Am I right in thinking EMS Sasuke would beat Itachi 9 times out of 10?

[Styles]

So now sasuke has infinite chakra and stamina
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

i think he is talking about itachi with infinite chakra

 

[Helikido]

so your saying sasuke armoured susanno is not strong enough to not get peirce threw is that what your saying.

Its not when you have the force of a v3 susanoo behind such a sword. Common sense dictates such a thing.

 

[~MC117~]

Itachi would beat EMS sasuke but I might change my opinion when I see sasuke use his EMS more etc

 

[teetooktier]

So now sasuke has infinite chakra and stamina
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

That is not what I was saying. I will spell out my point more clearly to avoid further miscommunication.

1. The link I posted demonstrates that neither Edo Itachi nor EMS Sasuke are at all tired.
2. Both used Susano'o for basically the same amount of time while fighting Kabuto.
3. Therefore, for short periods of time, EMS Sasuke can use Susano'o with so little strain that there is no VISIBLE difference between him, and Itachi with unlimited chakra and stamina.
4. Review the link I posted. This should be the final confirmation.

I hope this clears things up. If it does, I'd be interested to hear your counter argument.

 

[Multiply]

The example you posted is MS Sasuke. I say that EMS uses less strain because EMS Sasuke has been spamming MS techs ever since he opened his eyes, without EVER showing ANY strain AT ALL. We really can't then say that the strain is the same. In fact, Sasuke got that tired after using Susano'o ribs, Skeleton Susano'o, and Amaterasu twice. By contrast, he has used full Susano, Amaterasu discs twice, and genjutsu, without showing any strain.

No just stop, you're implying when he got EMS he gets more stamina, just no.

 

[Stark]

Itachi saved Sasuke from Kabuto so many times.

Itachi > Sasuke until I see more maturity from Sasuke.

 

[teetooktier]

No just stop, you're implying when he got EMS he gets more stamina, just no.

I am not implying or saying that in any way shape or form. You misunderstood my posts. I am saying that EMS Sasuke can use Susano'o with less strain than Itachi. There is a difference between needing less chakra to use a technique, and having more chakra to meet higher chakra demands. I am talking about the former, not the latter.

 

[Paradox Ruler]

Its not when you have the force of a v3 susanoo behind such a sword. Common sense dictates such a thing.

yes and it will easily go threw an eternal mangekyou sharingan susanno.

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[Helikido]

That is not what I was saying. I will spell out my point more clearly to avoid further miscommunication.

1. The link I posted demonstrates that neither Edo Itachi nor EMS Sasuke are at all tired.
2. Both used Susano'o for basically the same amount of time while fighting Kabuto.
3. Therefore, for short periods of time, EMS Sasuke can use Susano'o with so little strain that there is no VISIBLE difference between him, and Itachi with unlimited chakra and stamina.
4. Review the link I posted. This should be the final confirmation.

I hope this clears things up. If it does, I'd be interested to hear your counter argument.

Actually your not quite right.

Edo have shown fatigue multiple of times.

 

[Multiply]

Itachi saved Sasuke from Kabuto so many times.

Itachi > Sasuke until I see more maturity from Sasuke.

This, but until i see Sasuke get more and better abilities/intelligence :shrug:

 

[Anorien16]

Danzo fight was with MS, please stop bringing up MS examples. EMS Sasuke is the one who can use Susano'o for extended periods of time.

I love how you pulled up numbers out of no where. Lemme summarize your post: Sasuke has never used Susano'o in EMS for long periods of time. This would be a valid point, except that EMS Sasuke has never demonstrated any strain AT ALL. Not even sweating, not even panting slightly. Here's another way to look at it: Sasuke and Edo Itachi both used Susano'o vs. Kabuto for basically the same amount of time. Here they are both, totally fine:

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For short periods of time, there is no difference between EMS Sasuke and infinite chakra and stamina Edo Itachi.

Pulled out the numbers out of nowhere? It was a estimate: Zetsu clones wont take 10 second but i considered 110 secons more for the interrogation.
Kabuto fight was all super fast business and they kept switching Susanoo on and off repeatedly, so it wont count much as a contious use. In Danzo fight since between Danzo using his first Izanagi eye and last Izanagi eye there was 10 minutes difference and nearly 40-35% of the time Sasuke was not in full Susanoo.

But the bold parts are my points. But i disagree that EMS didnt sasuke showed any strain: He was not pushed to his limit, Itachi was doing the majority of work. Also if MS does reduce the chakra requirement of Susanoo then the power boost in Sasuke's Susanoo wld counterbalance it.

Plus there is no proof that EMS techs require less chakra just a assumption.

 

[teetooktier]

Actually your not quite right.

Edo have shown fatigue multiple of times.

I am talking about EMS Sasuke never showing fatigue. However, as far as I am aware Edos cannot ever be fatigued, as they have unlimited chakra. If you could find any manga page where an edo was showing sweating, panting, etc, from either part one or two, I would agree. But I am confident that no such page exists.

 

[DeathGod545]

Compare him to edo Itachi. Remember, Itachi gave him ms/ems.

 

[Uchiha boii]

ems sasuke clearly beats itachi what part of ems = true power dnt yu people understand ems will decide it the drain from using ms techniques will slow itachi down and make this sasukes fight intelligence goes to itachi but sasuke isnt far off taijutsu and kennjutsu are sasukes as well as ninjutsu genjutsu is arguably equal now due to ems but for the fanobys itachi can have this category because sasukes sussano will last longer then itachis and it is stronger totska blade still has to hit 4 it 2 work an amatertsu blade is a one shot as well people just yu die instead of being sealed if sasuke has perfect sussano this is way overkill but with the sussano we have seen already he can still win with high difficulty hebi sasuke pushed sick ms itachi to his limit breaking a tsukiyomi ms sasuke who fought danzo is arguably = to a healthy itachi but itachi wins because of sacred items ems sasuke on the other hand is > any form of itachi besides edo

 

[Helikido]

Pulled out the numbers out of nowhere? It was a estimate: Zetsu clones wont take 10 second but i considered 110 secons more for the interrogation.
Kabuto fight was all super fast business and they kept switching Susanoo on and off repeatedly, so it wont count much as a contious use. In Danzo fight since between Danzo using his first Izanagi eye and last Izanagi eye there was 10 minutes difference and nearly 40-35% of the time Sasuke was not in full Susanoo.

But the bold parts are my points. But i disagree that EMS didnt sasuke showed any strain: He was not pushed to his limit, Itachi was doing the majority of work. Also if MS does reduce the chakra requirement of Susanoo then the power boost in Sasuke's Susanoo wld counterbalance it.

Plus there is no proof that EMS techs require less chakra just a assumption.

EMS grants the user eternal mongekyou along with the ability to better control their MS tech with much more effencie and less chakra consumption, hence why PF susanoo is possible. It allows the users to stabalizs their chakra. Sasuke never got a chakra boost. his ems is just more effecient now.

 

[Anorien16]

I am talking about EMS Sasuke never showing fatigue. However, as far as I am aware Edos cannot ever be fatigued, as they have unlimited chakra. If you could find any manga page where an edo was showing sweating, panting, etc, from either part one or two, I would agree. But I am confident that no such page exists.

Second Mizukage after using jouki boy,

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if u notice the SFX its same as 'Pant' 'Pant' and again at

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[Helikido]

Second Mizukage after using jouki boy.

this^

 

[Multiply]

I am talking about EMS Sasuke never showing fatigue. However, as far as I am aware Edos cannot ever be fatigued, as they have unlimited chakra. If you could find any manga page where an edo was showing sweating, panting, etc, from either part one or two, I would agree. But I am confident that no such page exists.

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Come again soon though

 

[teetooktier]

Pulled out the numbers out of nowhere? It was a estimate: Zetsu clones wont take 10 second but i considered 110 secons more for the interrogation.
Kabuto fight was all super fast business and they kept switching Susanoo on and off repeatedly, so it wont count much as a contious use. In Danzo fight since between Danzo using his first Izanagi eye and last Izanagi eye there was 10 minutes difference and nearly 40-35% of the time Sasuke was not in full Susanoo.

But the bold parts are my points. But i disagree that EMS didnt sasuke showed any strain: He was not pushed to his limit, Itachi was doing the majority of work. Also if MS does reduce the chakra requirement of Susanoo then the power boost in Sasuke's Susanoo wld counterbalance it.

Plus there is no proof that EMS techs require less chakra just a assumption.

I am aware that you were trying to make estimates. That is why you should not have been throwing out numbers; an appropriate estimate would have been, "a short amount of time'. We cannot be accurate even to the minute when reading manga fights, so exact number estimates will have ridiculous error margins. At worst, say something like 1-3 minutes.

You disagree that EMS Sasuke didn't show any strain; but MS Sasuke never needed to be pushed to the limit to show strain. Beside the point: EMS Sasuke has consistently used higher levels of Susano'o than MS Sasuke, and like I have stated repeatedly, has shown ZERO strain in doing so. He doesn't need to be as tired as he was vs. Mizukage; but he definitely would be slightly tired if this was still MS Sasuke.

You are right that I do not have 100% proof that EMS require less chakra. I do however have supporting logic. EMS Sasuke shows less strain than MS Sasuke while using MS techs. Therefore, either EMS Sasuke has more stamina, or the techs require less. I believe somebody else assumed I was saying the former, and I agree that that would be silly. So the latter seems logical.

 

[Uchiha boii]

Second Mizukage after using jouki boy,

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that is him using a technique that when alive would reduce his chakara to half or very weak as you see them commmenting but the thing is hes not itachi and itachi has shown absolutely zero fatigue