it therefore implying it is not a non chakara based jutsu. If it didn't have any chakara properties I believe Sasuke would not be able to manipulate it.