Common Misconception: People Sealed Can Be Unsealed - Wrong! Oro = Not An Exception!

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Ok so around the base, i've been seeing all of these different theories for 'them', the people who are mentioned / can be brought back from the scroll...and i am sick of people assuming it's going to be the Hokage's...

PEOPLE WHO ARE SEALED CANNOT BE UNSEALED​

The main point of this is this ^...after someone's soul has been sealed it CANNOT be resummoned or unsealed!

There are some very important things to note in relevance to this point:

1. Orochimaru is NOT an exception to this rule... If we pay close attention to Orochimaru's resummoning we will notice a couple of things...

Firstly, Orochimaru's main body was sealed by Itachi using the Totsuka Blade, that portion of him WAS SEALED...then we must also understand that Orochimaru can regenerate from even a small portion of his soul - part of his ability of taking other people's souls...

That is why Orochimaru could come back, he was released from his cursed mark on Anko...which if we think about is the whole point for Anko in the first place. This release is from Oro's curse mark...the other portion of his soul is still sealed by Totsuka Blade... he didn't unseal his soul, there was just a part of him still unsealed... Also: no other Shinobi has ever discovered the ability of curse marks - and implementation of you soul into another person: Thats why Orochimaru is so revered!

2. The whole plot of Naruto so far has served to pull the amount of unsealed soul's down to narrow who it could be...that's why every dead Hokage has been sealed so far...and a bunch of other extremely powerful Shinobi have been summoned by Kabuto and then sealed...

You cannot unseal a soul that has been sealed...the people that the scroll reference will not be the Hokage's

3. If you need even more proof, or think that this scroll may change things...then Listen To This:

If Orochimaru knew the secret to summoning a soul that had already been sealed - why wouldn't he have used the ability himself to retrieve his arms...do you think its a co-incidence that his arms were sealed in the same way as every past Hokage? - These souls within the RDS cannot be resummoned or unsealed or otherwise Oro would have done it for himself...
If you think he knew how but couldn't do it...then why couldn't he do it...he had kabuto who seemed powerful enough to help him...and he sought out Tsunade for healing and thought his resurrection jutsu (white snake) would heal him - which it didn't completely.

In Summary:

Souls that are sealed cannot come back:

1. Oro is not an exception
2. The role of Edo so far has also been to narrow down numbers for revival
3. The scroll will not change this fact


Hope this clears this up for so many people who think that the Kage's or another sealed soul will come back!
 
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+rep for effort. Kishi might ignore this fact though.
^ That. I agree that Oro should not be able to unseal sealed people but Kishi has a knack for giving people to many OP abilities. That scroll could be the fruition to all Oros work over the years and it just happens to be unsealing souls lol. But ya Oro shouldn't be an exception.
 

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Yeah i though everyone knew this.Its not like Oro has crawled out of Totuska or something its just because his essence was inside Anko and im guessing that includes his soul or whatever makes him him
 

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Yh but who said the hokages are being revived sasuke said he wants to talk to people not revive. And oro replied why do you want to "talk with them" it could be away to connect to the other world or something crazy
 
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Yeah i though everyone knew this.Its not like Oro has crawled out of Totuska or something its just because his essence was inside Anko and im guessing that includes his soul or whatever makes him him
some people just arent getting it, kage's and sealed people cant be brought back...

Yh but who said the hokages are being revived sasuke said he wants to talk to people not revive. And oro replied why do you want to "talk with them" it could be away to connect to the other world or something crazy
so what, a small portion of their souls have been slowly leaking from RDS? i dont think so :/ to talk to them i reckon he'd need to revive them...+ if theyre soul is sealed, its inaccessible
 

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O.K Kishi now please tell us who Tobi is while you are here.

Don't get me wrong, I do agree with you, it's just Kishi just keeps pulling sh*t out of thin air and I wouldn't be too surprised if he unsealed the Hokages.

Nearly everyone (and I know there were some exceptions) would have agreed that Oro would not be back and look what happened.
 

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so what, a small portion of their souls have been slowly leaking from RDS? i dont think so :/ to talk to them i reckon he'd need to revive them...+ if theyre soul is sealed, its inaccessible
Dude just open your mind a bit more a realise kishi can do whatever he wants. So many things have been said to be this and that by characters before and have been proven wrong becuase kishi writes something to disprove it. Just open your mind and stop saying no this can't happen that can't happen. All kishi has to do is give an explanation and he can do anything
 

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Dude just open your mind a bit more a realise kishi can do whatever he wants. So many things have been said to be this and that by characters before and have been proven wrong becuase kishi writes something to disprove it. Just open your mind and stop saying no this can't happen that can't happen. All kishi has to do is give an explanation and he can do anything
yeah thats true...but that doesn't make me wrong, it means im right, but kishi as the author can change it...
but without anymore cursed marks from any other chars - and without knowing in depth of other hokage's abilities - its not 'logical' to believe that he could change everything for this...

and im happy oro is back :) it makes sense, was obviously planned from the start (reason why anko is in series at all) <3 awesome hesback
 

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If they are sealed by DRS, they can not unsealed otherwise they can unsealed.(what we saw from manga).
Another thing, yes simply orochimaru is Voldemort you need to remove/destroy all curse marks first if you want to kill him permanantly.
 
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