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What's the story about the second hokage, and why is he the least mentioned of all the hokages? If im not mistaken, wasnt he "ambushed" and killed? and wasnt he around with hishrama? (I think there's more to that guy than we know.
I have never trusted the 2nd hokage as we all know he created edo jutsu but we dont know why are who he wanted to bring back
 

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I have never trusted the 2nd hokage as we all know he created edo jutsu but we dont know why are who he wanted to bring back
Tobi could be Nidaime ( The second Hokage) I remeber several shinobi claiming that this was the Second hokage's justu. There is alot we dont know of him and I think he never died. What if he never died when he sacrificed himself so that the others may escape. He might have bumped into black zetsu and fued together. (all speculation) Which could explain why we think tobi is a white zetsu clone since they are based of the first hokage's dna. This is probably way off, but so are many tobi theories, lol there are 100's of them but only one can be right.
 

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Im guess he wanted to try an stop death someway or mostly he try to bring back the So6p so thats why or hell he might be tobi
I feel like a genius for bringing this up! I wish I could make a thread so I can go deep into detail on this. In the episode where the gold and silver brothers fight the said those 2 attacked the second hokage, it gave me the impression that he died when they ambushed him. but if you think back a little, they also say he sacrificed himself so that his comrads could escape. Somethings fishy here...
 

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Remember way back in chapter 3, when Sasuke said he was going to restore his clan?
what if thats what he's planning to do with the scroll now?
When naruto asked him to stop being evil, he asked naruto if he could bring back his village and his family, then he would stop. What if he stops after he gets his family.
 
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I feel like a genius for bringing this up! I wish I could make a thread so I can go deep into detail on this. In the episode where the gold and silver brothers fight the said those 2 attacked the second hokage, it gave me the impression that he died when they ambushed him. but if you think back a little, they also say he sacrificed himself so that his comrads could escape. Somethings fishy here...
They talk alot of the other kages but not the Second it seems he might be the last one left to learn about him as is to me tobi is either the Second or Kagami
 

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Tobi could be Nidaime ( The second Hokage) I remeber several shinobi claiming that this was the Second hokage's justu. There is alot we dont know of him and I think he never died. What if he never died when he sacrificed himself so that the others may escape. He might have bumped into black zetsu and fued together. (all speculation) Which could explain why we think tobi is a white zetsu clone since they are based of the first hokage's dna. This is probably way off, but so are many tobi theories, lol there are 100's of them but only one can be right.
ok, assuming one moment, ur right...then explain:
why could orochimaru edo-summon the 2nd hokage while fighting the 3rd hokage? remember that? so tobi=tobirama not true.
unless kishi pulls off some plot no jutsu again ;-)
 
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ok, assuming one moment, ur right...then explain:
why could orochimaru edo-summon the 2nd hokage while fighting the 3rd hokage? remember that? so tobi=tobirama not true.
unless kishi pulls off some plot no jutsu again ;-)
Well white zetsu can make almost perfect copies which could be 2nd since we dont kno how long one can live who knos but i choose kagami cuz right timeframe
 

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ok, assuming one moment, ur right...then explain:
why could orochimaru edo-summon the 2nd hokage while fighting the 3rd hokage? remember that? so tobi=tobirama not true.
unless kishi pulls off some plot no jutsu again ;-)
Great point! But as always, many of our ideas have holes in them. If the white zetsu is the first hokages dna, then why couldnt the black zetsu be the second hokages? (another wild theory of mine) They are brothers- hishrama and tobirama. And have you noticed how the first's dna makes white zetsu stronger but not black zetsu. But hey There could be holes here too.
 

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I Think... inside that scroll is the technique to 'void' reaper death seal... so that sasuke be able to ask the previous hokages about the uchihas... and the strengths and weaknesses of madara.... In the previous chapter, sasuke was referring to madara... not shisui...
The scroll isn't a technique. It's information. It's likely information on where the sage/sons of the So6P are buried and how to contact them in the after life. We can pretty much establish that Orochimaru knows how to bridge the link between the living world and the spirit world.

'The one who knows everything' is obviously the So6P, though I can understand what Sasuke would want to also meet the sons: to understand where the curse of hatred came from.

If that statement is right, could it be possible that Naruto got the other half of the nine tails witch was sealed too now that the nine tails is friendly with Naruto he would probably love to have his full strength back.

We shall see, it's a possibility like any other possibilities.
The 9 tails is already fully powered. Even though a portion of it was sealed into Naruto at birth, it's power grew the entire time Naruto was alive, growing to full power at some point, which was why the seal kept weakening.

If oro and tobi know each other then it supports my theory on tobi being Izuna, in Obitos body.
1. Tobi is the one who started Akatsuki. Orochimaru was in Akatsuki as an original member. Of course they knew each other.

2. Obito's body was crushed to death by falling rocks. People need to understand that fact and let go of the 'Tobi=Obito' theories.

3. Tobi's body is made up of similar stuff to Zetsu. That's how he is able to grow limbs back and live for so long. I have no doubt that Tobi is Izuna, and some technique was used to transplant his soul into some body that Orochimaru helped make using Hashirama's DNA.
 

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Orochimaru is back! To tell the truth it's kinda sad seeing Kabuto being left behind, at first I did'nt like him too much for stealing Orochimaru's persona but I have grown to feel for him and his struggle to know who he is. At least he was not killed, and I have a feeling he will make his own comeback. I also feel like Orochimaru was brought back way to easily, I have way too many questions about this scroll and the person Sasuke is wanting to meet with. I believe this scroll has something to do with either the edo tensei, the uchiha clan or the reaper death seal. Lastly I want to know how long the hawk team will stick together and if Karin will show up, Sasuke does'nt seem to have much interest in them anymore
 

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I feel like a genius for bringing this up! I wish I could make a thread so I can go deep into detail on this. In the episode where the gold and silver brothers fight the said those 2 attacked the second hokage, it gave me the impression that he died when they ambushed him. but if you think back a little, they also say he sacrificed himself so that his comrads could escape. Somethings fishy here...
It said they put him on the brink of death..Not that they killed him.
 

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I understand but sealing the original soul doesnt seal one that is copy, the copy is his own but like what Oro pulled maybe he knos how to invoid the seal or slip thru, an who iis setsuna uchiha?
here's a link



I tried to post it in my comment, but I wasnt allowed since im new her. it said i needed 10 post to do it. and i was only at 9 at that point.
 
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