The One Who Knows Everything is Madara

[EmperorIssun]

Hi everyone, so I just want to throw some ideas out there cause Kishi's dialogue never makes any sense to me lol

Basically this is how I interpreted the last scene of the chapter:

• Juugo tells Sasuke Endo Madara is still around
• Sasuke has flashback of Shisui and Itachi and says so he's still here.
• Suigetsu hands Sasuke the scroll and he reads it and he says "this is it, the one who knows everything"
• Sasuke then says "ANYWAYS I must meet with Orochimaru" and he says he needs him to to do something
• Sasuke finally says, "I'm going to meet the one who knows everything"

So the key part of this scene is the person who knows everything. When I first read this chapter I thought he was referring to Orochimaru but I reread the chapter and I don't think Orochimaru is the person Sasuke is referring to. After Sasuke reads the scroll and says "This is it, the one who knows everything" he says anyways, meaning he's changing the subject. This means the person who knows everything and Orochimaru are two different subjects. If Orochimaru was the one who knows everything why did he not say "Orochimaru is the one who knows everything" Instead Sasuke is like "Yeah, anyways I'm gonna meet Orochimaru and get him to do something"

So now that we established that Orochimaru is not the one who knows everything, who could Sasuke possibly want to meet. What does he want to know? We have to analyse what motives Sasuke might have now. So Sasuke is going through a dilemma, an identity crisis. He is trying to reform his identity after finally getting some honesty from Itachi and finally understanding his brother. Sasuke mentions village, clan and shinobi because I think Sasuke is trying to figure out the actions of Itachi, The Uchiha Clan and The Leaf and why all that happened had to happen. Like what was it all for. Uchiha's decision to revolt against the Leaf, Danzo's order to massacre the Uchiha, Itachi's choice to protect the leaf despite his Uchiha heritage.

And who might he want to see to figure all this out? Uchiha Madara of course. Co founder of the Leaf, instigator of hatred between Uchiha and Leaf and the reason why Itachi had to sacrificed himself. Also Sasuke has a flash back of Shisui who says "Protect the Village and the Name of Uchiha" and Itachi who says ""Leaf for life biatch" and then immediately says "So Madara is still here." I believe Sasuke is trying to understand the conflict between the Uchiha and Senju and why Itachi chose the Leaf over Uchiha. Who else better to talk to then the guy who is a Uchiha and the creator of the Leaf. Madara knows everything about the struggle of the Uchiha and their relationship with the Senju.

Anyways I believe that the scroll has something to do with the theory that Eternal Mangekyo will lead to Rinnengan, and the connection to Sage of Six Path and Sasuke wants to find Orochimaru to help him gain it or defeat it, Iunno. What's important is SASUKE WANTS TO MEET UCHIHA MADARA

 

[EnvyMyApex]

Agreed, Kishi isn't that predictable... He likes to word things oddly in order to throw off the readers lol.

 

[Blast41]

I'm pretty sure Itachi doesn't say, "Leaf for life biatch" (ctfu) but you are correct with your assumption

 

[rollin]

i think its orochimaru

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[Eddyt7]

The One know everything is Sage Of six path

 

[EmperorIssun]

i think its orochimaru

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Seems more like Orochimaru can do a lot of things. He has the resources and the research. But what's important is what Sasuke wants to know. What has he been contemplating this whole chapter? What can Orochimaru tell Sasuke? Nothing.

 

[EmperorIssun]

The One know everything is Sage Of six path

Enough with that stupid sh*t. What does the Sage of Six Paths know about anything presently? He's been dead even before shinobis existed >.>

 

[Rhyme Asylum]

Hi everyone, so I just want to throw some ideas out there cause Kishi's dialogue never makes any sense to me lol

• Basically this is how I interpreted the last scene of the chapter:
• Juugo tells Sasuke Endo Madara is still around
• Sasuke has flashback of Shisui and Itachi and says so he's still here.
• Suigetsu hands Sasuke the scroll and he reads it and he says "this is it, the one who knows everything"
• Sasuke then says "ANYWAYS I must meet with Orochimaru" and he says he needs him to to do something
• Sasuke finally says, "I'm going to meet the one who knows everything"

So the key part of this scene is the person who knows everything. When I first read this chapter I thought he was referring to Orochimaru but I reread the chapter and I don't think Orochimaru is the person Sasuke is referring to. After Sasuke reads the scroll and says "This is it, the one who knows everything" he says anyways, meaning he's changing the subject. This means the person who knows everything and Orochimaru are two different subjects. If Orochimaru was the one who knows everything why did he not say "Orochimaru is the one who knows everything" Instead Sasuke is like "Yeah, anyways I'm gonna meet Orochimaru and get him to do something"

So now that we established that Orochimaru is not the one who knows everything, who could Sasuke possibly want to meet. What does he want to know? We have to analyse what motives Sasuke might have now. So Sasuke is going through a dilemma, an identity crisis. He is trying to reform his identity after finally getting some honesty from Itachi and finally understanding his brother. Sasuke mentions village, clan and shinobi because I think Sasuke is trying to figure out the actions of Itachi, The Uchiha Clan and The Leaf and why all that happened had to happen. Like what was it all for. Uchiha's decision to revolt against the Leaf, Danzo's order to massacre the Leaf, Itachi's choice to protect the leaf despite his Uchiha heritage.

And who might he want to see to figure all this out? Uchiha Madara of course. Co founder of the Leaf, instigator of hatred between Uchiha and Leaf and the reason why Itachi had to sacrificed himself. Also Sasuke has a flash back of Shisui who says "Protect the Village and the Name of Uchiha" and Itachi who says ""Leaf for life biatch" and then immediately says "So Madara is still here." I believe Sasuke is trying to understand the conflict between the Uchiha and Senju and why Itachi chose the Leaf over Uchiha. Who else better to talk to then the guys who is Uchiha and creator of the Leaf. Madara knows everything about the struggle of the Uchiha and their relationship with the Senju.

Anyways I believe that the scroll has something to do with the theory that Eternal Mangekyo will lead to Rinnengan, and the connection to Sage of Six Path and Sasuke wants to find Orochimaru to help him gain it or defeat it, Iunno. What's important is SASUKE WANTS TO MEET UCHIHA MADARA

i think its orochimaru

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Both of your threads make alot of sence and are put well
But in my opinion im siding with Madara
Why else would sasukeention
Clan
Leaf
Only person who knows about those two the most is
Madara

 

[Legendary Broly]

yeah i think its madara - I just want to believe its Oro because i don't want Sasuke interupting Madara on his way to the tobi naruto fight -.-
I'm dying for that fight bro and a madara tobi confrontation, I'm not a sasuke hater but if he makes me wait longer , oh gosh .. :L

 

[bahram]

I think it's the frog sage (O gama sennin)

 

[glamo]

What if actually is Senju Hashirama? Maybe in that scroll there is a way to revive sealed people, like Madara's done to himself, and that's why Suigestu knew that Madara is still alive.

 

[VisionOfDisorder]

Thank you for knowing the meaning of the term "anyway" In fact Sasuke acctually cut Suigetsu off by saying that there is someone he needs to see (Orochimaru) .

After receiving Itachi's final blessings, The scroll is what tells Sasuke (directly or through inference on Sasuke's part) that there is a particular person that can give him the final answers that no one else in the Shinobi world could give him. I believe that this will result in Sasuke finalizing his emotional standing with Konoha, the Uchiha, and with anyone who was once his friend.

Of course, Madara seems to be the apparent answer to who the One Who Knows Everything is. He is the oldest character that we know of in play at this time and has strong connections with both Konoha and Uchiha. I DONT think Sasuke is referring to Madara, we have seen a glimpse of Sasuke's apparent attitde towards Madara's presence. The One Who Knows Everything was brought up afterwards as a seperate issue, In fact, since Suigetsu had already mentioned Madara to Sasuke by name, why would Sasuke bother being secretive or foreshadowing about him? It would seem anticlimactic to me.

Good post, cant wait for next wednesday +rep

 

[rollin]

Both of your threads make alot of sence and are put well
But in my opinion im siding with Madara
Why else would sasukeention
Clan
Leaf
Only person who knows about those two the most is
Madara

well technically orochimaru and madara would know because it's the secrets of madara's body that was orochimaru's hypothesis

 

[EmperorIssun]

well technically orochimaru and madara would know because it's the secrets of madara's body that was orochimaru's hypothesis

Where in this chapter was the secrets to Madara's body mentioned in this chapter?? The secrets of his body are that he awakened Rinnengan >.>

 

[Rhyme Asylum]

well technically orochimaru and madara would know because it's the secrets of madara's body that was orochimaru's hypothesis

Agreed
But
Oro has a hypotheses about his ,the body
While Madara actually knows about the whole leaf clan drama get me

 

[Shoun]

I think you should not take single words too seriously, becouse the manga translations from japanese to englisch are still not perfect (sometimes they are far away from that).
We have seen that some other translations often changed the meaning a lot.

 

[soccercasanova]

I'm pretty sure Itachi doesn't say, "Leaf for life biatch" (ctfu) but you are correct with your assumption

Pretty sure he said it :

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[SO7P]

Agree. I thought I was the only one who think that the man who knows everything is probably Madara. IMO Sasuke doesn't seem like referring the "man who knows everything" as Oro.

 

[Uchiha Madara.]

I dont know we will see what happeneds

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

I agree. I also think its Madara.

I wonder how much the Kyuubi knows about this crap.