Logic, Orochimaru isnt going down that easy. Man Naruto is getting real good right now. I hope Orochimaru does something insane. He kind of dissapointed me when he said he didnt want to join the war. But hes Orochimaru so he has somethin up his sleeve.
[Predictions] Naruto Manga 593 Discussion and 594 Predictions
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KnowledgeGod
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Is Orochimaru really alive? It's impossible it don't make sense, his spirit was traped isn't that his soul? It's no way this is happening this must be a genjustu I'm under lol logic!
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KnowledgeGod
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Let's see how the haters talk no justu their way out of this one lol Orochimaru will intervene at some point....logic!
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sasukexx13
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when sasuke handed the scroll to oro..........oro responded why u want to meet them.....so how he knows that sasuke wanted to MEET "THEM"..
there r two possibilities....
1)THEM are some unknown persons......(UNKNOWN TO US)
that oro knows(AS HE HAS WRITTEN THAT SCROLL)...and so does now sasuke....as he read it.....(THIS CASE IS UNLIKELY IMO)
2)THEM are sasuke's parents.....
reasons::sasuke remebered his parents in the flashback....as he speaking to oro how he wanted to know the truth....
while leaving with oro.....oro told him that...they are going to a place very wellknown to sasuke.....which MAY BE THE UCHIHA HIDEOUT....and sasuke and oro r going there to meet with his parents.....
the scroll MAY contain a JUTSU which may bring back dead LIKE edo tensai...
OR "a time travel jutsu may be".....
i think suigetsu got excited over THE JUTSU WRITTEN IN THE SCROLL on the other hand sasuke...saw something extra....something related to THEM....and thats why he wnts to meet with THEM....
but the main problem is....In this THEM.....WHERE IS ..."THE PERSON WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING"...is he different than this THEM...or he is SASUKE'S FATHER...or someone else....i dunno...i may be wrong
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there r two possibilities....
1)THEM are some unknown persons......(UNKNOWN TO US)
that oro knows(AS HE HAS WRITTEN THAT SCROLL)...and so does now sasuke....as he read it.....(THIS CASE IS UNLIKELY IMO)
2)THEM are sasuke's parents.....
reasons::sasuke remebered his parents in the flashback....as he speaking to oro how he wanted to know the truth....
while leaving with oro.....oro told him that...they are going to a place very wellknown to sasuke.....which MAY BE THE UCHIHA HIDEOUT....and sasuke and oro r going there to meet with his parents.....
the scroll MAY contain a JUTSU which may bring back dead LIKE edo tensai...
OR "a time travel jutsu may be".....
i think suigetsu got excited over THE JUTSU WRITTEN IN THE SCROLL on the other hand sasuke...saw something extra....something related to THEM....and thats why he wnts to meet with THEM....
but the main problem is....In this THEM.....WHERE IS ..."THE PERSON WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING"...is he different than this THEM...or he is SASUKE'S FATHER...or someone else....i dunno...i may be wrong
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1. they are heading to Naka Shrine, secret meeting place of the Uchiha clan with tablet containing clan secrets, Madara secrets itc. ("the place you know well" - orochimaru).
2. about "why do you whant to met THEM?", first on my mind - Konoha Elders, why? they know a lot about Uchiha clan and were responsible for their massacre, second thought, sealed Hokages, probably 3rd and 1st. Sasuke wants Oro to use Edo Tensei and bring them back (scroll contains the way to break the seal of Shiki Fūjin) using Suigetsu and Jugo as livin corpses.
last one: there is a way to comunicate with dead people so Sasuka wants to speak with parents.
it looks like he wants to know more about Konoha and Uchiha history, will of fire etc. to understand Itachi.
2. about "why do you whant to met THEM?", first on my mind - Konoha Elders, why? they know a lot about Uchiha clan and were responsible for their massacre, second thought, sealed Hokages, probably 3rd and 1st. Sasuke wants Oro to use Edo Tensei and bring them back (scroll contains the way to break the seal of Shiki Fūjin) using Suigetsu and Jugo as livin corpses.
last one: there is a way to comunicate with dead people so Sasuka wants to speak with parents.
it looks like he wants to know more about Konoha and Uchiha history, will of fire etc. to understand Itachi.
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Great chapter. I knew Orochimaru was coming back, I just didn't expect it to be so soon. I'm sort of glad Kishi isn't wasting any time progressing the story, when he wasted (in my opinion) so many chapters talking about Kabuto's childhood and a few other things recently. Last chapter progressed a few other issues a little bit too (Madara is "done" playing, and wants to look for the kyuubi, Tobi is resurrecting an incomplete 10-tails). This chapter really pushes forward Sasuke's story arc a little bit and brought back Orochimaru, a fan favorite.
It opens the idea that Orochimaru had and was able to use senjutsu chakra. I thought Kabuto said that Orochimaru wasn't able to use Senjutsu, because he didn't have a body able to handle it. This does explain why Orochimaru's eyes had black areas around them and why they looked like a snake. Orochimaru's eyes look almost exactly like Kabuto's when he was in full "dragon" mode. I'm just wondering, did Kabuto not know that Orochimaru was able to use senjutsu, or is Orochimaru really not able to use it to the same level as Kabuto can now? Re-read chapter 579 where Kabuto says that Orochimaru didn't have a body able to handle senjutsu, and that Kabuto had surpassed Orochimaru in its use.
I also find it kind of interesting that Kabuto didn't try to resurrect Orochimaru. Kabuto clearly had all the necessary parts to do it. Did Kabuto not know it was possible? Maybe not. Sasuke knew that Orochimaru could come out of the cursed seal because he had seen it happen before, but Kabuto hadn't witnessed the battle between Sasuke and Itachi and might not have know. Kabuto did know a heck of a lot about the cursed seals, however. I wonder why he didn't figure it out.
In this chapter, Suigetsu does seem to make a distinction between "Orochimaru" and "The man who knows everything." In the last chapter, depending on which translation you read, it seemed like Sasuke was talking about them as the same person. Now, it doesn't look like that.
Sasuke seems to think that Orochimaru is the only person able to use the power in that scroll. However, Suigetsu seems to think it's something Sasuke could do now, or with some training.
When Sasuke shows Orochimaru the scroll, Orochimaru asks "What do you want to meet them for?" That suggests that the scroll has something to do with some other people. Maybe it's a way to summon people. Maybe it's a way to enter into a secret or hidden place where certain people live. Maybe it's yet another technique to summon the souls of the dead (or, transport a living person to the realm of the dead). Maybe the scroll contains the secret to Edo Tensei (which neither Sasuke nor Suigetsu knew, previously).
Orochimaru also seems much more...calm and less violent and angry than he had been in the past. He seems to accept Sasuke's character development, and even seems sympathetic towards it. He does claim to want to steal Sasuke's body still, but he doesn't seem as aggressive or selfish about it as he used to.
It's entirely possible that, after everything we've learned, that Orochimaru was not entirely a "bad guy" like he appeared. Danzo was kind of a jerk but he did jerky things because he wanted to protect the village. Itachi slaughtered an entire clan AND joined Akatsuki, but did those things to protect the village. It's possible that Orochimaru did the same kinds of things: He did the kinds of dark, evil medical research that was necessary but couldn't be done in the village. He helped Danzo. He opposed Akatsuki (after joining it and then quitting). His invasion of Konoha is the only real reason I would say this is not true, but if he used it as an excuse to put a more powerful hokage in place (Danzo or himself) there's some justification in it. Also, attacking the village would force them to defend themselves and made the village stronger, which in some way of thinking is a good thing.
This chapter was extremely interesting on a number of levels. I gave it 5 stars, and am looking forward to seeing how this story arc progresses.
It opens the idea that Orochimaru had and was able to use senjutsu chakra. I thought Kabuto said that Orochimaru wasn't able to use Senjutsu, because he didn't have a body able to handle it. This does explain why Orochimaru's eyes had black areas around them and why they looked like a snake. Orochimaru's eyes look almost exactly like Kabuto's when he was in full "dragon" mode. I'm just wondering, did Kabuto not know that Orochimaru was able to use senjutsu, or is Orochimaru really not able to use it to the same level as Kabuto can now? Re-read chapter 579 where Kabuto says that Orochimaru didn't have a body able to handle senjutsu, and that Kabuto had surpassed Orochimaru in its use.
I also find it kind of interesting that Kabuto didn't try to resurrect Orochimaru. Kabuto clearly had all the necessary parts to do it. Did Kabuto not know it was possible? Maybe not. Sasuke knew that Orochimaru could come out of the cursed seal because he had seen it happen before, but Kabuto hadn't witnessed the battle between Sasuke and Itachi and might not have know. Kabuto did know a heck of a lot about the cursed seals, however. I wonder why he didn't figure it out.
In this chapter, Suigetsu does seem to make a distinction between "Orochimaru" and "The man who knows everything." In the last chapter, depending on which translation you read, it seemed like Sasuke was talking about them as the same person. Now, it doesn't look like that.
Sasuke seems to think that Orochimaru is the only person able to use the power in that scroll. However, Suigetsu seems to think it's something Sasuke could do now, or with some training.
When Sasuke shows Orochimaru the scroll, Orochimaru asks "What do you want to meet them for?" That suggests that the scroll has something to do with some other people. Maybe it's a way to summon people. Maybe it's a way to enter into a secret or hidden place where certain people live. Maybe it's yet another technique to summon the souls of the dead (or, transport a living person to the realm of the dead). Maybe the scroll contains the secret to Edo Tensei (which neither Sasuke nor Suigetsu knew, previously).
Orochimaru also seems much more...calm and less violent and angry than he had been in the past. He seems to accept Sasuke's character development, and even seems sympathetic towards it. He does claim to want to steal Sasuke's body still, but he doesn't seem as aggressive or selfish about it as he used to.
It's entirely possible that, after everything we've learned, that Orochimaru was not entirely a "bad guy" like he appeared. Danzo was kind of a jerk but he did jerky things because he wanted to protect the village. Itachi slaughtered an entire clan AND joined Akatsuki, but did those things to protect the village. It's possible that Orochimaru did the same kinds of things: He did the kinds of dark, evil medical research that was necessary but couldn't be done in the village. He helped Danzo. He opposed Akatsuki (after joining it and then quitting). His invasion of Konoha is the only real reason I would say this is not true, but if he used it as an excuse to put a more powerful hokage in place (Danzo or himself) there's some justification in it. Also, attacking the village would force them to defend themselves and made the village stronger, which in some way of thinking is a good thing.
This chapter was extremely interesting on a number of levels. I gave it 5 stars, and am looking forward to seeing how this story arc progresses.
KnowledgeGod
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I also think Sasuke is going back home! I'm not sure if it's his parents he's going to meet though seem like really important individuals. If you ask me...logic!when sasuke handed the scroll to oro..........oro responded why u want to meet them.....so how he knows that sasuke wanted to MEET "THEM"..
there r two possibilities....
1)THEM are some unknown persons......(UNKNOWN TO US)
that oro knows(AS HE HAS WRITTEN THAT SCROLL)...and so does now sasuke....as he read it.....(THIS CASE IS UNLIKELY IMO)
2)THEM are sasuke's parents.....
reasons::sasuke remebered his parents in the flashback....as he speaking to oro how he wanted to know the truth....
while leaving with oro.....oro told him that...they are going to a place very wellknown to sasuke.....which MAY BE THE UCHIHA HIDEOUT....and sasuke and oro r going there to meet with his parents.....
the scroll MAY contain a JUTSU which may bring back dead LIKE edo tensai...
OR "a time travel jutsu may be".....
i think suigetsu got excited over THE JUTSU WRITTEN IN THE SCROLL on the other hand sasuke...saw something extra....something related to THEM....and thats why he wnts to meet with THEM....
but the main problem is....In this THEM.....WHERE IS ..."THE PERSON WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING"...is he different than this THEM...or he is SASUKE'S FATHER...or someone else....i dunno...i may be wrong
SashaUchiha
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Awesome chapter! good progress! 4/5 for me...
Suigetsu is really sweet sometimes
this chapter solidifies my theory about the scroll... Now I am surer that "Them" is the past hokage... the scroll is about the Dead Demon Seal... Now all we have to do is watch...
Suigetsu is really sweet sometimes
this chapter solidifies my theory about the scroll... Now I am surer that "Them" is the past hokage... the scroll is about the Dead Demon Seal... Now all we have to do is watch...
Sasuke and Oro as comrades? That's cool + They're going to the secret room of the Uchiha clan and read the whole Uchiha monument. Sasuke said that there's a thing that only is capable of doing and he wants to meet ''them'' so I have a feeling that Oro has found a way to free the souls from death reaper, which means that we might see Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen and Minato again.
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So Sasuke says "He wants to meet them..." who's 'them'?
I love the way how Sasuke's thinking independently
I love the way how Sasuke's thinking independently
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