Tobi's S/T tech is THE greatest technique ever witnessed in the manga

[Hipster Madara]

*Sigh* Tobi's S/T is not the best.



But plot is everything. Which means that Naruto countered it with speed. U_U

Even tobi asked "why didn't i phase through that?" :shrug:

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Lol, its good but its not the greatest

You'll find that it actually is.

 

[Οdin]

Even tobi asked "why didn't i phase through that?" :shrug:

I know. But that's not my fault... now is it? Tobi's S/T is obviously countered with speed - Minato proved that.

Conclusion: Tobi's S/T is not the best.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

I know. But that's not my fault... now is it? Tobi's S/T is obviously countered with speed - Minato proved that.

Conclusion: Tobi's S/T is not the best.

FTG needs seals. Tobi's does not. Did Minato not also say that Tobi's S/T ninjutsu surpassed both his and Tobirama's?

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Ok.

 

[Hipster Madara]

I know. But that's not my fault... now is it? Tobi's S/T is obviously countered with speed - Minato proved that.

Conclusion: Tobi's S/T is not the best.

It can not be countered with only speed, as far as i know.
Minato had to use his intelligence and speed to trick tobi.
That one move from Naruto was, again, plot for dramatic effect.

He had to trick tobi to beat him. FTG isn't better, the user is.

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[TouchMyMangos]

He had to trick tobi to beat him. FTG isn't better, the user is.

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[Bogard]

FTG is better cuz it's faster

 

[TouchMyMangos]

FTG is better cuz it's faster

FTG needs seals. Tobi's does not. Did Minato not also say that Tobi's S/T ninjutsu surpassed both his and Tobirama's?

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Ok.

 

[Οdin]

FTG needs seals. Tobi's does not. Did Minato not also say that Tobi's S/T ninjutsu surpassed both his and Tobirama's?

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It only surpassed his in the fact that he doesn't require seals. FTG is still faster than Tobi's. U_U

He had to trick tobi to beat him. FTG isn't better, the user is.

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[TouchMyMangos]

It only surpassed his in the fact that he doesn't require seals. FTG is still faster than Tobi's. U_U

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Minato himself admitted it was better, what is the problem? FTG is nowhere near as versatile as Tobi's tech. Reread the OP.

 

[Hipster Madara]

It only surpassed his in the fact that he doesn't require seals. FTG is still faster than Tobi's. U_U

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Exacty.
Minato, again, had to trick Tobi. AKA, putting the mark on him.

How can you say FTG > Tobi's S/T?
Even if hypothetically FTG is faster than Tobi's S/T, Tobi's S/T is still more convenient on a battle arena where you have not been. Having to carry around kunai and putting them everywhere you have to teleport is much less convenient. In addition, you can not trap enemies in pocket dimensions for later.

Conclusion: Tobi's S/T > Minato's FTG

 

[Οdin]

Minato himself admitted it was better, what is the problem?

I guess your fangsams don't let you think clearly. :sy:

Minato's Flying Thunder God is faster than Tobi's S/T. Ok. The only reason Tobi's surpasses Minato's is because he doesn't require seals. Do you understand that?

 

[arv993]

its one of the most haxxed jutsus in the narutoverse that much is for sure

 

[TouchMyMangos]

I guess your fangsams don't let you think clearly. :sy:

Minato's Flying Thunder God is faster than Tobi's S/T. Ok. The only reason Tobi's surpasses Minato's is because he doesn't require seals. Do you understand that?

Who said it was faster? I never said so :| It is so blatently clear that Tobi's is better, as Minato has said himself. Can FTG lock people in another dimension, effectively sealing them away? No.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Wait tobi's s/t is one of the greatest but as we know every jutsu has a weakness.

Tobi's s/t is speed he had to materialise to warp away if someone was fast enough they could hit him just as he was about to warp.

Also for him to touch you he has materialize once again if you are fast enough you can hit him.

It's a great tech and is up there with the other greatest techs in the naruto series but remember everything has a weakness.

 

[Hipster Madara]

I guess your fangsams don't let you think clearly. :sy:

Minato's Flying Thunder God is faster than Tobi's S/T. Ok. The only reason Tobi's surpasses Minato's is because he doesn't require seals. Do you understand that?

Only? he can also trap people in his dimension at will.
not requiring seals is a huge feat.
Show me where FTG is faster than Tobi's S/T WITHOUT it being a trick that Minato used. Didn't think so.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Wait tobi's s/t is one of the greatest but as we know every jutsu has a weakness.

Tobi's s/t is speed he had to materialise to warp away if someone was fast enough they could hit him just as he was about to warp.

Also for him to touch you he has materialize once again if you are fast enough you can hit him.

It's a great tech and is up there with the other greatest techs in the naruto series but remember everything has a weakness.

Yet that applies to all jutsu (weaknesses). So Tobi's would still remain the best.

 

[Οdin]

Exacty.
Minato, again, had to trick Tobi. AKA, putting the mark on him.

How can you say FTG > Tobi's S/T?
Even if hypothetically FTG is faster than Tobi's S/T, Tobi's S/T is still more convenient on a battle arena where you have not been. Having to carry around kunai and putting them everywhere you have to teleport is much less convenient. In addition, you can not trap enemies in pocket dimensions for later.

Conclusion: Tobi's S/T > Minato's FTG

I know that Tobi's S/T is more convenient, but what I'm trying to get across is that the said technique is not the best. If Tobi's S/T was the best technique, then he should have never been hit after Minato placed his marking on Tobi. Tobi's S/T has its flaws. Even Naruto was able to hit Tobi. Tobi's S/T is countered with speed. He can't activate it unless he knows what's coming.

 

[Gooner4life]

It is definitely the best S/T tech maybe not overall, Kakashi said himself it was better than FTG on seeing it once. Like Itachi said every technique has a weakness and of course this is no exception but it is still pretty OP. That being said, the 2nd apparently had some OP S/T techniques so it will be interesting to see how his compared to Tobi's

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Yet that applies to all jutsu (weaknesses). So Tobi's would still remain the best.

Yes tobi's s/t is one of the best that goes without question but he is not unbeatable with it.