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Okay so the reason that Madara lived trough the release of Edo tensai was because he knew how to release the seal binding him to the user. It makes no sense how he knew how to do that. Since the 2nd Hokage invented Edo tensai, shouldn't he have known everything about it? When the first and second were resurrected why didn't the second use the release? It just doesn't make any sense and since we don't have a definitive timeline for that section then we don't know when Madara originally died, but it seems highly unlikely that he would know more than Tobirama. thoughts?
 

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Hmm, not sure. One thing I do know is that Madara, Orochimaru and the Second Hokage all have some kind of connection that Kishi is not telling us about. Also, Tobirama's background is shrouded in mystery... And the reason the Second Hokage didn't break out of it is because Orochimaru binded him properly and he had no control of himself, Kabuto kept Madara's personality and powers a litle to be controlled by himself, so that was the passage way that allowed him to escape.
 
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This thread has been made multiple times.

The 1st and 2nd didn't release themselves because Oro didn't give them free will the way Kabuto did Madara. Remember how he inserted those tags into the back of their heads?
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Don't try to think to hard on this... simple answer... Kishi trolled. U_U
 
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Okay so the reason that Madara lived trough the release of Edo tensai was because he knew how to release the seal binding him to the user. It makes no sense how he knew how to do that. Since the 2nd Hokage invented Edo tensai, shouldn't he have known everything about it? When the first and second were resurrected why didn't the second use the release? It just doesn't make any sense and since we don't have a definitive timeline for that section then we don't know when Madara originally died, but it seems highly unlikely that he would know more than Tobirama. thoughts?

I already made this thread douchebag
 

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This thread has been made multiple times.

The 1st and 2nd didn't release themselves because Oro didn't give them free will the way Kabuto did Madara. Remember how he inserted those tags into the back of their heads?

This is like the fourth thread in a row you've responded before me with the exact answer I was going to use.
 

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Orochimaru was fully controlling the Senju brothers, that explains why they were unable to release themselves from the jutsu. I'm sure the manga will explain how Madara knows how to escape Edo Tensei.
 

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Noooo kishi didnt troll.....Oro was FULLY controlling them...that's why 3rd beat him in the first place
 
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This is like the fourth thread in a row you've responded before me with the exact answer I was going to use.

Great minds think alike. Props to you for using your head.
 

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Okay so the reason that Madara lived trough the release of Edo tensai was because he knew how to release the seal binding him to the user. It makes no sense how he knew how to do that. Since the 2nd Hokage invented Edo tensai, shouldn't he have known everything about it? When the first and second were resurrected why didn't the second use the release? It just doesn't make any sense and since we don't have a definitive timeline for that section then we don't know when Madara originally died, but it seems highly unlikely that he would know more than Tobirama. thoughts?

The second made the justu but we were introduced to it after orochimaru expanded on it then the next time we saw the justu it was expanded on once more by kabuto madara is from that time as well so there is no reason for him not to know about it.Second madara knowing how to get out of it does not mean he knew more then the second madara had a part in making the village so they obviously had to talk to each other.As the hokage plus with the wide negative reaction of every other shinobi he labled it a kinjustu
 

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idiot orochimaru dint give them free will
-madara fought senju ALL the time
-even WORKED WITH THEM for some time
-left and PREPARED to attack the village

that how he came up with a release,
and just because you make a jutsu doesnt mean you make a release, the 2nds edo tense was nothing compared to kabuto's or orochimaru's
 
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Okay people keep saying that Oro completly restrained them, but if you read the manga properly, you easily realize that Orochimaru wasn't controlling them right off the bat

Here they already are conscious and have free will
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Yet they only get controlled after
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It took Madara a split second to break the control, they could have done it instead of whining
 
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Well lets see, madara died just before giving his awakened rinnegan eyes to nagato. Nagato was young and there was a second shinboi world war at the time. Konoha was governed by the third hokage during the war. To put it simply, madara died when hiruzen was hokage. This means madara was alive when tobirama was hokage. So its likely that madara knew about tobirama's jutsu.
 

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This thread has been made multiple times.

The 1st and 2nd didn't release themselves because Oro didn't give them free will the way Kabuto did Madara. Remember how he inserted those tags into the back of their heads?
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They had free will before Orochimaru inserted those tags. U_U
 

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The first and second hokages did not release themselves because neither had any control over themselves whatsoever at any point in time.

When Itachi ended edo tensei, there was a brief moment where every edo was free, they were not bound by Kabuto, this is the moment Madara was able to perform the seals. Look at what Dan did, no way, if he was being controlled, would he have been able to jump over to Tsunade, and also look at what Chiyo says.

The fact that Madara knew the seals is what I would question, since when in the timeline would he have been able to gather this knowledge, note that not even Tobi was aware of the seals.

However, we were given an indication that Madara knew about edo tensei when he was told about it and he said: "edo tensei was originally intended to be used to wipe the map clean" (something like that)
This is the only indication that he knew about edo tensei, but the fact that he knew the seals was simply to prolong his stay in the manga.
 

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They had free will before Orochimaru inserted those tags. U_U

i don't even think they fought yet b4 he put the tags on they were talking , like i said just because you make jutsu doesn't mean you make the release, Itachi knew it......madara could have seen the 2nd experimenting and copied it with his sharingan
 

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The first and second hokages did not release themselves because neither had any control over themselves whatsoever at any point in time.

When Itachi ended edo tensei, there was a brief moment where every edo was free, they were not bound by Kabuto, this is the moment Madara was able to perform the seals. Look at what Dan did, no way, if he was being controlled, would he have been able to jump over to Tsunade, and also look at what Chiyo says.

The fact that Madara knew the seals is what I would question, since when in the timeline would he have been able to gather this knowledge, note that not even Tobi was aware of the seals.

However, we were given an indication that Madara knew about edo tensei when he was told about it and he said: "edo tensei was originally intended to be used to wipe the map clean" (something like that)
This is the only indication that he knew about edo tensei, but the fact that he knew the seals was simply to prolong his stay in the manga.
Read mypost or reread the manga, both brother were free for a moment
 

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i don't even think they fought yet b4 he put the tags on they were talking , like i said just because you make jutsu doesn't mean you make the release, Itachi knew it......madara could have seen the 2nd experimenting and copied it with his sharingan

Itachi didn't know anything about Edo Tensei. And the rest sounds far-fetched - Kishi just came up with something to keep Madara alive.
 

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Damn.
iShodaime's avatar makes Son of Odin's avatar look so gay. Lmfao!!! xd
 
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