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Correct, next we move on to blocking.

Blocking is one of the more common defensive reactions, and is pretty simple. It involves using your own blade to bring your opponents to a complete stop, this generally involves maintaining blade contact.

A quick example: If you tried to strike me using a one handed vertical slash, I would raise my blade perpendicularly to yours-horizontally-stopping your blade against mine.

Simple :p
So questions, comments?
Hrmm same situation, what if as you block i slide the blade back and quick stab you?
 

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Hrmm same situation, what if as you block i slide the blade back and quick stab you?
Well since I made you the attacker in the last situation, that's more like a follow up :p

If you were the one defending, it could be a counter if you followed by arc stepping to the side (Avoiding the vertical slash, under the circumstances, momentum would probably lead to the attacker going off to the side after you break the sword lock) and proceeding with the stab.
 

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Well since I made you the attacker in the last situation, that's more like a follow up :p

If you were the one defending, it could be a counter if you followed by arc stepping to the side (Avoiding the vertical slash, under the circumstances, momentum would probably lead to the attacker going off to the side after you break the sword lock) and proceeding with the stab.
Hrmm okay :p

I have lots of things going on with moves i could do with block. Seems to me like block can lead to quick strikes after wards.
 

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Hrmm okay :p

I have lots of things going on with moves i could do with block. Seems to me like block can lead to quick strikes after wards.
In some circumstances, yes, though more often it's parries that lead to openings. One of the things I like to after successfully blocking is to deal a blow to the body with a free hand, or leg.
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Next is counter/counter attacking.

Alright, let's begin with countering after a parry: after a parry, your blade will be the one on the inside, putting you at a tactical advantage over your opponent. The reason for this is that since their blade is outside, they have to first get past your own blade to attack you - with your blade on the inside, you just have to land the hit.

Now, the strike you use will almost certainly be dependent upon how and where you parry and the position it leaves your blade - however, a stab/lunge is almost consistently a great choice as it gives forward movement (making it difficult to dodge by stepping back), has great speed (making it even more difficult to actually react to), and can easily be brought into a back-swing to counter the nearly inevitable attempt at attacking you the opponent will make.

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In some circumstances, yes, though more often it's parries that lead to openings. One of the things I like to after successfully blocking is to deal a blow to the body with a free hand, or leg.
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Next is counter/counter attacking.

Alright, let's begin with countering after a parry: after a parry, your blade will be the one on the inside, putting you at a tactical advantage over your opponent. The reason for this is that since their blade is outside, they have to first get past your own blade to attack you - with your blade on the inside, you just have to land the hit.

Now, the strike you use will almost certainly be dependent upon how and where you parry and the position it leaves your blade - however, a stab/lunge is almost consistently a great choice as it gives forward movement (making it difficult to dodge by stepping back), has great speed (making it even more difficult to actually react to), and can easily be brought into a back-swing to counter the nearly inevitable attempt at attacking you the opponent will make.

Any Questions?
nope, none at all, everything seems to make sense ! xd
 

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nope, none at all, everything seems to make sense ! xd
Sorry :shy:

I was lost on the path of life.

Now, as for counter-attacking from a block -with your blade locked with the opponents, you want to quickly disengage and attack; the key to this is to disengage in your favor.

However, a useful thing to do is consider how you blocked and how it can transition into a blow. An example is this - if I'm locked at cross with my opponent with my blade held horizontally above me, a great counter-attack is to push my opponents blade upward as I unfold my blade; this will cause their blade to go upward and to their left, not only putting their blade on the outside, but also putting the opponent off balance and putting them in a position that their strike wouldn't be able to do near as much damage.

Questions?
 

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Sorry :shy:

I was lost on the path of life.

Now, as for counter-attacking from a block -with your blade locked with the opponents, you want to quickly disengage and attack; the key to this is to disengage in your favor.

However, a useful thing to do is consider how you blocked and how it can transition into a blow. An example is this - if I'm locked at cross with my opponent with my blade held horizontally above me, a great counter-attack is to push my opponents blade upward as I unfold my blade; this will cause their blade to go upward and to their left, not only putting their blade on the outside, but also putting the opponent off balance and putting them in a position that their strike wouldn't be able to do near as much damage.

Questions?

So disengaging while parrying is best? I would assume so if it was possible.
 

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Alright I has understood!

Sorry for the really late reply.
Sorry for my lateness

Moving on.

Now, off course, you could also try a true counter-attack - that is, attack while the opponent's attacking. By choosing not to make a defensive move, you create a dilemma for the opponent: do they continue with their own attack at the cost of trading blows with you, or do they stop their own attack and try to counter yours?
 

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Sorry for my lateness

Moving on.

Now, off course, you could also try a true counter-attack - that is, attack while the opponent's attacking. By choosing not to make a defensive move, you create a dilemma for the opponent: do they continue with their own attack at the cost of trading blows with you, or do they stop their own attack and try to counter yours?
Though shouldn't I make sure that I can land that strike before he lands a strike on me? So that I wouldn't get hurt? Seems a bit risky
 

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Though shouldn't I make sure that I can land that strike before he lands a strike on me? So that I wouldn't get hurt? Seems a bit risky
Yes, in most cases that's what you want - However, you aren't always going to be in a favorable position in battle. So if you're confronted with a situation in which you cannot physically avoid, you can play a psychological game with your opponent. Strike at them as they strike at you (This usually works best if your attack would be superior in terms of how much damage it would deal).

When your opponent sees it, they will either have the choice of evading while cancelling their attack all together (Leaving them open for a follow up); Or they can continue on and take the damage, leaving neither of you un-scathed.

It's also a good maneuver to offer leeway in a fight o-o Sometimes it's fun taking a hit here and there :p
 

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Yes, in most cases that's what you want - However, you aren't always going to be in a favorable position in battle. So if you're confronted with a situation in which you cannot physically avoid, you can play a psychological game with your opponent. Strike at them as they strike at you (This usually works best if your attack would be superior in terms of how much damage it would deal).

When your opponent sees it, they will either have the choice of evading while cancelling their attack all together (Leaving them open for a follow up); Or they can continue on and take the damage, leaving neither of you un-scathed.

It's also a good maneuver to offer leeway in a fight o-o Sometimes it's fun taking a hit here and there :p
T__T painful way to have fun i say!!! lol... lets continue!
 

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T__T painful way to have fun i say!!! lol... lets continue!
Indeed. It's a useful, but brash tactic. The biggest thing to remember about sword fighting is that while it's nice to have first blood, it doesn't always determine the outcome of the battle. It's a rare thing to do, but maybe taking a hit in order to give one will be what you need to put you on top.

And we move on to Taijutsu Integration!

Now, perform a Two Handed Vertical Slash with me as your target, using a Bokuto.
 

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Indeed. It's a useful, but brash tactic. The biggest thing to remember about sword fighting is that while it's nice to have first blood, it doesn't always determine the outcome of the battle. It's a rare thing to do, but maybe taking a hit in order to give one will be what you need to put you on top.

And we move on to Taijutsu Integration!

Now, perform a Two Handed Vertical Slash with me as your target, using a Bokuto.
I appologize for the really really really late reply ~____~

With the instructions given, I set my sight on my target! Senpai! I take my Bokuto, grab it with both of my hands. I grip it firmly and i raise it above my head. Then quickly i slash downwards aimed directly at the middle portion of senpai's head with speed and power.
 

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I appologize for the really really really late reply ~____~

With the instructions given, I set my sight on my target! Senpai! I take my Bokuto, grab it with both of my hands. I grip it firmly and i raise it above my head. Then quickly i slash downwards aimed directly at the middle portion of senpai's head with speed and power.
Sorry about this U_U

As you come at me with your Bokuto raised, I quickly swing my own in an upward arc holding it with my right hand alone, while I also arc side step to my right. These motions allow me to push your blade off to my left, while I also move away from your blade. Being that I deflected it rather than Blocking it, your slash comes down besides me, missing me.

As I move off to my right and your slash misses my body, I quickly step in leading off of my left leg, and perform a powerful kick with my right leg. The blow lands on your ribcage from your left side, throwing you off to the opposite side. The kick is performed at just around the same time that your blade reaches above waist level.

Stuff like this gives Kenjutsu another dimension or flavor, in which you can add elements than in other cases would not be drawn upon. Only through your own personal experiences will you come to know what you prefer.

So, if there are no questions or comments, we can move on to Diagonals
 

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So.........

If i go....

While i notice i completely miss and notice that you have side stepped out of the way. A kick is coming towards my left side that I can not avoid. Thus I embrace it like a sadst that i have learned to be. Taking the pain and enduring it as the kick comes into my side. Though the force of it is great, I try to grab your leg however the force makes me slip through, though the friction that has caused and my tremendous concentration, I manage to get a tight grip on your ankle preventing me from leaving too far away from you. As this is happening I raise my bokuto and place it around your knee, pretending and letting you know that i would have cut your leg off instantanously. U_U

Is that valid????
 

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So.........

If i go....

While i notice i completely miss and notice that you have side stepped out of the way. A kick is coming towards my left side that I can not avoid. Thus I embrace it like a sadst that i have learned to be. Taking the pain and enduring it as the kick comes into my side. Though the force of it is great, I try to grab your leg however the force makes me slip through, though the friction that has caused and my tremendous concentration, I manage to get a tight grip on your ankle preventing me from leaving too far away from you. As this is happening I raise my bokuto and place it around your knee, pretending and letting you know that i would have cut your leg off instantanously. U_U

Is that valid????
Well, not really. First, you have to explicitly explain how you grab my leg after I kick you, as well as how you maintain your equilibrium, because ordinarily a kick like that would break your stance - If you used the tree climbing method to cement yourself to the ground and take on the full blunt force of my kick, that would be acceptable.

Afterwards, since you used two hands and since you'd still be performing an attack, you need to wait until you finish your initial attack because converting into a follow up - So after you slash, you can grab my leg and try to cut it off. It might be effective, but at the same time, I'd also be able to easily see it coming and make adjustments for another appropriate counter.

So to answer your question, it could be possible, as long as the above conditions are met I suppose
 

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Alright U_U

Noted!
Onto Diagonals:

Despite anything else you've seen in this training, diagonals will be the attack you'll use most with your sword, unless you really adopt a fencing fighting style. The reason for this is simple: we're human.

We don't move in perfectly straight lines, nor do we attack in them. They'll usually have some kind of angle to them; they won't ride perfectly on the x and y axises.

Diagonals are hybrids of both vertical and horizontal strikes, being offset from both axis. However, being, in a more practical sense, the only type of slash you'll ever make, they can block any slash as well, depending on the angle.

A nearly horizontal slash would be incredibly difficult to block with another horizontal slash, but a more vertical slash would have no problem.

That's the main premise of diagonals: angles. Depending on the angle of your blow and your opponents, you'll either block or trade blows.

While more of a technicality than something you'll see in the RP, it does raise important points.

Horizontals and Verticals stop each other by making pluses ( + ), while diagonals do so by making "X"'s. Like I said, the angle of the blows will always differ - we're human - but it address how strikes interact.

Questions? Comments?
 
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