Did Hashirama see the perfect/complete susanoo?

[uchia kid]

In chapter 592 Madara said "The complete susanoo, it is said that anyone who seen it dieds."

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So my question is did Hashirama see this complete susanoo???
Because if he did why then would Madara say anyone who has seen it dies? :shrug:

This is starting to make me beleave that in order to achive a perfect susanoo one must have a rinnegan.

My reason for saying that is because in chapter 560 Madara said that he awakened the eyes(the rinnegan) sortly before his death.

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So maybe after he activated the rinnegan he didn't have enough chakra to release it(the perfect/complete susanoo) in his fight with Hashirama.

Now here is what confuses me.

If you do need the rinnegan to have a perfect susanoo
-then why would Madara say "....anyone who seen it dies" as if he has used it before.

and If you do not need a rinnegan to have a perfect susanoo
-then why would he say "....anyone who seen it dies" when Hashirama defeted him?

Does this mean that Madara did not use the complete susanoo against Hashirama? which would be stupid.

What do you guys think?

 

[Οdin]

Hashirama fought Perfect Susano'o.

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[Ninpou]

Probably not. Which might mean you need the Rinnegan to use it.

 

[Hipster Madara]

I think he saw it.
naybe he kilked Hashirama later on... udk he us arrogant

 

[AP2k]

Why would he say "it is said anyone who sees it dies" this implies there was atleast one and perhaps multiple people who used it prior to him

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

the manga says things every week that provokes these kinda threads.....

 

[uchia kid]

Probably not. Which might mean you need the Rinnegan to use it.

exsactly what i was think.

 

[Jaded210]

i dont think perfect susano needs rinnegan.
by madara stating whoever has seen it dies, the first didnt fight it
maybe it wasnt perfected at that time but he did fight it

 

[Youngkhalifa]

Hashirama had to see perfect susanoo because when Madara activated it he mention hashirama was the only one that can stop him

 

[Yo pappy]

Hashirama fought Perfect Susano'o.

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I like how everyone just ignored this post. lol

 

[uchia kid]

Hashirama fought Perfect Susano'o.

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right... :sy: forgot about this chapter

 

[radize]

I like this questioN. I think hashi nOt seE the perfEct becAuse itz a logic WHY DID HE SAY ***K Like that? So arrogant And why he sad that oNly hashi can stop him why he lose? If soMEoNe seE the perfct susanOo DIED?, wow itz that a lie or what?

 

[Zayon Uchiha]

Hashirama had to see perfect susanoo because when Madara activated it he mention hashirama was the only one that can stop him

I agree

 

[Respect Uchiha Madara]

no but madara had it since onoki said why didn't he show him the powers he had before then madara says because you were only a child.

so he didn't use it on hashirama since madara killed everyone who saw it before the 5 kages fight.

 

[Imperius]

so if rikudo sennin sees the perfect susanoo he will die from staring at it?

 

[Perp]

no but madara had it since onoki said why didn't he show him the powers he had before then madara says because you were only a child.

so he didn't use it on hashirama since madara killed everyone who saw it before the 5 kages fight.

No. I doubt anyone had to luxury of holding back when facing Hashirama, even Madara. Despite what we've seen, the way he talks about his old nemesis points to all out assaults on each other when they met in battle. Madara would use whatever is in his arsenal, as Hashirama would do the same.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

No he did not:

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[Drakengard]

"They say..." implies that it's a legend. Madara was a figure of power at that time, so there were bound to be legends about him as well.

I could play with words and what-not but let's be realistic now

 

[Sage6paths]

the susanoo seems big enough to have a close combat with the Bijuu mode Naruto.

 

[Respect Uchiha Madara]

No. I doubt anyone had to luxury of holding back when facing Hashirama, even Madara. Despite what we've seen, the way he talks about his old nemesis points to all out assaults on each other when they met in battle. Madara would use whatever is in his arsenal, as Hashirama would do the same.

madara only fought hashirama to obtain dna that is it he didn't have to use perfect susanno but to trick hashirama that is it.