Kishi rectoned like a pro

[Maunten]

(Part one) Hiruzen was said to be the most powerful shino, so I assumed he was stronger than the first and second, but I also thought that the fourth some how had more potential for power than all of them but was cut down before he reached prime.

Hiruzen defeat hashi and tobi who seemed kinda weak in that fight, despite the fact that the edo was meant to turn them into killing machines, this in turn made hiruzens feat seem less amazing.

Now we find out that hashi is actually really strong and therefor hiruzen should be really strong, edo tensei does not just make the kill the chosen target but their actions are also controlled by the master.


So retcon tells us that hiruzens attacks are on a ridiculous scale.

The control of edo's extend beyond just "see that guy? Kill him".

and MOOORE.

 

[AP2k]

Please....no....more hiru/hashi threads....please...

 

[Koibito]

Yep, power scaling went way up in shippuden

 

[ShishaMastah420]

? What? No.

Hiruzen fought Hashirama and Tobirama but they were fully controlled by Orochimaru...

He was known as a God of shinobi during his era..

Hiruzen was one of the most powerful shinobi in history. In fact, he was so powerful that he was admired as the God of Shinobi (忍の神, Shinobi no Kami) in his prime and was said to be the strongest Hokage that Konoha ever had. Even in his old age, he also said to be the strongest of all the five Kage at the time of his death.

I say during his era because if Hashirama or Tobirama was around during his era, his hype would probably be different and also if Minato was allowed to reach his prime, he might have been strong enough to kill Hiruzen's hype.

 

[mistype]

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[-Logic-]

Hiruzen is never STATED to be the strongest Hokage. It clearly says "was said". And what Kishi means by "was said" is rather "they assumed". If the databook/Kishi directly stated: "Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage" then I would believe him. Fodders like Iruka thought he was but he obviously didn't see Hashirama's prime.​

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[Maunten]

how did this turn into hiruzen/hashi....

knock it off

 

[Bogard]

Hiruzen is never STATED to be the strongest Hokage. It clearly says "was said". And what Kishi means by "was said" is rather "they assumed". If the databook/Kishi directly stated: "Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage" then I would believe him. Fodders like Iruka thought he was but he obviously didn't see Hashirama's prime.​

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That's why Hiruzen defeated both Hashirama and Nidaime in part1

 

[yuan of cruxis]

Hiruzen is strongest ever, to bad we couldnt see him use his powerful jutsus

 

[yuan of cruxis]

Hiruzen is never STATED to be the strongest Hokage. It clearly says "was said". And what Kishi means by "was said" is rather "they assumed". If the databook/Kishi directly stated: "Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage" then I would believe him. Fodders like Iruka thought he was but he obviously didn't see Hashirama's prime.​

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It does say it in the databook
And did Kishi make the real about fodders not speaking the truth? Or did you?
And if its true that non fodders cant be lying so that means by your logic that Itachi cant be beat by anyone.

 

[ItachiSan03]

:sy: here we go again....

 

[Maunten]

Hmm, something told me this might happen, well have fun all

 

[ShishaMastah420]

That's why Hiruzen defeated both Hashirama and Nidaime in part1

He faced Hashirama and Nidaime who were under Orochimaru's full control...

 

[Maunten]

He faced Hashirama and Nidaime who were under Orochimaru's full control...

If you can't beat em...

Scan please?